Re: Moss: Doctors prescribe chemo to make money

[Guest guest]

I can believe this. I have a couple of Ralph Moss books.

Why is everything SO incredibly expensive???? Even the rituxan treatments are

like $10,000 EACH infusion. Why on earth would some medication - a liquid

medication - cost $10,000?? And chemo is apparently more along the same lines.

As much as a car? There is something so disgustingly wrong with that!

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> Hard to believe, right? . . .

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> #449 : Free Weekly Newsletter by Ralph W. Moss, PhD. June 27, 2010

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> THE CHEMO CONCESSION PERSISTS

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> A recent study provides evidence that some oncologists prescribe

> chemotherapy based on their financial reward rather than the medical

> needs of their patients....

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> To read this week's newsletter, please click here:

> http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/525/2/lang, english/

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[Guest guest]

I am definitely not a fan of the cancer industry or of chemo drugs, however,

when you think of the price of a medicine you must consider what went into

creating that medicine. Behind each new medicine are years of research, of

salaries to scientists that have to be paid, of materials that have to be

paid for, etc. Of course there are also the salaries to all those drug reps

that run around to doctor's offices with pens, and pads, and other gifties

that the drug companies used to promote their drugs, and there are fancy

dinners, etc. that the drug companies pay for doctors in order to promote

their drugs. All of that is ridiculous to add to the expense of drugs. The

drug companies for the most part are unscrupulous and making too much money

off people's misery but you still need to keep in perspective what goes into

creating a drug when judging the cost of that drug. You cannot just look at

a bag of liquid that is to be infused into a patient and say " why should

that liquid be so expensive? "

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:01 PM, detwa_3017 <epurdles@...> wrote:

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> I can believe this. I have a couple of Ralph Moss books.

>

> Why is everything SO incredibly expensive???? Even the rituxan treatments

> are like $10,000 EACH infusion. Why on earth would some medication - a

> liquid medication - cost $10,000?? And chemo is apparently more along the

> same lines. As much as a car? There is something so disgustingly wrong with

> that!

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> > Hard to believe, right? . . .

> >

> > #449 : Free Weekly Newsletter by Ralph W. Moss, PhD. June 27, 2010

> >

> > THE CHEMO CONCESSION PERSISTS

> >

> > A recent study provides evidence that some oncologists prescribe

> > chemotherapy based on their financial reward rather than the medical

> > needs of their patients....

> >

> > To read this week's newsletter, please click here:

> > http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/525/2/lang, english/

> >

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[Guest guest]

I tried the natural route first, before the cancer metastized to my lungs and

bones. I then had no choice but to do chemo (taxotere) and targeted therapy

(Herceptin). Today, I have my life back, after 3 chemo's I was declared in

remission. After trying the hard way, I have come to realize that one should

keep their options open, and realize that sometimes there is a place for both -

western and natural. I thank Dr Dennis Slamon every single day. (He spent many

years of his life, making this drug a reality) See Living Proof with Harry

Connick Jnr. So, regardless of cost, I am grateful to be alive to raise my two

young children. The natural treatments were unable to do what chemo and a

monoclonal antibody were able to do. I do believe my diet did help tremendously

in the wonderful outcome I had.

Best wishes

Fern

[Guest guest]

Yes, I understand that the drugs are going to be expensive, but they are

excessively so, that's my point. Upwards of ten grand PER TREATMENT and moreso.

It's outrageous. There are scientists involved in making Advil and antibiotics

too but those don't cost 10-15 grand for one dosage. The cancer industry is out

of control with their prices, unlike any other. In my opinion, of course.

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> > > Hard to believe, right? . . .

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> > > #449 : Free Weekly Newsletter by Ralph W. Moss, PhD. June 27, 2010

> > >

> > > THE CHEMO CONCESSION PERSISTS

> > >

> > > A recent study provides evidence that some oncologists prescribe

> > > chemotherapy based on their financial reward rather than the medical

> > > needs of their patients....

> > >

> > > To read this week's newsletter, please click here:

> > > http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/525/2/lang, english/

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[Guest guest]

Remember though, insurance pays for most of that cost - which is probably one of

the reasons that the price is so inflated.

I get cranky when we pay $10,000 for alternative treatments out-of-pocket

because insurance doesn't pay for them. If I was using a medicine that cost

that much, I would be paying a lot less because of insurance.

ar

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> Yes, I understand that the drugs are going to be expensive, but they are

excessively so, that's my point. Upwards of ten grand PER TREATMENT and moreso.

It's outrageous. There are scientists involved in making Advil and antibiotics

too but those don't cost 10-15 grand for one dosage. The cancer industry is out

of control with their prices, unlike any other. In my opinion, of course.

[Guest guest]

This is why insurance is so expensive.

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> Yes, I understand that the drugs are going to be expensive, but they are

excessively so, that's my point. Upwards of ten grand PER TREATMENT and moreso.

It's outrageous. There are scientists involved in making Advil and antibiotics

too but those don't cost 10-15 grand for one dosage. The cancer industry is out

of control with their prices, unlike any other. In my opinion, of course.

[Guest guest]

It is an unbreakable cycle. Charge more for treatment because of Insurance

and charge more premiums because we need more profit. However, it doesn't

matter to insurers whether or not profit is realized, when they raise rates.

Rates are not necessarily related to claims paying. There are areas where a

cap has been put on Mal-practice claims and there has been no real reduction in

the premiums doctors pay. Insurers are in a world of their own but under no

circumstances can I let the thought go unanswered that the drug companies are

charging so much because of how much they lay out in research.

Anyone seriously following this list should, by now, have come to the

conclusion that the Cancer Industry borders on criminality along with

Pharmaceutical companies and their stooges in the FDA. Do not exempt Dr.

White Coat either because should you be getting good results, it will be a cold

day in hell before the White-Coat wants to know what you are doing to get those

good results. Many of White-Coat's prescribing is based upon incentives given

by drug companies. There are programs used by Drug Companies that can reveal

whether or not a doctor is prescribing their potions. If White-Coat isn't,

he'll be getting a call to remind him that the incentives are based upon his

cooperation but, of course, we don't know the actual wording used but the point

will be delivered.

I recall being invited to a Bladder Cancer support group and agreeing, and that

was the last I heard of it. When I asked how it was going, Dr. White-Coat

said, " fine " and that was the end of the conversation. He does not want me

anywhere near his gold mine...........his patient base.

Joe C.

From: robyn howell

Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Moss: Doctors prescribe chemo to make money

This is why insurance is so expensive.

>

> Yes, I understand that the drugs are going to be expensive, but they are

excessively so, that's my point. Upwards of ten grand PER TREATMENT and moreso.

It's outrageous. There are scientists involved in making Advil and antibiotics

too but those don't cost 10-15 grand for one dosage. The cancer industry is out

of control with their prices, unlike any other. In my opinion, of course.