Guest guest Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hi , Curiously enough, the psychological aspect is one thing which indeed leans heavily on the issues of exceptionally successful practitioners of which I am aware of. This is why it is so difficult for an amateur and probably even most professionals to comprehend the differences in results with what appears to be the same the same procedures. I also appreciate the 75 year gap of progress since the time these fellows have done what they were doing. I also appreciate the inadequacy of not only what is reported black on the white, but also the human nature in leaving the failures hidden between the lines to which there is only one hint left in the print from the mouth of Dr. Guy, at least in the document I have available with all its mistakes in retyped text. But. I would have possibly passed over all of that not going into it, if I did not have my own preexisting suspicion that HCl has been victimized and derogated by the medical " science " as a substance essential to our bodies along with iodine and a few others, even more so, considering that our bodies produce it in its pure acid form and on top of that at the point of entry of most of the external supplies, the food we eat. I wondered for some time already, what happens to all kinds of minerals entering the digestive system along with the organic compounds. As seemingly unrelated, my lifetime experience is, that while making anything, I start a job wrong, I can never finish it right, as no amount of fudging will fix it. I may make it look good, even excellent and a good paint job will hide a lot, the customer will never see it, the boss may know, but I will know and most of all the product will know and in due time reveal. I see the HCl deficiency in the stomach as such a wrong start with every meal we eat. It of course lends itself to " proper " diets for example, patching up the problem, feeding in what the deficiency of HCl may be able to cope with, and eventually due to the circular reference of the body chemistry eventually rectify the problem. It lends itself to other patchings with supplementation of pepsin and all kinds of teas and whatever, but unfortunately, dissease being already established and the body chemistry compromised, we begin to walk the thin ice of choosing the correct secondary remedy from the plethora of what is available and end up on a fishing expedition having no good idea where the fish is. I see the HCl supplementation and supplementation of the essential minerals in cooperation with HCl as a shortcut to dietary and remedial solution. It essentially gives the body the correct start with every new batch of supplies, i.e. meal. It allows the digestive tract to extract what it needs from what it gets in the form natural to the body. That is for the start. The second is something you have mentioned, particularly the cellular pH. I can take a gallon of diesel fuel, mix it with a gallon of sewage effluent and a whole batch of acids and bases and even a tablespoon of rat poison and mix it together, then bring the mixture to the required 7.3 ph with correct amounts of this and that and yet, it will be anything but blood plasma, or cellular plasma. Then, I ask: " What good is correct body pH, when its already wrong chemical composition is patched up by other wrong chemicals? " As far as I am concerned, nothing good can come out of that and at least for me, the correct body pH has turned into a big lie, unless it includes the correct chemical composition of that pH, which I have not seen addressed in any other work and research, but this one. When I look not at the illnesses, but at the laboratory tests results of increases of the white blood cell counts with their increased activity, and the red blood cell oxygenation rates and CO2 handling capabilities, I can't but see the correct concept in the use of the HCl method, as the HCl is body's own product. This is something on which 75 years gap has no bearing. What was valid then is in this respect valid now. When I look at Dr. Beszeditz'es treatment of animals during an anthrax epidemic, I can take at least the psychological part of the placebo effect out of the equation, even though the Bengston part of the psychological effect may still be involved. When I take into consideration Dr. Beszeditz's claims of the effects of HCl on the snake and scorpion poisonings, where he describes the very timely remedial action of the HCl injections, I can see the chemistry behind it, rather than any placebo effect. The HCl has obviously the capacity to render organic poisons harmless. When I read through W.F.Koch's laboratory experiments with the dogs poisoned by their own organic poisons produced by the body after a complete removal of their thyroid and parathyroids, I can see the role the added HCl would play with such own poisons produced in the body due to pathologies, be them infectious or due to poor functionality of glans with internal secretion of hormones, and I can even see its beneficial effects opn the poisons produced during Hexheimer reactions. The last, but by far not the least I wish to mention is the fact, that drinking water contains on average 0.5 ppm of chlorine and that this content is sufficient to render the water free of most, if not all bacteria. This is the same chlorine, which our body produces from our food supply and which through the stomach walls enters even our blood stream, if not as free acid, then definitely as chlorides, which once delivered where needed change the chemistry and end as chlorine, before the chlorine picks some other used chemicals and caries those chemicals out of the body. That same chlorine injected into the blood stream in the doses described, will necessarily do its disinfecting job and its chelating job as described in the book. That all said, the final test is, as all of those doctors state, at the sickbed. I do have one such case to observe. Considering, that it is in the hands of a person, who has been through plenty of remedies and who had been so far slowly failing, inasmuch that he has done by far a better job than any Dr. who he had the misfortune to meet, a positive result, should God permit, will almost certainly eliminate the placebo option. I shall find out about that. The other case, that is me, with my chronic problems which I have been trying to resolve for over a year, will represent another such current case. I have " fired " all experts two months ago and I am my only Dr. I have used my NaturoDr. for the past 8 months pretty much only for diagnostic purposes and that has shown me, that Godzila, which is a primitive DC electrifying zapper, does a better job at fixing the blood picture, not only cleaning the blood stream off pathologies like bacteria and fungi, very well visible under dark field, but eventually also fix the red blood cell structure and texture, as well as remedying the blood acidity etc. And guess what ? DC cases electrolysis in electrolytes and when there are chlorine salts present, it does release free chlorine ionic gas into the electrolyte, proportionately to the current strength. To close it all and frankly speaking, even if the effect was a placebo one, but achieved the 95% rate of cure or better, as those Dr.s claim: " Who gives a damn? " It is better than anything out there. When we take consideration, that it is supposed to be beneficial in just about any disease, we can comprehend the two possibilities. The first one is going to be the official claim, that the whole thing is a snake oil. The second one is, that it cuts to the root of our problems with metabolism beginning with poor digestion of what we eat. Wat line will anyone accept as truth is anyone's business, but I can't but try to rub it in, that the second option is realistic and very much worth trying, even if it meant just oral supplementation of minuscule amounts of HCl and potassium chloride. After all, it sure will not hurt and may only help. With kind regards, Slavek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Hi All, I have just run a Marathon so to speak. As I have mentioned before, I came across 75 year old info on curing all kinds of ailments with muriatic acid [HCl] and eventually potassium chloride and a few more common and one uncommon chemical. It has fascinated me and I have mentioned it to a friend in Czech Republic. He has put me in contact with a fellow on June 26, whose 68 year old wife was just about to die from the cancer of pancreas. She was given 6 weeks to live after an operation which took the head of her pancreas, gall bladder and duodenum a year ago. He has managed to keep her alive on all kinds of remedies from Budwig, a 32 day water fast, Phoenix tears and you name it, including supplements of pancreatin and who knows what. Never the less, she was deteriorating and 3 weeks ago bedridden, vomiting anything she was able to eat at all, dehydrated, stoned from morphium tablets and patches and generally waiting for death. I gave him the gist of the HCl therapy records and started translating , for long hours, as there is a pile of the info and I had to look up a lot of terminology in both languages, while he was getting hold of the necessary chemicals. She lived that long and he has begun the cure her more or less as per the supplied info one week later [two weeks ago] with simple oral addition of technical grade HCl to water [as he had hard time getting the chemically pure HCl] and eventually 5 days later also with the salts he's got then potassium chloride and potassium sulfate through intramascular injections. The poor woman has on top of everything illness caused liver cirhosis. To make the 3 week story short, she is out of bed, she washed the dishes twice yesterday, eats some, does not vomit no more, does not need 1/10 of the Phoenix tears and no morphium, drinks well enough to get rid of her dehydration, is able to go outside and chat with the neighbors sitting on a bench, poops right, and appears to be on her way to recovery. I was of course helping along making sure that he has not misunderstood anything, as in his state of desperation would be no surprise. The bottom line of the treatment is boosting the immune system to 2-3 higher level than normal trauma response and a prompt balancing of the body acid - base chemistry. It is not specific to cancers, but to just about anything, because it does not target the pathogen as such, but the body itself. It is a must read and know. Info is sort of orthodox, as it came from orthodox doctors learning its ropes on the go, but doctors who have felt responsibility to their patients, rather than to their pockets and fraternity. It has of course been buried, but it came out in 1935 as a book and some kind soul has retyped the important stuff and put it on the net in 2006. God allowing, I have just had the opportunity to test it, even though indirectly, and it responded as described in the old text. Wake up please. If anyone is interested, here is the beef. http://www.townsendletter.com/Dec2006/ThreeYearsofHClTherapy.pdf I am thrilled. With kind regards, Slavek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 You didn't mean " Muriatic Acid " did you? Have you seen what it does to things? Joe C. From: slavek.krepelka@... Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:10 PM Subject: [ ] HCl Hi All, I have just run a Marathon so to speak. As I have mentioned before, I came across 75 year old info on curing all kinds of ailments with muriatic acid [HCl] and eventually potassium chloride and a few more common and one uncommon chemical. It has fascinated me and I have mentioned it to a friend in Czech Republic. He has put me in contact with a fellow on June 26, whose 68 year old wife was just about to die from the cancer of pancreas. She was given 6 weeks to live after an operation which took the head of her pancreas, gall bladder and duodenum a year ago. He has managed to keep her alive on all kinds of remedies from Budwig, a 32 day water fast, Phoenix tears and you name it, including supplements of pancreatin and who knows what. Never the less, she was deteriorating and 3 weeks ago bedridden, vomiting anything she was able to eat at all, dehydrated, stoned from morphium tablets and patches and generally waiting for death. I gave him the gist of the HCl therapy records and started translating , for long hours, as there is a pile of the info and I had to look up a lot of terminology in both languages, while he was getting hold of the necessary chemicals. She lived that long and he has begun the cure her more or less as per the supplied info one week later [two weeks ago] with simple oral addition of technical grade HCl to water [as he had hard time getting the chemically pure HCl] and eventually 5 days later also with the salts he's got then potassium chloride and potassium sulfate through intramascular injections. The poor woman has on top of everything illness caused liver cirhosis. To make the 3 week story short, she is out of bed, she washed the dishes twice yesterday, eats some, does not vomit no more, does not need 1/10 of the Phoenix tears and no morphium, drinks well enough to get rid of her dehydration, is able to go outside and chat with the neighbors sitting on a bench, poops right, and appears to be on her way to recovery. I was of course helping along making sure that he has not misunderstood anything, as in his state of desperation would be no surprise. The bottom line of the treatment is boosting the immune system to 2-3 higher level than normal trauma response and a prompt balancing of the body acid - base chemistry. It is not specific to cancers, but to just about anything, because it does not target the pathogen as such, but the body itself. It is a must read and know. Info is sort of orthodox, as it came from orthodox doctors learning its ropes on the go, but doctors who have felt responsibility to their patients, rather than to their pockets and fraternity. It has of course been buried, but it came out in 1935 as a book and some kind soul has retyped the important stuff and put it on the net in 2006. God allowing, I have just had the opportunity to test it, even though indirectly, and it responded as described in the old text. Wake up please. If anyone is interested, here is the beef. http://www.townsendletter.com/Dec2006/ThreeYearsofHClTherapy.pdf I am thrilled. With kind regards, Slavek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Of course I have seen what it does to things. But have you seen what concentrations were and are being used? Have you ever seen what concentrated acetic acid i.e. vinegar acid can do? Have you known that it is in you? Have you known that it is as natural to our bodies as lets say calcium? Have you known that it is the only inorganic acid, which our bodies actually produces for its purposes? Have you known that 0.5 ppm is in your drinking water? Have you known that if you are deficient in stomach HCl, you are not absorbing anywhere near enough minerals, no matter how much you stuff yourself with them? Have you known that if you start a job wrong, you can never finish it right and that you start a new job of digestion with every new meal? I can take a horse to the water, but I can' make it drink, can I? Do yourself a favor and read it and then ask questions. I mean every word I have posted. With kind regards, Slavek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 > > Hi, > My son Austin and I have been on Bee's diet since June 2010. I've was taking HCL long before I learned of Bee's info but have noticed that since doing Bee's diet I don't do well on HCL. Last night my son had a bad experience with the HCL. He is in martial arts and was tested last night for the next belt. I could tell he was not doing well. It was his gut. He had taken the HCL before going last night (I feel bad because I suggested it). I could tell his core was not well. He has a weak constitution anyways compared to the other kids but he was really struggling last night. Shoulders were slumped, could barely do his kicks, down in the mouth look, etc. He did pass and was promoted to the next belt. > Should we keep taking the HCL or not? Is it causing die off/healing reactions or maybe we just don't need it any longer. > +++Hi Cassandra. HCl improves digestion, so maybe HCl your son's doesn't need it if his digestion is okay. Does your son have poor digestion, i.e. undigested foods in his stools, heartburn (GERD), food sitting in his stomach that feels like a lump, etc. All the best, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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