Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Carol, If you had major surgery for uterine cancer three years ago without having had a thoracic CT, then your surgeons probably believed the lesions were confined to your abdomen. It is not considered stage 4 unless it has invaded bowel, abdomen, paraaortic, or inguinal lymph nodes or there is distant metastasis such as to the lungs. Was there any evidence of residual cancer before opting for IPT? What did the original biopsy or the surgical pathology report as to the type of cancer -- was it carcinoma or sarcoma? This would make a big difference with most treatment choices, and chemotherapy or IPT would be unlikely to significantly affect any remaining tumor. Most people who use IPT for advanced cancers are severely disappointed. Dr. Donato -, whose grandfather invented IPT, told me that only 25% of stage 3 cancers significantly benefit from IPT and ultimately 0% of stage 4 patients do. I am not a believer in intuition. This seems mostly used to determine the sincerity of the person who is advising you. I know my own intuition must not be worth crap as I find most actors on TV or the movies to be very believable. This can be quite humbling. On the other hand, my own intuition tells me that there is not a single IPT purveyor who factors in the mechanism by which chemically induced necrosis in tumors can trigger the induction of epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition (EMT) and concomitant release of vimentin. This adds an additional headache in trying to deal with quiescent stem cells, and with the multiple drug resistance (MDR) and the decreased cell-mediated immune responsiveness caused by the chemotherapy or IPT. EMT turns a page that you really, really do not want turned. Most alternative strategies do offer hope to stage 4 cancer patients, and even if the therapies are weak or problematic the hope itself has benefit. The absence of hope is an independent scythe. High-dose vitamin C has the advantage of almost always being safe to use, but it has one of the same disadvantages as chemotherapy in that it will only kill those cells it can kill and allow unscathed cells free rein to grow. It is not at all uncommon to feel great when cancer is growing very slowly. This almost feels like treachery. Cancer itself is treachery, but there is no greater treachery than our plutocratic government allowing corporate dumping of toxic chemicals into every aspect of our environment and then telling us (mostly a population of ditzy, mind-controlled servitors) that all is well. Rather then limit yourself to finding more fad therapies to add to your protocol it might be time to revisit your whole program and question all of your assumptions. As the cancer seems to be growing slowly you can afford to take pains and analyze your situation in depth. This is a lot more work than relying on the uncalibrated intuition but the effort is never regretted. At 07:33 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote: > >Hello, >I have been cancer free from uterine stage 4 for 3 years. I had a >major operation March 30, 3 years ago,followed by only 9 IPT's and >it was wiped out. However, no one ever CT'd my lungs at that time. > >However, in the last half a year some small mm nodules have appeared >peripherally in the top portion of my ab CT, so they Ct'd the whole >lungs areas and found several small nodules (mm in size). > >They are too small to biopsy, and besides all this I am feeling just Great! > >I seem to be living a " model " life with great diet, supplements and >all, but something needs to be attacked here. > >I tried more IPT, but that only kept them at bay and didn't seem to >work. Did other tests to see if it was fungal, but so far haven't >discovered what it is exactly. > >And the mystery is that I feel fine and great! > >It is unclear whether these spots are related to a metastasis or >some other situation. > >I have done 4 1/2 months of high dose Vit. C weekly, which, if it >were cancer related, I would have imagined would have had an effect. > >I just tested and found all the spots have grown about 2 mm so it is >slow growing, but I need a new plan. > >I am considering alkaline/ionized water, ozonated water, possible UV >bloodwork to add on to my existing program. I have also upped my >exercise program to walking/mild intermittent jogging/tai chi breaks >in the early am before breakfast. > >I also recently bought the amethyst biomat (far infrared) which,if >anyone is intersted, by the way, I can tell you the best place I >have found to get it...but right now I want to focus on my story. > >I am usually a bit shy to " expose " myself like this online to a >group, but there seems to be some very interesting people here, so >if anyone can gently tell me any constructive ideas, I am open to hearing them. > >I am trusting that my intuition will pick up any of the right answers. > >Thank you in advance for any and all quality help/suggestions. > >(By the way, all the people who know me simply cannot believe this >new situation....I appear to be very healthy and doing all the right >things, but I guess there is now more to learn, and then for me to >implement and keep sharing back with others in need, passing the >torch onwards, as I always like to do). > >In gratitude, >Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hi , Thanks for taking the time to write. First, it was stage 4 because it was outside the uterine area. It was a massive operation, and they also took off the flap over the stomach (can't remember the name right now)....5 hour operation, 13 days in the hospital. The IPT was for killing the microscopic amount of cancer still left like a carpet everywhere. It worked. I think I have much more confidence in IPT than you do, and also from my experience with the doctor you are mentioning, he often changes his story from moment to moment. I have personal contact with some of the other longtime IPT doctors that I resonate with and who give me much more help. I have also seen IPT help many people as when they choose chemo but this safe way of getting it. I don't want to argue about IPT...I used it when I thought it was necessary and have seen it help many people. Of course I hate traditional approaches and traditional chemo to me is horrific. But sometimes one has to keep an open mind and when choosing to use chemo, IPT is the safest way to go from my experience. It was my compromise at the time. And it seemed to work. All my other areas remain cancer free 3 years later. Also my CA 125 is great. Right now I am looking for alternatives and ideas because it is not clear if this is metastasis or something else and so far the approaches I have tried are not working. In this very moment I am open of course to other things. If you have any suggestions, that is great. Have you worked with uterine cancer mets to the lung? How have you handled it? That would be very helpful. When I say " intuition " it means that I have to hear details about different ideas, and I trust it will " hit " me as right in my gut. It will draw me in....I am an energyworker, so this is my guide. I do not go only by that. Using medicine and science combined is what I am learned to integrate. Thanks for any suggestions. Do you think UV bloodwork is valuable? Alkaline/ionized water? Ozonated water? Any other ideas? If you feel to share any thoughts that come to you, I thank you in advance. Sometimes it takes a lot of words for people to communicate...especially by emails, as by voice you can sometimes catch the meaning of people more deeply. For example, I do not just blindly go by " intuition " , but I have seen in myself and other cancer patients that the right approaches will also resonate in a pull that they cannot deny. That is only my experience. Some people are visual, scientific only, etc. Thanks again. Carol PS...Saying that they didn't CT the lungs because they didn't think there was involvement there, is a good thought. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 PS So much to write! I forgot to answer your question: carcinoma Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 > I am not a believer in intuition. This seems mostly used to > determine the sincerity of the person who is advising you. I know my > own intuition must not be worth crap as I find most actors on TV or the movies to be very believable. This can be quite humbling. , this statement will forever be etched in my mind as a Classic Comment. I did want to comment on using your intuition. Sure, it's not scientific, but I believe in using it, too. For instance, I have a strong intuitive feeling that I should stay far away from Tamoxifen and chemo. This knowledge has nothing to do with facts and numbers, but a deep feeling inside. Ever since I was a child, I would never, ever eat fish or shellfish. As an adult, I discovered that I am actually severely allergic to both. My 'intuition' protected me, I believe. My intuition also led me to a vegetarian raw food lifestyle, etc. Anyway, I have found that if something is what my body will need, the item will sound pleasing to my ear. Weird, eh? It will sound inviting and will jump out at me. Craziness. ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Thank you, Ar!!! Actually, I have also studied with a " medical intuitive " woman for 3 1/2 years. She used to work for an allergy testing doctor and would " guess " correctly the results of the tests done on the patients before the results came back. They used to play this game a lot and finally she has branched out on her own. She can " read " food allergies and imbalances in people...over the phone and in person. She also teaches people how to " tune in " to what their inner wisdom of the body is trying to tell and guide us to. She has been an Invaluable Coach to me in many ways. When I was first diagnosed 3 years ago, many many approaches were presented to me. Usually I have a hard time deciding things, but suddenly my intuition was in high gear. I " knew " which approaches didn't feel right and which I were attracting me, and I think I chose wisely. Now I have to re-evaluate this new " glitch " and so I am inviting the same kind of help and trust I will " sense " and attune to what is right....but I also have to keep open to scientific testings and information and ways to keep me in balance. So combining the scientific, medical and the intuitive, for those of us who feel to, can be very very useful. Thanks for your Lovely Post!!! I appreciate your energy and caring thoughts. Carol > > I am not a believer in intuition. This seems mostly used to > > determine the sincerity of the person who is advising you. I know my own intuition must not be worth crap as I find most actors on TV or the movies to be very believable. This can be quite humbling. > , this statement will forever be etched in my mind as a Classic Comment. I did want to comment on using your intuition. Sure, it's not scientific, but I believe in using it, too. For instance, I have a strong intuitive feeling that I should stay far away from Tamoxifen and chemo. This knowledge has nothing to do with facts and numbers, but a deep feeling inside. Ever since I was a child, I would never, ever eat fish or shellfish. As an adult, I discovered that I am actually severely allergic to both. My 'intuition' protected me, I believe. My intuition also led me to a vegetarian raw food lifestyle, etc. Anyway, I have found that if something is what my body will need, the item will sound pleasing to my ear. Weird, eh? It will sound inviting and will jump out at me. Craziness. ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hi Carol, I think your intuition has done a pretty good job for you so far. Just keep trusting in it and understanding that the body changes and so does its needs. I've found I'm an okay medical intuitive with animals. I would like to know more about this woman who has coached you over the phone. You can respond through private email. I've not done well with Reiki, by the way. For whatever reason, it totally turns me off. Talk to you later. ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hi Ar, Thanks for your note. One of the most challenging things for me is, indeed, to learn how the body may be changing and how to change things accordingly. I just love to stay on a routine that has worked before, and it is challenging to explore new things. I am regrouping quickly, as my nature is very optimistic and enthusiastic. I am hoping that I am finding new ways/things to implement that are going to be enjoyable and helpful. And then in return, to keep sharing these improvements with others to help them as well. About the Reiki, you see right here how intuition plays such a great role. It has been a great love of mine for 20 years! And I totally respect and honor that it is not the path for everyone to feel that way! Although on an aside note, I was very lucky to learn it in the original tradition, and have my own background in growth and meditation, so when I do it/share it, people often " feel " atuned to it in a way they never had before. Many people are doing shortened/abreviated forms of it. That could be the reason many are not " feeling " it. However, from my many years of experience with it, I also do know for sure that it definitely may not be for everyone, and it is a joy actually to respect others and know that each person has their own path to follow!! So I can sort of intuit whether to say more or share more with people according to their interest or not. I will write you more personally, and thank you for your support. Carol > > Hi Carol, > > I think your intuition has done a pretty good job for you so far. Just keep trusting in it and understanding that the body changes and so does its needs. > > I've found I'm an okay medical intuitive with animals. > > I would like to know more about this woman who has coached you over the phone. You can respond through private email. > > I've not done well with Reiki, by the way. For whatever reason, it totally turns me off. > > Talk to you later. > > ar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 At 11:04 AM 7/18/2010, Carol asks: >Do you think UV bloodwork is valuable? It is probably useful in some situations. I have never seen any real studies that would indicate those situations for which it has value and those where it would fall on its face. >Alkaline/ionized water? Mostly nonsense. This is normally made from tap water. When the chlorides and carbonates are removed it does have a few residual cations that will bring up the pH, but the absolute number is still very low and too low to have a significant physiological effect. Sometimes the oxidation reduction potential (ORP) can be driven down very low using a related method and I have seen occasional benefit but too many failures. I can't predict when it will be useful. The method requires forceful pumping of various brines through the system, very expensive custom-manufactured platinum plates, and a back flushing routine with HCl. >Ozonated water? I can't imagine this doing anything beyond making you belch oxygen. It is too much of a stretch to think it could survive the warm acidic environment of your stomach, then make its way through the screening function of stomach lining which has not evolved to transmit gasses, especially reactive gasses. If one percent made it though, and then, if one percent of your lungs are tumorous, then only one part in 10,000 would reach a tumor. From there it would have to pass through the acidic milieu of the tumor and drift upstream against tumorous tissue's pressure gradient and make it through the cancer's lipid membrane. Of course ozone machine marketers will trot out the dated writings of Warburg imputing that he would have loved ozone. They will tell you how ozone therapy is accepted in other parts of the world, curse the US pharmaceutical manufactures for their participation in a global conspiracy, and then tell you how each ozone molecule is like a little woodpecker puncturing holes into cancer cells. >Any other ideas? Only ideas that could pass rational scrutiny even if not fully tested. I am sure that there are beneficial remedies that may seem fanciful to me at this time, but life is too short and too precious to gamble on treatment confirmation by pendulum, muscle testing, intuition, or other wishful or metaphysical methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hello , It was good of you to take the time to reply. I hear how you view things. I think we may mostly be on very different paths/viewpoints of healing. My experience with live blood cell microscopy people is that if you change the " terrain " you change the blood and the results in the body. The expert I have had contact with actually has measured blood changes from either ozonated water as well as alkaline/ionized/oxygenated water. I understand you do not view this as valuable, but I cannot discount these ideas as you are. Thanks, however, for sharing your view. I would value any constructive ideas that come to you other than the ones I have mentioned which you have discounted. Do you have any Positive, Constructive ideas to add? That would be of value. Knocking the pharmaceutical companies and standard treatments, which we all already are in agreement on, is not helpful for me. Equally, knocking other methods that have been proven helpful by Alternative therapists I have been in contact with (besides the live blood cell, others as well), is not helpful. If it is not your experience, that is a valuable thing to hear. With your vast expertise, I would be interested in any other constructive suggestions that come to mind that I might look into. I might add as well, that when one is facing these decisions it can be a very sensitive time. That is why I was requesting responses, but in a bit of a gentle way so as to feel welcome and comfortable asking and discussing. Thanks. Carol > > At 11:04 AM 7/18/2010, Carol asks: > > >Do you think UV bloodwork is valuable? > > It is probably useful in some situations. I have never seen any real > studies that would indicate those situations for which it has value > and those where it would fall on its face. > > >Alkaline/ionized water? > > Mostly nonsense. This is normally made from tap water. When the > chlorides and carbonates are removed it does have a few residual > cations that will bring up the pH, but the absolute number is still > very low and too low to have a significant physiological > effect. Sometimes the oxidation reduction potential (ORP) can be > driven down very low using a related method and I have seen > occasional benefit but too many failures. I can't predict when it > will be useful. The method requires forceful pumping of various > brines through the system, very expensive custom-manufactured > platinum plates, and a back flushing routine with HCl. > > >Ozonated water? > > I can't imagine this doing anything beyond making you belch > oxygen. It is too much of a stretch to think it could survive the > warm acidic environment of your stomach, then make its way through > the screening function of stomach lining which has not evolved to > transmit gasses, especially reactive gasses. If one percent made it > though, and then, if one percent of your lungs are tumorous, then > only one part in 10,000 would reach a tumor. From there it would > have to pass through the acidic milieu of the tumor and drift > upstream against tumorous tissue's pressure gradient and make it > through the cancer's lipid membrane. > > Of course ozone machine marketers will trot out the dated writings of > Warburg imputing that he would have loved ozone. They will tell you > how ozone therapy is accepted in other parts of the world, curse the > US pharmaceutical manufactures for their participation in a global > conspiracy, and then tell you how each ozone molecule is like a > little woodpecker puncturing holes into cancer cells. > > > >Any other ideas? > > Only ideas that could pass rational scrutiny even if not fully > tested. I am sure that there are beneficial remedies that may seem > fanciful to me at this time, but life is too short and too precious > to gamble on treatment confirmation by pendulum, muscle testing, > intuition, or other wishful or metaphysical methods. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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