Re: and Arlyn

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for taking time to even read my story...bless you!

 

My sister had found a hard " bean " in her armpit. She went to the doctor for an

unrelated issue and asked him to check it. They did a mammogram which missed it.

Then they sent her for ultra sound, missed it. Then she had another test I can't

remember, and then guided xray with contrast? and missed it again. The doctor

said " we can remove it if it would make you feel better, so she did. They call

her and tell her it came back positive for stage I cancer. She had it removed

and got radiation. This was a little over a year ago. So far, so good, but she

said the one breast they radiated is bigger and has a hard lump which she thinks

is scar tissue. I told her to get it checked out.  Other than that, we have

never had any cancer in the family until this past year where my mom got

diagnosed with ovarian ca as well and caught at stage I so she is doing fine too

so far.

 

I am afraid to get mammograms. For one, I don't' want to expose my body to more

radiation, and I already know there is a lump there...BUT since I don't have

health insurance, the county offered a free breast exam, mammogram, and then a

small fee for ultra sound.

 

I have fibrocystic breasts so there are many little things bumps. I have no

deformity in the breast. No nipple changes and I did not feel this lump last

month, so I hope it would be in early stages...but still hoping and praying it's

benign. It feels gritty but so did my other large lump they felt last year that

I had all of the tests done and MRI and they told me it was benign...never did a

biopsy or took it out.

 

The doctor asked me if I drank a lot of coffee or ate chocolate. The funny thing

is that I started eating the " healthy chocolate " which is super high in

antioxidants, no table sugar and made with blueberries...so I haven't been sick

in over 2 years with a cold or flu, but I have developed these lumps. I wonder

if it's worth it. Is this really boosting my immune system as they say it does

from the dark chocolate if it's causing lumps?

 

I will cut down on the soy consumption. I was trying to give my gutt a break. I

have celiac sprue and the shakes seem to digest better, but I don't want to over

do it with so...so I will have to get even stricter with my diet. I haven't had

pizza, cookies, pie or cake in over 7 years and like I said before, I eat very

little foods with sugar. I walk or run everyday as well. I don't drink soda's

either.

 

I am anemic most of the time and major gutt issues. Gas, bloating and most

recently tailbone pain.

 

I can't think of anything else and again, thank you so much for any suggestions

you offer to someone who does not have insurance.

>Hi ,

>Thank you for your response. I have a lump in my breast that is

>mobile, about quarter size a little tender. Sister has breast cancer

>that they missed through all testing. I just found this lump. I go

>in for a mammogram on the 12th. I am 44 eat healthy, no white flour

>and food with very little to no sugar. I am using the sota magnetic

>pulser. I have started iodine drops. I am taking vitamin d 2,000

>iu/day and cottage cheese/flax. I do make soy shakes every day as

>well. Is there anything else I should be doing?

[Guest guest]

,

I see you are trapped in the no insurance situation.

First, ask your sister to have her BRCA status tested. For someone diagnosed

with breast cancer, insurance will pay as long as the doctor writes a note.

Also, your mom should have her BRCA status tested as well. This will help in

determining your next course of action.

Definitely get rid of the soy.

Yes, caffeine will make your fibrocystic breast worse.

I understand your fear of the mammogram and radiation!! However, a mammogram

found my cancer at stage 0 whereas an ultrasound and thermogram might not have.

If the county is offering freebies, they might be worth it at this point.

How old are you?

You know, perhaps the best way to go is to talk to your mom's or sister's

oncologists and have it arranged to have the lump removed. That's the only way

to determine if there is cancer or not. I don't know about costs, but you will

qualify for assistance through the hospital. (Don't pay for anything up front)

All my best.

ar

[Guest guest]

There are genuine concerns and now established that Mammograms often miss the

more serious cancers as was the case with my daughter-in-law. She had her

annual done revealing nothing and within a month discovered what she thought was

a very quick and annoying cyst. It turned out to be Breast Cancer and at stage

II and that after the physical palpitation by her physician and the Mammogram.

I realize all cancers are 'serious', however there are breast cancers and there

are breast cancers and some findings will never develop into anything life

threatening. At least this is what some findings are revealing. Then there

are the strange events where cancers disappear spontaneously and without

seemingly any reason. This is causing the conventional system to re-think

whether or not more 'observation' is needed rather than quick and aggressive

treatment. Not an easy decision.

In addition to the radiation there is always the risk of 'seeding' cells caused

by the pressure (vice).

In my case, different kind of exam, both the Urologist's Cystoscope and a

CT-Scan missed a bladder tumor so here we are, facing additional risks because

of testing and not sure that the test will pick up something or worse, pick up

something that might not be serious causing a lot of unnecessary treatments.

No easy decision and it is best left up to one's own mind and only after a full

assessment of all the facts. In my case, and I am not boasting, when the

Urologist wanted to do a 'Mapping' of my bladder taking a number of biopsies

from different locations I refused because of the potential for 'seeding' which

he readily admitted can happen.

Do you know what the percentage of people getting cancer from tests is?

100%..........for the poor soul it happens to. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

We each must make our own based upon what we want to do.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Could you please elaborate:

Do you know what the percentage of people getting cancer from tests is?

100%........ ..for the poor soul it happens to. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

We each must make our own based upon what we want to do. "

How can you verify this statement?

The medical establishment is so pround of itself that it is able to catch

cancers early. Certainly stage II can become Stage III, so isn't it best to

catch it before?

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From: JCastron1 <jcastron1@...>

Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:03:17 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: and Arlyn

 

There are genuine concerns and now established that Mammograms often miss the

more serious cancers as was the case with my daughter-in- law. She had her

annual done revealing nothing and within a month discovered what she thought was

a very quick and annoying cyst. It turned out to be Breast Cancer and at stage

II and that after the physical palpitation by her physician and the Mammogram. I

realize all cancers are 'serious', however there are breast cancers and there

are breast cancers and some findings will never develop into anything life

threatening. At least this is what some findings are revealing. Then there are

the strange events where cancers disappear spontaneously and without seemingly

any reason. This is causing the conventional system to re-think whether or not

more 'observation' is needed rather than quick and aggressive treatment. Not an

easy decision.

In addition to the radiation there is always the risk of 'seeding' cells caused

by the pressure (vice).

In my case, different kind of exam, both the Urologist's Cystoscope and a

CT-Scan missed a bladder tumor so here we are, facing additional risks because

of testing and not sure that the test will pick up something or worse, pick up

something that might not be serious causing a lot of unnecessary treatments. No

easy decision and it is best left up to one's own mind and only after a full

assessment of all the facts. In my case, and I am not boasting, when the

Urologist wanted to do a 'Mapping' of my bladder taking a number of biopsies

from different locations I refused because of the potential for 'seeding' which

he readily admitted can happen.

Do you know what the percentage of people getting cancer from tests is?

100%........ ..for the poor soul it happens to. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

We each must make our own based upon what we want to do.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Anybody ever checked into Gaston Naessens and his special microscope in

which he examines a person's blood and can detect tiny live particles which

he says cause various illnesses, including cancer? He has developed a

treatment that is injected into the lymph system, done at home by the patient,

for 21 days during which the blood and immune system return back to balance

and health and the illness, including cancer, is destroyed by the person's

own body. He calls this solution 714X.

M. Naessens is the only alternative practitioner that I have read about

who has actually cured cancer and who has not been totally eviscerated by the

medical community. He practices to this day. He is a French-born

scientist who lives in Quebec, Canada, but his treatment has been legally used

by

other doctors including within the U.S.

I read about him in the book, " Politics in Healing " and found on the

internet both his clinic and others who use his protocol. After dozens of

legal

challenges by Canadian medical authorities, he prevailed and today is

legally permitted to practice within a small section of Canada, so to enter his

site you have to click that you are not living in Canada. Check this out.

_ Best_ (http://www.billybest.net/) (One of the cases in the book,

a boy who was cured)

_CERBE Distribution inc._ (http://www.cerbe.com/) (The site of M.

Naessens himself. A letter he wrote to the Canadian Court)

_Gaston Naessens and Somatid biology_

(http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/naessen.htm)

[Guest guest]

I feel that I am uniquely qualified to talk about mammograms because my type of

cancer really can only be found through mammography. It was discovered at stage

0.

So, am I glad that it was found at stage 0? Yes. My stage 0 cancer was very

aggressive and it was only a matter of time before it would have become an

aggressive invasive cancer.

Do I have fears about mammography? Yes.

I feel that women really aren't being given a lot of good choices.

Mammography can miss many cancers. But I believe it catches a higher percentage

of cancers than the other methods of detection.

In younger women, due to dense breast tissue, mammography is less effective. So

women under age 40 should seek other alternatives.

Moving forward -

Ultrasounds are great. But they don't catch every cancer as well. Many women

have breast cancers that cannot be detected with u/s.

MRIs carry their own risk. I recently spoke to a woman who is in " MRI school. "

She said that the magnets do cause some problems but they are working on

creating MRIs that will be better for our bodies. I really have never heard

this before, so I'm not sure what to think of it. Also, the dye needed for the

breast MRIs can cause allergic reactions and problems with the kidneys, I

believe. Also, MRIs pick up every shadow, often leading to more biopsies that

aren't needed.

Thermography - good luck finding it in many cities. And though they say that

thermography can find cancers 10 years earlier than mammography can, well, don't

believe that. My mammogram found my cancer - which would not have shown up on a

thermogram.

So, women are left with very little sure choices. The best we can do is follow

our own best instincts. I really want to drop mammography, but I'm terrified to

do so. Knowing that it was the only thing that would have shown my

cancer...well, you can see my quandry.

I think that if I had a lump that needed checking, I would look at an ultrasound

first. Then try to get an MRI - most hospitals won't do them without some

really, really good reason. And then do a mammogram. But I would not rule out

cancer without having an mammogram if the other methods don't show anything

conclusive.

Truly, though, if you have a lump, have it removed. It's the only true way to

find out if it is cancer.

ar

[Guest guest]

When I asked the doctor if I could just skip mammogram and US because I knew

there was a lump here, she said " I don't know of any surgeons that will remove a

lump if it comes out to be benign...unless you want to pay an arm and a leg "

 

So for someone without insurance, the breast exam was free and so is the

mammogram...so I feel like what else can I do?

 

[Guest guest]

,

I don't believe that's true at all. I do know women who have lumps removed

because they can't be detected on the scanning equipment.

I may have missed your response, but how old are you?

ar

>

> When I asked the doctor if I could just skip mammogram and US because I knew

there was a lump here, she said " I don't know of any surgeons that will remove a

lump if it comes out to be benign...unless you want to pay an arm and a leg "

>  

> So for someone without insurance, the breast exam was free and so is the

mammogram...so I feel like what else can I do?

>  

>

[Guest guest]

44 with no insurance.

 

Last year I had a similar lump on the right about 4cm and it was benign.

 

This one is similar but I just don't like having these huge lumps in my breast.

 

How much do surgeons charged to get this done?

From: Arlyn <arlynsg@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: and Arlyn

Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 1:25 AM

 

,

I don't believe that's true at all. I do know women who have lumps removed

because they can't be detected on the scanning equipment.

I may have missed your response, but how old are you?

ar

>

> When I asked the doctor if I could just skip mammogram and US because I knew

there was a lump here, she said " I don't know of any surgeons that will remove a

lump if it comes out to be benign...unless you want to pay an arm and a leg "

>  

> So for someone without insurance, the breast exam was free and so is the

mammogram... so I feel like what else can I do?

>  

>

[Guest guest]

Years ago I was a surgical extern and " first assisted " on scores of

lumpectomies. With the patient under general anesthesia we waited

for the results of the frozen section to come back from pathology so

we could decide on doing a radical mastectomy. This is a very common

procedure. Insurance would rather pay for a lumpectomy than a

mastectomy. Your doctor is mistaken.

At 05:55 PM 8/7/2009, you wrote:

>

>When I asked the doctor if I could just skip mammogram and US

>because I knew there was a lump here, she said " I don't know of any

>surgeons that will remove a lump if it comes out to be

>benign...unless you want to pay an arm and a leg "

>

>So for someone without insurance, the breast exam was free and so is

>the mammogram...so I feel like what else can I do?

>

[Guest guest]

Please call your local American Cancer Society for help. Most hospitals will

write off most of the costs for uninsured patients. Also, you should be talking

to a breast surgeon, not an oncologist or other doctor. Only a breast surgeon

can determine what you need to do.

A mammogram cannot diagnose cancer. Only a tissue sample looked at carefully

can determine if you have cancer. You can have the mammogram, and they may be

able to tell right away if you have a significant problem or not. Or, they will

have you come back in six months to see if it has grown or changed. Or, they

will tell you to have a biopsy.

I believe my lumpectomy was $10,000.

You can also look for a thermography center. This will cost you about $170.

But, it may or may not put your mind at ease.

ar

>

> 44 with no insurance.

>  

> Last year I had a similar lump on the right about 4cm and it was benign.

>  

> This one is similar but I just don't like having these huge lumps in my

breast.

>  

> How much do surgeons charged to get this done?

>