Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Darren, In the recent thread titled, " Questions for IPT practitioners, cancer researchers, etc. " , Darren wrote: << I know that many use DMSO either transdermally or orally to potentiate other agents, much like IPT. The big difference is that DMSO can be purchased at most feed stores for about $6-8 per quart. I'm not sure if that was what you were looking for, but I thought I'd throw that out there. >> Thank you for posting this, Darren. I have heard the concern raised that DMSO may not be selective enough towards cancer cells, and that it could potentiate the chemotherapy drugs into healthy normal cells as well as into cancer cells. Does anyone have any information on the efficacy and safety of DMSO Potentiation Therapy (DPT), especially from experienced practitioners? Here are a couple links on this subject which I had in my files: Combining DMSO Potentiation Therapy (DPT) and Insulin Potentiation Therapy (IPT) _http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DPTPlus.html_ (http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/DPTPlus.html) DMSO Potentiation Therapy _http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/DMSO.html_ (http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/DMSO.html) Thanks much! Glen from Illinois, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Sounds to me like people thinking DMSO to potentiate a treatment form need to be working with someone that knows what works and what doesn't and not most list members that have little experience other than reading other people's work. When talking IPT one is talking Alternative treatments and even performing the task requires an expertise few would have. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Most studies have demonstrated that dmso protects the good cells from chemotherapy. Granted these are animal and cell line studies,...but some carefully chronicled case histories have shown that dmso prevents bone marrow loss, secondary cancers, anemia, etc. right in line with the other studies. In fact other substances offer the same protectiveness, chlorophyllin. Strong antioxidant therapies. High dose coq10 High dose ascorbates, (once thought to hinder chemotherapy.) Xanthenes (found in mangosteen) All of these have shown to potentiate chemotherapy, immune therapy to varying degrees, But, not one of these potentiates to the degree that dmso is capable of. Sulfer allergies beware with dmso!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Joe, DMSO was a fad about 15-20 years ago at the Mexican clinics. I wasn't in favorite of it because I did not see any acceleration in favorable responses, and because it made the whole clinic smell like DMSO. In 1991 I was medical director of the Manner Clinic in Tijuana. Every once in a while it pops up again, usually with someone marketing it with hydrogen peroxide or silver or whatever. I am not a big fan because it can quench a Fenton reaction or a Haber-Weiss rxn, so it can put you at cross purposes when a patient is using wormwood/artemesia or, say, copper diisopropylsalicylate or Ferrlecit. BTW, ammonium tetrathiomolybdate can kick up artemether, etc., because it suppresses ceruloplasmin, that is, you can quench a quencher. DMSO is quite safe, but it is not a miracle drug. At 02:03 PM 8/5/2009, you wrote: > >Sounds to me like people thinking DMSO to potentiate a treatment >form need to be working with someone that knows what works and what >doesn't and not most list members that have little experience other >than reading other people's work. When talking IPT one is talking >Alternative treatments and even performing the task requires an >expertise few would have. > >Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 , << DMSO was a fad about 15-20 years ago at the Mexican clinics. I wasn't in favorite of it because I did not see any acceleration in favorable responses, and because it made the whole clinic smell like DMSO. >> << DMSO is quite safe, but it is not a miracle drug. >> Have you actually specifically seen DMSO combined with IPT (Insulin Potentiation Therapy) and/or other chemotherapy? If so, did both of your above statements apply? Thanks, Glen from Illinois, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Glen, IPT is a mediocre therapy. Many of the chemos used rely on free radical reactions that are quenched by DMSO. I do like DMSO with hyperthermia though. There is real science behind it. Over the past week I have tried to be more active on the list, but I am horrified by all overwhelmingly bad information and speculations re alternative cancer treatment. I don't argue or explain every little point because those who post are allies in the war against harmful, expensive, and otherwise wrongheaded conventional meds. I really don't want to wound their pride by shooting down much of what they say. I want to see more people enthusiastic about natural methods of health reclamation. Today someone posted an unpublished, non-peer reviewed " study " of 10 AIDS patients in a small African hospital. The study was designed to help market sutherlandia with oleander. The control consisted of 10 patients who took a potion that included unspecified vitamins. The study was orchestrated by the marketer who developed the formulation. There was no assessing of viral load, only a CD4 count and two liver enzymes, and these were measured a total of three times over a total of two months. There was no testing of the herbal mix alongside the scores and scores of competing products in this lucrative market. How does it stack up against such simple macrophage activators like the very inexpensive beta glucans? I don't doubt that the product has some activity against HIV and probably cancer too. It is hard to find things that don't have some definable activity against AIDS and cancer. When AIDS first started to appear almost 30 years ago most patients were dead within a year or two. Now, thanks to a wide variety of options available through AIDS buyers' club most everyone lasts 15 years up to a normal life span. There are perhaps a dozen supplements or strategies that routinely appear on this list that have an almost religious following. Most have benefit, sometimes great benefit, but not so much you throw out the rest of your meds and stop your research. BTW, a day or two ago you asked about using a glutathione derivative to reduce glutathione and induce apoptosis. The abstracts may sound wonderful and the researcher might get another grant, but keep in mind that foreign substances -- be they chemos or natural -- can stimulate a superfluity of glutathione some three orders of magnitude -- that is 1,000 fold. Any biochemical process that the body has to tightly control (such as apoptosis) has very reactive cell signalling to foster regulation or to trigger back-up pathways. It is more useful to study those things that are already well understood to produce the desired effects in the real world, e.g., BSO or sanguinarine. At 07:04 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: > >, > ><< DMSO was a fad about 15-20 years ago at the Mexican clinics. I wasn't >in favorite of it because I did not see any acceleration in favorable >responses, and because it made the whole clinic smell like DMSO. >> > ><< DMSO is quite safe, but it is not a miracle drug. >> > >Have you actually specifically seen DMSO combined with IPT (Insulin >Potentiation Therapy) and/or other chemotherapy? > >If so, did both of your above statements apply? > >Thanks, >Glen from Illinois, USA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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