Radiation

[Guest guest]

Yet another reason for us to forego RAI! At one point it seemed to be a

quick fix, but I'm awfully glad I didn't " cave in " and found a different

endocrinologist who believes in achieving remission. I'd like to see some

comments on Tapazole vs. PTU. I'm taking PTU, but understand while it's

kinder to pregnant women because it doesn't pass through the placenta, it

can cause liver damage. I'm not pregnant and don't plan to be, nor do I

want to do something to cause damage to my liver. Thanks!

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Bonner

Radiation

> " Some premenopausal women who undergo radiation therapy for a thyroid

tumor

> may be at increased risk for later developing breast cancer, researchers

> from the M. D. Cancer Center, of the University of Texas, said

> Tuesday. "

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> http://diabetes.medscape.com/27776.rhtml

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[Guest guest]

Bonner,

Both PTU and Tapazole can cause liver damage but these are rare side effects.

And this appears to be a genetic thing with some people more predisposed. PTU

is said to pose a slightly higher risk. Whichever drug is used, symptoms

usually develop fairly quickly indicating an intolerance to the med. Most

drugs, including estrogens and vitamins, have the potential of causing liver

problems, so it's best to always go with the lowest dose needed for the least

amount of time necessary.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonner,

Your PTU dose is low. Here's some info:

The usual starting dose for PTU is 100 mg every 8 hours or 150 mg every 12

hours. In some patients, daily doses as high as 1200 mg are required.

Resistance to doses as high as 2000 mg are thought to be attributed to poor

compliance.

Discovered 5 years before methimazole, propylthiouracil is used twice as

often, perhaps due to the fact that some physicians have more experience with

it and its effects have been proven for a longer time. PTU has a shorter

plasma half-life (75 minutes) which means that it acts faster, stays in the

circulation for a shorter period of time, and hence must be taken more often.

A 100 mg dose begins to wane in 2-3 hours.

What's really interesting is that in one of the Japanese Integrative Healing

Centers, they've been using ATD's combined with Traditional Chinese Medicine

and achieving quicker remissions than with ATD's alone. The abstract didn't

mention the specific protocol they used but mentioned replenishing and

correcting yin yang imbalances. I suspect acupuncture may also have been

used.

You're fortunate to be on a low dose of ATD's. I'm thinking you might be

noticing symptoms when the peak effect of the drug begins to wear off like

2-3 hours post dose. Perhaps you could coordinate this so the effects wear

off around mealtimes. you can use the effects of goitrogenic foods to help

with symptoms then.

Everything I've found dealing with remission and its rates mentions dietary

iodine content. Many studies indicate that the amount of dietary iodine

consumed, especially from hidden sources like fast food and prepackaged

meals, is relative to remission rates. The lower your dietary iodine intake,

the better your chances for remission. 's site can steer you in the right

direction and help you decide what supplements are worth trying. Be sure to

read the stories there, especially that of my friend B.

[Guest guest]

Elaine,

You're so knowledgeable and I really appreciate all the time you spend

giving us all the benefit of your knowledge. I'm taking 50 mg of PTU twice

a day. Will 's site tell me whether that's a low, medium or high

dosage? I'm not still losing weight, but I do still get really jittery

sometimes and my head can break out into a sweat with seemingly no

provocation. I was hoping that I would be able to begin the weaning process

when I go back to see my doctor on the 12th, but I'm afraid that won't be

the case. I know this sounds almost like sacrilege, but if I could get

stabilized, I wouldn't mind taking meds every day in addition to

vitamin/mineral supplements ... diabetics whose condition can't be

controlled by diet have to.

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Bonner

Re: Radiation

> Bonner,

> Both PTU and Tapazole can cause liver damage but these are rare side

effects.

> And this appears to be a genetic thing with some people more predisposed.

PTU

> is said to pose a slightly higher risk. Whichever drug is used, symptoms

> usually develop fairly quickly indicating an intolerance to the med. Most

> drugs, including estrogens and vitamins, have the potential of causing

liver

> problems, so it's best to always go with the lowest dose needed for the

least

> amount of time necessary.

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[Guest guest]

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> Does any one know of a herb, or vitamin that helps speed toxins from

> radiation out of the system? My mother is going through radiation for

> a tumor that she had removed, and asked me what to take. I have no

> clue. I thought taking more amino acids would help her, but beyond

> that have no idea. Anyone dealt with this before? Thanks Hanida

Hi Hanida,

That work is done by the antioxidant glutathione; in fact people

anticipating radiation should be loading up on glutathione precursors

(cold-processed whey and selenium) before the radiation program, to

stop the cascades of free radicals and accelerated aging that

results.

Cold-processed whey is also the thing to take to prevent cancer and

AIDS-related wasting.

Here's the science:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/medline_links.html

regards,

Duncan Crow

[Guest guest]

And I take cold processed whey and my nose stuffs up so I can't breathe. I

started radiation today for cancer. I'd also like to know how to detox from

it, I'm doing bio energy work, other than that, I am at a loss.

Lona

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> Cold-processed whey is also the thing to take to prevent cancer and

> AIDS-related wasting.

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> Here's the science:

> http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/medline_links.html

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> regards,

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[Guest guest]

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> Hi Bee,

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> I know it's a great idea to get out in the sun (vitamin D, fungus

> hates sunlight etc), however in Australia we have a very hi UV

index.

==>, the UV index is an international standard measurement of

how strong the ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the sun is at a

particular place on a particular day. It is a scale primarily used in

daily forecasts aimed at the general public.

According to current thinking, its purpose is to help people to

effectively protect themselves from UV light, of which excessive

exposure causes sunburns, eye damage such as cataracts, skin aging,

and skin cancer, etc., which we know is false. The sun's rays are

not the problem. The problem is people's diets, lack of nutrition,

excessive toxins, and particularly " bad " fats and oils that makes the

cell membranes weak.

Sunlight contains ultraviolet (UV) rays that come in three different

lengths: UV-A, UV-B, and UV-C. UV-B rays are the ones that are

capable of producing vitamin D in your body by acting on the

cholesterol found in your skin. How much UV-B rays that reach your

skin and produce vitamin D depends on a variety of different factors,

the main ones being:

1. Skin Colour: Lighter skin colour allows deeper penetration by UV-B

rays, which decreases the amount of sunlight exposure needed for

adequate vitamin D production. Needless to say but I'll say it

anyway, the darker your skin, the harder it is for UV-B rays to

penetrate it and produce vitamin D, increasing your need for sunlight

exposure.

2. Season: People living in Canada, Europe, and the lower 48 states

of America receive little to no UV-B rays from early autumn to late

spring.

3. Altitude and Latitude: The higher you live above sea level, the

greater exposure you have to UV-B rays. The higher you live above the

equator, the less exposure you have to UV-B rays.

4. Pollution and Clouds: Both decrease the number of UV-B rays that

reach you.

5. Age: As people age, natural degenerative changes that occur in

skin make it harder for UV-B rays to convert cholesterol to vitamin

D. Elderly people typically need to rely more on food sources than

sunlight for their vitamin D needs.

6. Your body's ability to convert depends upon how much and how long

you've consumed " bad " fats and oils, and whether you are currently

sick or not. Of course all candida sufferers are sick.

> Is there a point at which the sun is a bad thing (in terms of

> radiation)? I sit in direct sun for 15-20 mins at the moment.

==>No, just gradually expose your skin so it doesn't burn. In order

to achieve optimal levels of vitamin D from the sun 85% of the body

surface (skin) needs exposure to prime midday sun (10:00 A.M. to 2:00

P.M.). Most people require 800 to 1,200 IU vitamin D daily. About 100

to 200 IU of vitamin D are produced for each 5 percent of body

surface exposed.

> On the topic of radiation, how do you feel about laser tattoo

removal? I have several tattoos which i know are bad (mercury etc),

but i also want them removed for religious purposes. When I am cured

of candida do you think the damage from the laser treatment would

outweigh the damage from the ink anyway? I really hate them and want

to be a clean slate again!

==>, there is no easy way to effectively remove tattoos the way

you want to. After you are cured of candida laser might be the only

way. Since you know how damaging radiation is to the body you could

do the following:

1) Do Hubbard's Purification Program first, so you " know " all of the

current radiation in your body is removed.

2) Take all of the supplements recommended on this program to ensure

your body is utilizing fats, oils and oil soluble vitamins, and

maintain your omega 3 intake to ensure omega 6 and 3 are balanced at

least equally.

3) Gradually increasing your supplement doses along with niacin as

recommended on the Hubbard's program before and during treatments to

ensure your body is getting rid of the radiation as it is being

exposed to it, along with consuming a good diet chock full of

nutrients, and minimize your exposure to any other toxins.

4) Doing the treatments during a time when you are not stressed.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

I've opted for radiation following removal of a tumor in my rectum. Can anyone

advise me as to what I should be eating, supplements etc during this treatment?

Thanks everyone

Carl

[Guest guest]

Hi Star,

Ultrasound does have radiation even though doctors will claim it doesn't, and

that it only uses sound waves.

CT-scans contain a lot of radiation, more than Ultrasound does.

As you continue on this program all of the radiation will detoxify, and as you

get more radiation your body is more efficient at detoxifying it right away.

But getting rid of radiation, like all toxins, also requires all of the

nutrients and supplements, not just niacin. No nutrients work alone; they all

require others.

Getting rid of radiation also involves fats and all of the fat solube vitamins

A, D & E, omega 3, etc., etc. That's why this high good fats program works so

well.

Bee

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> Dear Bee;

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> By regularly using Niacin reverse the damage being donbe by CT-scan and X-ray?

Many doctors told me that ultra sound does not have radiation is that true?

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> Thanks! Star

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[Guest guest]

There are always lots of posts asking how to mediate the effects of Radiation or

Scans............so here's a response from to stash away in our minds.

Grandpa

Carl,

There are many supplements and meds that will help protect normal

tissue and there are many others that will kick up the effectiveness

of radiation. Few will do both. Vitamin E Succinate is one of the

few that does. You might consider taking 1,000 I.U. Vit E succinate daily.

At 12:21 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

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>I've opted for radiation following removal of a tumor in my rectum.

>Can anyone advise me as to what I should be eating, supplements etc

>during this treatment? Thanks everyone

>Carl

[Guest guest]

Carl-

To follow on to Granpa's post, please read the studies linked below.

First, though controversial, antioxidant supplementation will both

moderate radiation side effects while enhancing its effects. Second,

vit E specifically will also help.

http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/nutritional-supplements-safe-and-benefici\

al-patients-undergoing-chemotherapy-and-radiation-t

http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/neuroprotective-effect-vitamin-e-suppleme\

ntation

This links includes articles that talk about the side effects of

radiation, late and long term side effects and secondary cancer risk.

Also articles and studies highlighting the ability of mild exercise in

moderating side effects.

http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/pbc/search?pbc_sitename=All & keys=radiation+side+e\

ffects

Emerson

MM survivor who wishes I knew than what I know now...