Re: question to Elliot re Living with cancer 18+ years

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> Then click on " Cancer Survivors In Our Group " and THEN click on my name

How did you get your story into the files? Is there a special procedure?

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Hi.

I of course am sorry you were diagnosed with cancer, but am not sure I

understand what you are saying/asking. You seem to be saying you were

already doing all the things one needs to do so as not to get get

cancer, but that you quit smoking 3 weeks ago...?

Also, you appear to be saying you were involved in fire fighting. If

that is the case, and I certainly thank you and honor you for your

activities in the dangerous and very necessary jobs of law enforcement

and fire fighting, you might have inhaled smoke and other harmful stuff

that helped your body to develop cancer.

If you wish to read about my particular voyage with cancer, please

click on the FILES link in the blue box to the left and then click on

my name.

Very best wishes and best of health,

Elliot

You wrote:

> Elliot

> You said you have been fighting cancer for 15 or 18 years I believe. I have

been fighting it now for 3 and a half now. I had the surgery, radiation and

chemo twice and they admitted to me they did not get it all. I was given a 4%

chance to see Oct. 2007 yet am still here. I have been almost 3 weeks without

smoking now.

> What do you contribute to your success? Mine I attribute to God and His help

giving me and others the insight needed to fight and counter it. I had been VERY

active, being law enforcement and working on fires with my job. All the things

people say ,do to stay healthy and eat, to be healthy, I was already !!

>

[Guest guest]

Apologies for the instructions about finding information about my

living with cancer. You will need to click on " FILES, " or click

here /files/

Then click on " Cancer Survivors In Our Group " and THEN click on my name. (I do

not call myself a cancer " survivor, " by the way; I call myself a cancer " LIVER, "

as I am doing a great deal more than surviving. I certainly feel the need to

tell you that my diagnosis was low-grade lymphoma, and " indolent " type of

cancer, which is extraordinarily different than something like metastatic

breast cancer or than large cell lung cancer. Both of those are far more serious

diagnoses than my own. I do not want to mislead anyone with a more severe

diagnosis into asking him/herself, " What is HE doing that I'M not doing?! "

Certainly I have done extraordinarily well, and certainly I believe

many of the things I have done alternatively have helped

significantly. But it must be remembered that I was not dealing with

something like inoperable renal cell carcinoma or with pancreatic

cancer. I was and am dealing with a cancer which, if properly

treated, or, with regard to mainstream treatment, if treated as

little as possible, can give a person very long remissions, and even

enable a person to live out a normal life span. It appears to me that

those who do worse with a case of low-grade lymphoma are those who

allow mainstream MD's to treat the dis-ease aggressively, and who

trust implicitly in their oncologist rather than do all they can to

educate themselves about how best to live with the illness. That is

what I have done---I have tried to leave no stone unturned in

learning about what I can do live as healthfully and as long as

possible with low-grade lymphoma.

Best wishes and best of health,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi.

>

> I of course am sorry you were diagnosed with cancer, but am not sure I

> understand what you are saying/asking. You seem to be saying you were

> already doing all the things one needs to do so as not to get get

> cancer, but that you quit smoking 3 weeks ago...?

>

>It might surprise you but the smoking had nothing to do with my getting cancer

and the

location of it. My lungs had been clean and did not get the cancer until it

traveled through

the body after surgery.

I knew many people who smoked for years but died of old age, not cancer.

I guess I am asking if you have read about generational cancer and if there is

a way to cut

that link.

[Guest guest]

Hi.

The " generational " part of cancer...? Best thing I read on that was

when Matthias Rath said, " Genetics may load the gun,(it does not

always), but lifestyle pulls the trigger. " Having a genetic

predisposition to cancer does not at all means one will be dx'd with

the dis-ease. Living an anti-cancer lifestyle can go far toward

warding off the illness.

With regard to the rest of your reply, I have been thinking about how

to answer it so as not to cause offense or guilt. It appears to me

that to say smoking had nothing to do with the cancer and that one's

lungs were clean subsequent to smoking for any length of time is

overstating things. I believe it could well be that the immune system

had to work overtime cleaning the body of the contamination and

toxins from the smoking, so that it could have missed killing cancer

in another part of the body. And even if there was no cancer in the

lungs, they could hardly have been " clean. " They would certainly have

been dirty from the smoke/tar etc in the cigarette smoke.

To speak of " many people who smoked for years but who died of old

age " does no one any good, in my opinion, and can do many people who

smoke a great disservice by giving them just one more excuse not to

quit a very dangerous, very dirty, very expensive habit.

Respectfully and with best wishes,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi.

>

> The " generational " part of cancer...? Best thing I read on that was

> when Matthias Rath said, " Genetics may load the gun,(it does not

> always), but lifestyle pulls the trigger. " Having a genetic

> predisposition to cancer does not at all means one will be dx'd with

> the dis-ease. Living an anti-cancer lifestyle can go far toward

> warding off the illness.

I do agree some things do NOT help, but I still contend that there is more to

the bad

medical conditions than is on the surface. Such as the preservatives and bad

things in the

air that are produced by man. I am sure you have known people also that have

lived the

" healthy " life styles and maybe, such as is my case, have seen people die way

before they

should have that lived a " cleaner " life. This is why I try and open my eyes and

see more

than what is just in front of me. In many aspects, it just seems so many claim

they are

open minded yet they still think " inside the box " . I would think this group of

people

should be able to explore and think and not be dictated to. To question, to me,

is another

way of showing a person wants to learn even more, sometimes we just don't know

what to

ask to explore the journey. my respect to all who are willing to not put down

the next

person who asks, " WHY " !!

[Guest guest]

Hi, " linerider. " What is your name, please?

I am not understanding your reply. I certainly hope I did not dictate

to anyone or denegrate or insult anyone, including you, with my replies.

I apologize if anything in my replies was taken that way. It was

definitely not intended. I certainly value this group as much as anyone

with regard to exploring and asking questions.

Best wishes,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, " linerider. " What is your name, please?

>

> I am not understanding your reply. I certainly hope I did not dictate

> to anyone or denegrate or insult anyone, including you, with my replies.

>

> I apologize if anything in my replies was taken that way. It was

> definitely not intended. I certainly value this group as much as anyone

> with regard to exploring and asking questions.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Elliot

>

Elliot

My name is Ben and I live in Lassen county, Calif. It does seem at times

you think

your opinion is the only one that counts and you seem to scoff when others try

to explain

why they question things at times. There are times one questions as in musing

and

wondering if others have the same questions rattling around in their brains too.

I ask

questions at times, not to get a reply as much as to voice the question and see

if another

wonders too.