HCl

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the update !

I must say I really am not surprised.

I have found very little of Nature's Sunshine's products

are usable on Bee's plan with what they add to their products.

Their chlorophyll although good is VERY spendy, as a matter

of fact, their products all seem to be overpriced.

Happy healthy healing! :-)

Debra NW

" O " <mike225@...> wrote:

Well you have Natures Sunshine.. " Protien Digestive Aid " on your

list....but I can tell you that this does contain lactose ...because I

have a bottle in fron of me atm & I can read it on the label (I didnt

notice when I first bought it)

Re: HCl

Posted by: " Debra NW " wee_steps@... wee_steps

Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:52 pm (PST)

Natures Sunshine - Protein digestive aids

(betaine hydrochloride - 325mg (a purified & isolated ingredient from

red beet)(pepsin - 65 mg; derived from pig).

Free of yeast/gluten/starch/colours/flavours/preservatives

Hope this helps. :-)

Debra NW

[Guest guest]

>>> Hello Leah,

>>> Here are some brands reportedly available in Australia you could check

>>> out

>>> that Bee has okay'd in the past.

>>>

>>

Thanks Debra,

I haven't seen the NOW or Natural Factors brands in store here and Nature's

Sunshine was the one I originally purchased that had the lactose. I managed

to take back that one and get one without the lactose.

And thanks to Maree - I looked up i-herbs.

Appreciated all your help!

Thank you,

Leah

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

>

> My 5 year old daughter has been complaining of feeling sick. She

says she feels sick in her throat and stomach as if she has to " spit

up " . I did read the link on HCL and was wondering if I could give this

to her. Her complaints are constant. Any idea what could be causing

this?

+++Hi. What is your name please? First, does your daughter have

candida?

There are many things that can cause digestive problems, with the most

important being eating sugar, high carbs and not getting proper

nutrients, and eliminating toxins, particularly in foods in drinks.

Unless that is corrected HCl won't help.

Start with a proper diet plus cod liver oil and other supplements

recommended for children, and do things recommended in my main candida

article for Improving Digestion, other than taking HCl. See this

article for children:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/baby.php

Here's the section on digestion in my article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s27

After you've read those articles please get back to me if you have

questions.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Sorry, but what is HCL?  I see people talking about it and wonder if I need it,

too.  Could someone help me out?

 

Thank you, Gloria

[Guest guest]

Hi Gloria,

HCL is hydrochloric acid. Bee recommends that we take Bentaine HCL

with meals to help with digestion. You can eat sauerkraut in its

place, if you want to. The sauerkraut also helps with digestion.

Here's an article about supplements in case you missed it:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php

....and here's one specifically about how to take the HCL:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig5.php

>

> Hi,

>  

> Sorry, but what is HCL?  I see people talking about it and wonder if

I need it, too.  Could someone help me out?

>  

> Thank you, Gloria

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, for the info.  I got hcl today and am going to try it with the

sauerkraut (sp?). 

 

Gloria

From: hjacksic <oxhahxo@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: HCL

Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 8:23 PM

Hi Gloria,

HCL is hydrochloric acid. Bee recommends that we take Bentaine HCL

with meals to help with digestion. You can eat sauerkraut in its

place, if you want to. The sauerkraut also helps with digestion.

Here's an article about supplements in case you missed it:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ supp1.php

.....and here's one specifically about how to take the HCL:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ dig5.php

>

> Hi,

>  

> Sorry, but what is HCL?  I see people talking about it and wonder if

I need it, too.  Could someone help me out?

>  

> Thank you, Gloria

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

>> Thanks, for the info.  I got hcl today and am going to try it with the

sauerkraut (sp?). 

>  

> Gloria

*** Hi Gloria:

As mentioned, you use sauerkraut or HCl, they are both digestive aids.

So use one

or the other.

Best,

Marissa

[Guest guest]

>

> :

> >> Thanks, for the info.  I got hcl today and am going to try it with

the sauerkraut (sp?). 

> >  

> > Gloria

>

> *** Hi Gloria:

>

> As mentioned, you use sauerkraut or HCl, they are both

digestive aids. So use one or the other.

+++Hi Marissa. You can use both sauerkraut and HCl - some people need

them both.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

hi bee, thank you so much for all your informative and supportive

emails. sooo grateful. 2 questions for you:

1) how much unpasteurized sauerkraut should we eat per day if we're

using this as a probiotic?

2) any explanation as to why i consistently get terrible headaches

after drinking the electrolyte water?

thanks so much. as soon as i become employed, i will send money your

way!!

jj

[Guest guest]

>

> hi bee, thank you so much for all your informative and supportive

> emails. sooo grateful.

+++Hi Janet. You are so very welcome!

> 2 questions for you:

> 1) how much unpasteurized sauerkraut should we eat per day if we're

> using this as a probiotic?

+++You can eat 1/4 to 1/2 cup sauerkraut with every meal.

> 2) any explanation as to why i consistently get terrible headaches

> after drinking the electrolyte water?

+++The Electrolyte drink helps detoxification, particularly the liver

and lymphatic system, so it mobilizes toxins more, which are mostly

candida toxins. Candida produces over 79 different kinds of toxins,

but most turn into alcohol inside the body, so your headache is just

like having a very bad hangover. In order to decrease such

headaches, start with less of the drink, and only gradually increase

it. Also ensure you start on unrefined coconut oil (antifungal) at

small amounts and gradually increase it to minimize die-off

symptoms. However, we cannot avoid all die-off symptoms since they

are how the body heals itself.

> thanks so much. as soon as i become employed, i will send money

your way!!

+++Thanks for thinking of me my dear.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I stumbled upon Bees website as I was looking for help with enemas.

I

> actually paid for a consultant and spoke to Bee 2 days ago from the

> England GB where I live, I found this very helpful end ended up

> thinking I needed to address the candida issue.

>

+++Hi Chris. I'm happy to see you on my Group. Welcome my friend!

> I had a question was a rather big one and quite unique I think. It

> involves Hcl. I would like to explain. From the day I started to

improve my health I have not been able to take Hcl supplements. I

have asked a whole host of people and never have they ever been able

to have a answer for my problem. Currently as explained I take a

broad digestive supplement which has the enzymes, hcl and pepsin.

>

> I have tried the Hcl (on its own) before in the past and tried it

> again on its own yesterday and today. The response I get is unusual

but at the same time usual as I had had it lots of times before, I

become very tierd all of a sudden and become a little dizzy. The only

way to compare this is when I am short of breathe. Which leads me to

think the only explaination is that when putting in the Hcl my

stomach reacts and becomes maybe inflamed or swollen. Leaving me less

able to breathe to my normal capacity. I know this sounds strange but

it feels the only answer. <snip>

+++Your reaction to HCl is due to healing reactions, so do not be

concerned about them. Shortness of breath, and other symptoms are

very common to have, and HCl also kills off bacteria and candida in

the stomach, which causes die-off/healing reactions, and the release

of toxins causes heart palpitations, and many other reactions

throughout the body.

If your stomach was truly inflammed and swollen you'd be vomiting,

yet that too is a healing reaction since it is a way for the body to

get rid of toxins.

To understand healing naturally, die-off symptoms and healing

reactions read some of these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal2.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_2.php

I hope you get onto this program soon, if not already. We are all

here to help and support you along the way on your journey towards

total health.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I saw Bee already responded to this, but I just wanted to add that you

can use unpasteurized sauerkraut with meals (half a cup) instead of

HCL. It also aids digestion. This is what I do, and I've had great

success with it - I healed my acid reflux (GERD) - and it's generally

cheaper than HCL tablets. My brother was taking HCL for a while but

he had to take so many, that he switched to the sauerkraut as well.

Best,

andra

>

> I have looked for ways around talking Hcl before to try and aviod

> this reaction of tierdness/dizzyness by blaming it on the brand of

> supplement or using slippery elm but to no joy. I even heard that it

> could be a chiroprator problem where if you release pressure on

> thearea of the back where the stomach lies you are able to take them.

> The normal reactions people get is a burning sensation in the

> stomach, but mine is different.

>

> I was wondering if anyone had any other thoughts on this, or any

> other ideas. There has got to be a explanation and I wish I had spoke

> to Bee more about this problem when I did.

>

> Cheers, Chris

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I mentioned last week about the Hcl and problems with being short of

> breath.

>

> >

Call me dumb...What is HCL?

[Guest guest]

> > >

> Call me dumb...What is HCL?

>

it is a digestive enzyme, useful for candida suffers with digestion

problems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochloric_acid

Marisa

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I mentioned last week about the Hcl and problems with being short of

> breath.

>

> The development is now that when I take it I am getting a really sore

> throat where the esophagus is. It feels like it is working in the

> throat before it hits the stomach.

>

> Is this heard of before? What should I do? Or is it the die off?

+++Hi Chris. You are going to experience many different kinds of symptoms as

you work on your health. I don't believe the HCl would directly cause any

throat symptoms, since it is in a capsule and doesn't release until it is in the

stomach.

Your throat symptoms are either die-off symptoms, or " retracing " of previous

similar symptoms with your throat, per Hering's Law of Cures (on my website).

Hang in there Chris. Natural healing is not a steady uphill climb towards

health, where you feel better and better every day. It has its many ups and

downs due to what the body must go through to get rid of toxins, to build itself

up again, and because it must " retrace " all previous symptoms, illnesses,

diseases, injuries, intake of toxins, etc. during the healing process.

Cheers, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I mentioned last week about the Hcl and problems with being short of

> > breath.

> >

> > >

> Call me dumb...What is HCL?

+++Hi Mindy. It is obvious you haven't read How to Successfully Overcome Candida

since you do not know what HCl is - see this section " Improve Digestion " :

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php#s27

That article is the very basis of this program, so be sure you read it very

carefully to understand everything you need to do and why. Also read " Curing

Candida, How to Get Started " ;

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> when should you get the burn after eating and taking hcl? How long afterward?

+++The time can vary according to the individual.

Bee

[Guest guest]

I am having a lot of stomach problems. I am not following the diet at

the moment. I want to start taking HCL. I have not had an ulcer

diagnosis but do wonder about it.

What is the down side to taking HCL if I had an ulcer? Is there any

danger? i did the baking soda test this morning to see whether I'm

under or over producing. I didn't burp at all. (should baking soda

fizz when I add water? Mine didn't ) I have been given a Rx for

Losec which will decrease stomach acid and I don't want to take it but

the doctor wants to know if 2 weeks on these meds resolve anything

before he'll investigate further. GROAN!

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

>

> I am having a lot of stomach problems. I am not following the diet at

> the moment. I want to start taking HCL. I have not had an ulcer

> diagnosis but do wonder about it.

+++Hi . Most candida sufferers have low stomach acid, and the symptoms

for low stomach acid are exactly the same as for high stomach acid, so that's

where the confusion can occur.

>

> What is the down side to taking HCL if I had an ulcer? Is there any danger?

+++No, there is no danger in taking HCl since it is what your stomach produces.

If you happen to get a burning sensation, like heartburn, take 1/4 tsp. of

baking soda in 4-5 ounces of water, and only sip it long enough to stop the

burning feeling - it won't hurt you.

> i did the baking soda test this morning to see whether I'm under or over

producing. I didn't burp at all. (should baking soda

> fizz when I add water? Mine didn't )

+++Where do you read about the baking soda test, since it is not recommended any

more - we found it was not accurate at all.

> I have been given a Rx for Losec which will decrease stomach acid and I don't

want to take it but the doctor wants to know if 2 weeks on these meds resolve

anything before he'll investigate further. GROAN!

+++Doctors perscribe exactly the opposite of what your body needs, so please do

not take Losec. Doctors assume your stomach symptoms are caused by high stomach

acid, which isn't at all true, since it is caused by low stomach acid. If you

take Losec it cuts off production of stomach acid, which causes many digestive

problems, and you will have great difficulty getting off it. The reason it is

hard to stop taking is because the stomach revolts after you stop them,

producing very high stomach acid. That's why doctors say you must take them for

life.

+++When there is enough HCl in the stomach it keeps the valve to the esophagus

closed properly. When there is too little stomach acid that valve won't stay

closed, so you get heartburn or acid reflux from the tiny amount of HCl that is

in the stomach, which burns the esophagus. The esophagus isn't protected from

the effects of stomach acid like the stomach is.

+++If you are wary about taking HCl, eat 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sauerkraut with every

meal to help digestion. The miracle of sauerkraut is that it automatically

lowers HCl if it is too high, and it raises it if it is too low. Many people I

know have been able to stop take Losec and similar drugs by eating sauerkraut

with meals and eating 1-2 tbls. every time their stomach hurt - it takes about 3

weeks for the stomach to settle down and stop overproducing acid.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, I have taken HCL before when I was not on the diet. I stopped taking

it because just one capsule made me have a strange sensation that something was

caught in my throat. Do you know why this would happen?

+++Hi B. It shouldn't cause a problem if you drink plenty of water when

taking HCl or any supplements. You wouldn't " not take it " it causes a

sensation.

> I have bad heartburn all of the time and would like to get rid of it,

saurkraut helps but not enough. I am taking all of the other supplements and am

up to 6 T. of CO. with manageable die-off symptoms of fatigue, nausea, and the

heartburn (which I had for years before starting this).

Since you've had heartburn for years, your body will " retrace " each and every

episode as it heals - see Hering's Law of Cure on my website. So those symptoms

will still come and go even if you are doing everything you can to improve your

digestion.

Ensure you take HCl according to this schedule:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig5.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I understand the timing of when to take HCL, but occasionally half hour

following a meal I am working or distracted.

>

> Which is the lesser of evils--taking it immediately following meals (I always

remember it then!), 2 hours later (when I am kicking myself for getting

distracted!), or not at all? Up until what point after eating is it pointless

to take HCL?

+++Amy, you can still take HCl up to 2 hours after eating if you forget(maybe

even longer since foods is in the stomach for 3-4 hours).

>

> Does HCL give you energy (or am I just getting better?!)?

+++There are many things on this program that improve the breakdown of nutrients

from foods and supplements which provide energy, including HCl, so I think you

are just getting better.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I am taking 6 caps of HCL 20 min. after each meal with NO burning whatsoever

(why not?!).

> I have read on a previous brand not to exceed 12 in a day, but have been

ignoring that (is that ok?)

> At this rate, a bottle of 100 lasts me +5 days. I am not sure this dose is

healthy or economical, so I just wanted to confirm.

+++Hi Amy. It is okay to take up to 10 HCl capsules with each and every meal.

HCl also helps get rid of toxins, so it provides additional benefits.

Eventually you will be able to lower your doses, as your digestion improves.

When you digestion is normal again you won't have to take any HCl, except when

you are stressed (like I do).

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I have read that we should take HCl 30-45 minutes after eating. Does this mean

30-45 minutes after we begin our meal or after we finish?

> For example if I sit down to eat dinner at 6pm but don't finish my meal until

6:30 would I take HCl at 6:30 or 7:00? Thanks so much!

+++Hi Darlene. That means 30-45 minutes after you finish eating, so you can

take HCl at 6:30 PM or later. You will still benefit taking HCl up to 2 hours

after eating, if you forget.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I have read that we should take HCl 30-45 minutes after eating. Does this

mean 30-45 minutes after we begin our meal or after we finish?

>

> > For example if I sit down to eat dinner at 6pm but don't finish my meal

until 6:30 would I take HCl at 6:30 or 7:00? Thanks so much!

>

> +++Hi Darlene. That means 30-45 minutes after you finish eating, so you can

take HCl at 6:30 PM or later. You will still benefit taking HCl up to 2 hours

after eating, if you forget.

+++Sorry, I meant to write you can take HCl at 7:00 PM or later, if you finished

eating at 6:30 PM.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

If you take HCL and you feel more burning in the upper region of the chest what

would that mean?

I am making changes to do your protocol and trying to sort out the detaisl.

thanks,

sue

I