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Hi Jan, Just a quick response here. I receive a weekly e-mail

from " The Gluten-Free Mall " and just happened to get this today. This

is not for Bagels, but for Gluten Free Cinnimon Rolls, with no sugar

added. I have seen these. They look like bagels with no holes. LOL

You might brouse their site. I was not able to talk to my friend

yesterday, but will tomorrow and will get back with you then (Sat).

http://www.glutenfreemall.com/catalog/gillians-foods-glutenfree-

cinnamon-raisin-rolls-p-527.html

V

http://www.glutenfreemall.com/catalog/gillians-foods-glutenfree-

cinnamon-raisin-rolls-p-527.html

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> > Jan, You know, you might call them. 800-291-8386 Their help line

> > might be able to recommend some products. I finally gave up. I

even

> > did an internet search for gluten/sugar free products. Either

they

> > are wheat free w/sugar or sugar free w/wheat. Some contain juices

as

> > a sweetener and or honey. I have a friend that does not eat wheat

or

> > sugar. I will call her today and ask her what she eats and let

you

> > know. I might not be able to get back to until Saturday though as

I

> > am busy tomorrow. V

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Thanks again, .

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> Hi Jan, Just a quick response here. I receive a weekly e-mail

> from " The Gluten-Free Mall " and just happened to get this today. This

> is not for Bagels, but for Gluten Free Cinnimon Rolls, with no sugar

> added. I have seen these. They look like bagels with no holes. LOL

> You might brouse their site. I was not able to talk to my friend

> yesterday, but will tomorrow and will get back with you then (Sat).

>

> http://www.glutenfreemall.com/catalog/gillians-foods-glutenfree-

> cinnamon-raisin-rolls-p-527.html

>

> V

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LOL I think we can share the sources for gluten free online.

Big Pharma/FDA won't be threatened by gluten. :)

Gracia

Hi, I know we are not supposed to share the sources online, but has anyone

every checked to see what manufactor is gluten free?Could you email me

privately? Thanks, Elyse

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I don't know where you are, but in my experience you

could ask a store clerk for what you want. Also,

private bakery shops usually carry gluten free bread

too.

Roni

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> LOL I think we can share the sources for gluten

> free online.

> Big Pharma/FDA won't be threatened by gluten. :)

> Gracia

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> Hi, I know we are not supposed to share the

> sources online, but has anyone

> every checked to see what manufactor is gluten

> free?Could you email me

> privately? Thanks, Elyse

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> Bee, are there any Gluten free products allowed on diet? What else can you

drink besides water and herbal teas? What are good snacks?

+++Hi Sue. It appears you haven't read important articles about my candida

program, which explains about gluten and what you can and cannot eat.

So please read so you understand what you need to do and why, which includes

eliminating all gluten foods and products, including all grains:

1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida

2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php

Here's the Candida Diet Food List:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/foodslist.php

There are some safe snacks you can have, which are designated by the green

circle on all recipes on my website:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/menu6.php

The snacks with the red circle can be safer snacks to make, IF you must cheat on

the diet, but cheating isn't recommended.

For encouragement see the Success Stories by members of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

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I keep testing weak negative for celiac disease, but many members of my family

have it, including my Mom and sister. They all tested negative as well and had

colonoscopies and endoscopies preformed and those came out great too... they

still took out anything with gluten from their diets and are doing much, much

better now. My doctors insist I don't have it even though I react so badly to

gluten... they insist I have IBS even though tests suggest I don't have it.

So... I have no idea what to think about any of this.

>

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> http://www.gicare.com/diets/Gluten-Free.aspx

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> Roni

> <>Just because something

> isn't seen doesn't mean it's

> not there<>

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If eliminating gluten makes you feel better, then by all means do it. It

wouldn't hurt you by eliminating the gluten anyway. I'm so sick of doctors and

their neat little pronouncements

from the comfort of their offices. They don't listen to their patients and they

don't bother to

find out any new information, especialy if it contradicts their pat little

answers.

Roni

<>Just because something

isn't seen doesn't mean it's

not there<>

From: susansbook <susansbook@...>

Subject: Re: Gluten Free

hypothyroidism

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 4:51 PM

I keep testing weak negative for celiac disease, but many members of my family

have it, including my Mom and sister. They all tested negative as well and had

colonoscopies and endoscopies preformed and those came out great too... they

still took out anything with gluten from their diets and are doing much, much

better now. My doctors insist I don't have it even though I react so badly to

gluten... they insist I have IBS even though tests suggest I don't have it.

So... I have no idea what to think about any of this.

>

>

> http://www.gicare.com/diets/Gluten-Free.aspx

>  

>

>  

> Roni

> <>Just because something

> isn't seen doesn't mean it's

> not there<>

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Took my daughter to one of the four top Celiac docs in the country (went to

another state for this testing). She had a positive blood test but a

negative endoscopy. The Dr. said she doesn't have Celiac - but that there's

a form of gluten-intolerance which has nothing to do with Celiac but

everything to do with feeling better when gluten is removed. Says it's not

testable.

My PCP says the same thing.

So, I would just not hold onto any anxiety that your tests haven't been

conclusive. You may or may not have Celiac; but you DO seem to have

gluten-intolerance. Just go with it. Your body knows itself best.

Cherwyn

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Yes! I totally and completely agree. They seem to think they know your body

better then you do. Ridiculous. My friend was a nurse for 35 years and he said

one thing he heard a lot of was: " Boy, they looked good on paper. " when the

person was actually totally ill and they had missed it because their tests said

they weren't sick with what the patient actually knew themselves to be sick

with.

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> > Roni

> > <>Just because something

> > isn't seen doesn't mean it's

> > not there<>

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Well, I tend to have to agree with that doctor then. I know too many people who

have the same difficulty and it doesn't show up on the tests. But unless the

doctor is unbelievably familiar with celiac and gluten problems, they'll tell

you that you don't have any problem with gluten at all. Like, IBS... they tell

you you have IBS all the time... but really, my family doesn't... they just

can't eat gluten... and some of them can't eat anything derived from corn...

they get just as ill.

>

> Took my daughter to one of the four top Celiac docs in the country (went to

> another state for this testing). She had a positive blood test but a

> negative endoscopy. The Dr. said she doesn't have Celiac - but that there's

> a form of gluten-intolerance which has nothing to do with Celiac but

> everything to do with feeling better when gluten is removed. Says it's not

> testable.

>

>

>

> My PCP says the same thing.

>

>

>

> So, I would just not hold onto any anxiety that your tests haven't been

> conclusive. You may or may not have Celiac; but you DO seem to have

> gluten-intolerance. Just go with it. Your body knows itself best.

>

>

>

> Cherwyn

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From what I have heard you have to get an IgG test to get accurate results.

Most docs test IgE

CW

-- Re: Gluten Free

Took my daughter to one of the four top Celiac docs in the country (went to

another state for this testing). She had a positive blood test but a

negative endoscopy. The Dr. said she doesn't have Celiac - but that there's

a form of gluten-intolerance which has nothing to do with Celiac but

everything to do with feeling better when gluten is removed. Says it's not

testable.

My PCP says the same thing.

So, I would just not hold onto any anxiety that your tests haven't been

conclusive. You may or may not have Celiac; but you DO seem to have

gluten-intolerance. Just go with it. Your body knows itself best.

Cherwyn

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Go to an NAET doctor.

He/she can remove all food allergies including celiac disease.

Western med. will tell you to remove it from your diet.

But, why suffer?

Just get rid of your allergies for about $80 per visit.

He basically removes blocked energy.

It really works.

Ali

On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:48 AM, Cherwyn Ambuter wrote:

> Took my daughter to one of the four top Celiac docs in the country

> (went to

> another state for this testing). She had a positive blood test but a

> negative endoscopy. The Dr. said she doesn't have Celiac - but that

> there's

> a form of gluten-intolerance which has nothing to do with Celiac but

> everything to do with feeling better when gluten is removed. Says

> it's not

> testable.

>

> My PCP says the same thing.

>

> So, I would just not hold onto any anxiety that your tests haven't

> been

> conclusive. You may or may not have Celiac; but you DO seem to have

> gluten-intolerance. Just go with it. Your body knows itself best.

>

> Cherwyn

>

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Or just get a pet duck. Either way you'll likely wind up with a quack.

Put " naet hoax " into Google and read a bit. Examples:

..

..

> “Expensive Quackery”

>

> “I attended twice weekly sessions, was obsessive about avoiding the

> “allergens” I had just been cleared for, and after 4 months…nothing.

> Well, nothing results-wise. A negative $1,500 in my checking account.”

>

>

..

And another:

>

> *NAET* clashes with the concepts of anatomy, physiology, pathology,

> physics, and allergy accepted by the scientific community.

>

> The story of its “discovery” is highly implausible. Its core

> diagnostic approach—muscle testing for “allergies”—is senseless and is

> virtually certain to diagnose nonexistent problems.

>

> Its recommendations for dietary restrictions based on nonexistent food

> allergies are likely to place the patient at great risk for nutrient

> deficiency, and, in the case of children, at risk for social problems

> and the development of eating disorders.

>

> I believe that practitioners who use *NAET* have such poor judgment

> that they should not be permitted to remain licensed.

>

> If you encounter a practitioner who relies on the strategies described

> in this article, please ask the state attorney general to investigate.”

>

..

YMMV.

..

..

> Posted by: " Alison Trotta-Marshall " rubyrain11@...

> <mailto:rubyrain11@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gluten%20Free>

> gypsy1jig <gypsy1jig>

>

>

> Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:32 am (PST)

>

>

>

> Go to an NAET doctor.

> He/she can remove all food allergies including celiac disease.

> Western med. will tell you to remove it from your diet.

>

> But, why suffer?

> Just get rid of your allergies for about $80 per visit.

> He basically removes blocked energy.

> It really works.

> Ali

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Tell that to all the thousands of patients each day around the world

that

are seeing their allergies like celiac disease gone forever.

I guess all those patients in the waiting room I was talking to

at the NAET doctor's office were all lying about their successes too!

-Ali

On Dec 17, 2009, at 7:17 AM, wrote:

> Or just get a pet duck. Either way you'll likely wind up with a quack.

>

> Put " naet hoax " into Google and read a bit. Examples:

> .

> .

>

>> “Expensive Quackery”

>>

>> “I attended twice weekly sessions, was obsessive about avoiding the

>> “allergens” I had just been cleared for, and after 4 months…nothing.

>> Well, nothing results-wise. A negative $1,500 in my checking

>> account.”

>>

>>

> .

> And another:

>>

>> *NAET* clashes with the concepts of anatomy, physiology, pathology,

>> physics, and allergy accepted by the scientific community.

>>

>> The story of its “discovery” is highly implausible. Its core

>> diagnostic approach—muscle testing for “allergies”—is senseless and

>> is

>> virtually certain to diagnose nonexistent problems.

>>

>> Its recommendations for dietary restrictions based on nonexistent

>> food

>> allergies are likely to place the patient at great risk for nutrient

>> deficiency, and, in the case of children, at risk for social problems

>> and the development of eating disorders.

>>

>> I believe that practitioners who use *NAET* have such poor judgment

>> that they should not be permitted to remain licensed.

>>

>> If you encounter a practitioner who relies on the strategies

>> described

>> in this article, please ask the state attorney general to

>> investigate.”

>>

> .

> YMMV.

>

>

> .

> .

>

>

>> Posted by: " Alison Trotta-Marshall " rubyrain11@...

>> <mailto:rubyrain11@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gluten%20Free

>> >

>> gypsy1jig <gypsy1jig>

>>

>>

>> Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:32 am (PST)

>>

>>

>>

>> Go to an NAET doctor.

>> He/she can remove all food allergies including celiac disease.

>> Western med. will tell you to remove it from your diet.

>>

>> But, why suffer?

>> Just get rid of your allergies for about $80 per visit.

>> He basically removes blocked energy.

>> It really works.

>> Ali

>

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Or perhaps you should do a bit of research and find the massive results

as I quoted in the " testimonial " below. It really requires a total lack

of knowledge of the physiology of the human body to believe any of that

crap. You do your fellow humans a huge disservice by promoting such

quackery. I'd challenge you to point to even ONE credible study

supporting the results of naet but it would be a waste of time.

..

..

> Posted by: " Alison Trotta-Marshall " rubyrain11@...

> <mailto:rubyrain11@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Gluten%20Free>

> gypsy1jig <gypsy1jig>

>

>

> Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:29 am (PST)

>

>

>

> Tell that to all the thousands of patients each day around the world

> that

> are seeing their allergies like celiac disease gone forever.

> I guess all those patients in the waiting room I was talking to

> at the NAET doctor's office were all lying about their successes too!

> -Ali

> On Dec 17, 2009, at 7:17 AM, wrote:

>

> > Or just get a pet duck. Either way you'll likely wind up with a quack.

> >

> > Put " naet hoax " into Google and read a bit. Examples:

> > .

> > .

> >

> >> “Expensive Quackery”

> >>

> >> “I attended twice weekly sessions, was obsessive about avoiding the

> >> “allergens” I had just been cleared for, and after 4 months…nothing.

> >> Well, nothing results-wise. A negative $1,500 in my checking

> >> account.”

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I use arrowroot to thicken sauces and gravies, it is good for you, unlike

cornstarch.

--

>Pamela, there is such a wide variety of gluten-free foods out there right

>now. We are lucky as those who came before us didn't have so many choices.

>

> You can use Cornstarch as a thickener, or a flour. Flours: Rice

> flour, tapioca flour, coconut flour, ground almond meal. There are tons

> of gluten free pasta out there. Deboles even makes one. My husband

> makes a wonderful chicken/rice soup from scratch for me..

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

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Am really interested in this. I went gluten free 2 months ago because a blood

test indicated I was gluten intolerant. I havent felt that good on it though.

Have a lot of indigestion and generally feeling under par. Is there anything I

can read on the subject?

Toni

> >

> >

> > Also, a gluten-free diet. Gluten causes bone (including jawbone) problems:

> > osteomalacia, osteopenia and osteoarthritis.

> >

> >

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Greetings,

The book Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon has a good section on

grains and on phytaze in particular.

My Mother used to break out from eating hot cereal, but as soon as we

started to soak the grain for 8 to 12 hours before cooking, all problems

went away. She now loves hot cereal, something she never could eat

comfortably.

We have found that any bread dough recipe can be healthier by leaving it

a little wetter, don't knead it quite as much and let it rise once on

the counter. Then, pop it in the fridge for at least 24 hours. This

removes all the phytaze and makes the bread much healthier. Of course

we are grinding our own wheat as well, but I get very sick without

grains in my diet. I do get insane gas from store bought breads.

Warning, wet dough sticks to stuff, make sure you flour the dough before

putting it in/on a pan. We very often take 5 days to use up a batch,

just cooking what we want that day. Also, if you are going to let it

sit, you should use less yeast.

I hope this helps, if you have any more questions, I will be happy to

answer.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

On 6/30/2010 7:03 AM, ilt404 wrote:

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>

>

> Am really interested in this. I went gluten free 2 months ago because a

> blood test indicated I was gluten intolerant. I havent felt that good on

> it though. Have a lot of indigestion and generally feeling under par. Is

> there anything I can read on the subject?

> Toni

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Greetings,

I am sorry, you are correct. I was referring to store bought food, as

money won't buy quality. Of course, farmers can be a source of healthy

food. The direct market is the best place to shop.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

On 6/30/2010 8:29 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote:

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>

> Our family went gluten free 2 years ago and have been doing much better

> but now that I believe we have healed our guts I would like to try to

> introduce some fermented breads. The farm where we get our raw milk

> makes fermented organic breads. http://littlerooster.net/nutrition.html

> They are $3.89 / loaf and are based on Nourishing Traditions baking /

> fermenting. The farm owner started the local WAP chapter. So it is not

> true that you cannot find a good bread at any price. You need to hunt

> around - start looking at your local Weston Price group as they are a

> great resource for healthy foods.

>

>

>

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Here stuff is sold int grocery stores too. :) But if you are looking at

conventional big named items then you are correct. You won't find it.

Steph

Re: [ ] Gluten free

Greetings,

I am sorry, you are correct. I was referring to store bought food, as

money won't buy quality. Of course, farmers can be a source of healthy

food. The direct market is the best place to shop.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

On 6/30/2010 8:29 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote:

>

>

> Our family went gluten free 2 years ago and have been doing much better

> but now that I believe we have healed our guts I would like to try to

> introduce some fermented breads. The farm where we get our raw milk

> makes fermented organic breads. http://littlerooster.net/nutrition.html

> They are $3.89 / loaf and are based on Nourishing Traditions baking /

> fermenting. The farm owner started the local WAP chapter. So it is not

> true that you cannot find a good bread at any price. You need to hunt

> around - start looking at your local Weston Price group as they are a

> great resource for healthy foods.

>

>

>

>

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I will try to obtain that book on Amazon. The only trouble is I live in

Australia and am not as spoilt as you Americans who seem to be able to obtain

anything you want. I have a friend who is gluten free in Omaha and she can have

so many treats. I am dying here from lack of variety in my diet and not happy.

I have to start cooking though which I can start to do now my back and knee are

better. Do you know any good websites with relevant information? I joined the

gluten group but didnt find it helpful at all so cancelled.

Toni

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I agree, corn products are full of fungus/mold; arrowroot is a heathier choice. Kathleen

Re: Gluten Free

Recommend using arrowroot powder instead of corn starch for thickening sauces. Arrowroot is nutritive and healing, but corn starch is neither.--At 02:46 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:>Being completely gluten free is possible. Most processed foods do have >wheat, wheat gluten, or soy sauce which a true celiac should not >eat. There is also wheat gluten in Twizzlers!!! On the positive side, >when cooking fresh, you can thicken your sauces with corn starch, and >there are rice pastas available at many grocery stores. And restaurants >have food sensitive menus available.>>If you would like to contact me personally outside this group, I can share >some resources that I have found valuable. I have been gf for over 11 >years now.>>~~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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Not only that but I recently read about body powders, I haven't used a talc

body powder for decades, but it turns out that corn starch as a body powder

actually fosters fungus growth on the skin! I use arrowroot powder

now. If anyone doesn't already know, talc body powders should be

absolutely avoided, especially for babies, but true for everyone.

Sorry I know this is far afield, but since yeast/fungus issues are such a

major health issue. Let's not continue on this OT subject tho.

--

>I agree, corn products are full of fungus/mold; arrowroot is a heathier

>choice. Kathleen

> Re: Gluten Free

>

>

>

>Recommend using arrowroot powder instead of corn starch for thickening

>sauces. Arrowroot is nutritive and healing, but corn starch is neither.

>

>--

>

>At 02:46 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:

>

> >Being completely gluten free is possible. Most processed foods do have

> >wheat, wheat gluten, or soy sauce which a true celiac should not

> >eat. There is also wheat gluten in Twizzlers!!! On the positive side,

> >when cooking fresh, you can thicken your sauces with corn starch, and

> >there are rice pastas available at many grocery stores. And restaurants

> >have food sensitive menus available.

> >

> >If you would like to contact me personally outside this group, I can share

> >some resources that I have found valuable. I have been gf for over 11

> >years now.

> >

> >~

>

>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

>--A.J. Muste

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Marcy,

I agree with re: arrowroot. Plus, it is not as carb heavy and so, far healthier.

Going GF can be overwhelming. I've been on this for so many years I can't even remember. I am gluten, diary, and soy free. I also experience far far less inflamation.

The thing is, as long as you ingest gluten, you won't have the energy you need to stay gluten free. It's a double edged sword. And it was overwhelming to start.

First thing you need to know is that it gets easier. You learn and it gets easier. Second, figure out a program you can follow that is safe, while you learn. Mine was: Breakfast, scrambled eggs with veggies (onion, pepper, brocolli, asparagus, etc.) It was quick and easy and I could either chop the veggies ahead or even cook it the night before and just reheat. That gave me a safe start to the day. Lunch was either a salad or a stir fry. Make sure your soy sauce doesn't have wheat. The wheat free tamari is safe if you are ony gf. If you want to avoid soy, the coconut amino acids are good. I made my own salad dressing. Oil and vinegar. Once in a while for a change I made honey mustard. In a pinch, just use a little lemon juice. Dinner was either salad or stirfry. Snacks were raw almonds and apples.

When I started they took me off all 'hard to digest foods'. I cheated and ate cooked onion anyway. A girl has to have SOMETHING! I was tired and sick and this was easy to make and plan. Boring but I didn't care. I lived off this for about two months before I started to have enough energy to cook other stuff. I invested in a small freezer and it has been worth every cent I paid and more. I make ahead and freeze nut flour muffins (a mainstay) and individual portions of meals so I can just grab and go.

If you want to contact me offline, I can help you figure out what really matters to you and some simple solutions to keep you safe. You will get the hang of it.

In answer to your original question. No, iodine will not mitigate the ingestion of gluten. I wish! There are some things you can do if you get 'poisoned' with it but nothing that will really take the issues away. Avoidance is the key. That does get easier.

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