Re: thyroid nodules - Standard Process Thytrophin PMG thyroid support product?

[Guest guest]

Back when my MDs were pushing synthroid on me, I instead started using

Standard Process's Thytrophin PMG product.. it normalized my low

thyroid in about a month.. no synthroid for this kid.. SP product is a

broad range thyroid support product, not a replacement... Anybody used it?

Dave Felt

CF wrote:

> Greetings:

> I also have nodules on both sides of my neck. I was told by my

Endocrinologist that nodules can act like they are cancerous and NOT be

cancerous. I was hoarse, had trouble swallowing, pain in the throat and

exhausted but display none of that now, unless the stress gets great.

[Guest guest]

Dave,

I'm very interested in Standard Process. Do you use the Thytrophin PMG

product daily? I see it is made from Bovine thyroids, so not too

different from Armour, which is made from pig thyroids. Pig thyroids

are supposedly more like human thyroids. There was some talk a few

years ago with concerns of Mad Cow disease in bovine products, but I

think that was disapproved.

How do you know your levels are good?

ar

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:11:36 -0800, " Dave Felt " <feltdd@...>

said:

> Back when my MDs were pushing synthroid on me, I instead started using

> Standard Process's Thytrophin PMG product.. it normalized my low

> thyroid in about a month.. no synthroid for this kid.. SP product is a

> broad range thyroid support product, not a replacement... Anybody used

> it?

>

> Dave Felt

>

> CF wrote:

> > Greetings:

> > I also have nodules on both sides of my neck. I was told by my

Endocrinologist that nodules can act like they are cancerous and NOT be

cancerous. I was hoarse, had trouble swallowing, pain in the throat and

exhausted but display none of that now, unless the stress gets great.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, Dave, I hit send without actually finishing my thoughts.

The Thytrophin PMG IS a replacement product as you are using bovine

thyroid - which makes up the majority of the product. You are

replacing what your thyroid is not making by using dessicated cow

thyroid.

Synthroid is a synthetic hormone replacement, and a great thing for

vegans or vegetarians to use. Many use synthetics without any problems

at all. I am not one of them, unfortunately.

The real issue is how a person's body converts T4 to T3. Many people

have conversion problems - I do. Many do not. Anyway, the point is

that I hate to see Synthroid talked about negatively when it actually is

saving lives.

ar

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:20:17 -0500, " Arlyn Grant " <arlynsg@...>

said:

> Dave,

>

> I'm very interested in Standard Process. Do you use the Thytrophin PMG

> product daily? I see it is made from Bovine thyroids, so not too

> different from Armour, which is made from pig thyroids. Pig thyroids

> are supposedly more like human thyroids. There was some talk a few

> years ago with concerns of Mad Cow disease in bovine products, but I

> think that was disapproved.

>

> How do you know your levels are good?

>

> ar

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

[Guest guest]

Hi, Arlyn ..

My wife died when on Synthroid and an unknown heart medication. Many

people on Synthroid are on it the rest of their lives, with regular

co-pays at the MDs office and prescription costs... If other products

such as Thyrotrophin help standardize the thyroid, that seems a good thing.

In my case, the MD prescribed Synthroid because of one blood test

following a heart-related matter (I had gotten dehydrated, and in the

emergency room they used calcium (glucose?) to help stabilize the heart,

the side effect of which seems to have lowered my T4 levels, so..

Prescription time.)(I have also always been given calcium glucose when

I give plateletes..) For whatever its worth, my company's health care

plan requires mail order prescription-filling from some discounter - I

can't even go to the drug store and get the prescription filled anymore

(or pay the inflated non-program price..)

Synthroid may be a great product, but if it also helps turn off the

thyroid's normal production, which is often claimed of it, that is not

good. Something which " boosts " the thyroid activity and helps it get

working again has worked for me.

In my case, a month on the Standard Process product brought my blood T4

levels back to normal, and they've stayed there for years afterwards

without more supplementation. (Interestingly enough, it was first my

Chiropractor, before the heart incident, who told me my thyroid levels

were low - the MDs confirmed it with blood tests a week or two later.)

Dave

Arlyn Grant wrote:

> I'm sorry, Dave, I hit send without actually finishing my thoughts.

>

> The Thytrophin PMG IS a replacement product as you are using bovine

> thyroid - which makes up the majority of the product. You are

> replacing what your thyroid is not making by using dessicated cow

> thyroid.

>

> Synthroid is a synthetic hormone replacement, and a great thing for

> vegans or vegetarians to use. Many use synthetics without any problems

> at all. I am not one of them, unfortunately.

>

> The real issue is how a person's body converts T4 to T3. Many people

> have conversion problems - I do. Many do not. Anyway, the point is

> that I hate to see Synthroid talked about negatively when it actually is

> saving lives.

>

> ar

>

>

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:20:17 -0500, " Arlyn Grant " <arlynsg@...>

> said:

>

>> Dave,

>>

>> I'm very interested in Standard Process. Do you use the Thytrophin PMG

>> product daily? I see it is made from Bovine thyroids, so not too

>> different from Armour, which is made from pig thyroids. Pig thyroids

>> are supposedly more like human thyroids. There was some talk a few

>> years ago with concerns of Mad Cow disease in bovine products, but I

>> think that was disapproved.

>>

>> How do you know your levels are good?

>>

>> ar

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

I'm so sorry to hear about your wife.

It sounds to me as if your thyroid problem was temporary. As many are.

Yes, the purpose of thyroid hormone supplementation is to supplement

what the thyroid isn't making. Most of the time, once the thyroid

starts having trouble, it doesn't bounce back. I have been trying for

twelve years to fix mine, but it doesn't seem to be fixable. I'm hoping

that by working on my adrenals, my thyroid will normalize.

The product you are taking does not standardize the thyroid, but is

instead, a hormone replacement product. It is no different than

supplementing with any of the other hormone replacement treatments. As

such, it didn't boost your thyroid, it replaced the hormone missing

until your thyroid recovered from the trauma you experienced.

Things that boost your thyroid would include iodine. But, there is

controversy around that.

Synthroid, and other hormone supplement products don't actually turn off

the body from making hormone. If that were true, none of us would have

any thyroid function at all and our meds would have to be increased

frequently. Certainly, it must be that way for a few people, though.

But for many people, they remain on the same doseage for their entire

lives. It depends on what the thyroid disease actually is and also how

they take care of themselves.

ar

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:55:17 -0800, " Dave Felt " <feltdd@...>

said:

> Hi, Arlyn ..

>

> My wife died when on Synthroid and an unknown heart medication. Many

> people on Synthroid are on it the rest of their lives, with regular

> co-pays at the MDs office and prescription costs... If other products

> such as Thyrotrophin help standardize the thyroid, that seems a good

> thing.

>

> In my case, the MD prescribed Synthroid because of one blood test

> following a heart-related matter (I had gotten dehydrated, and in the

> emergency room they used calcium (glucose?) to help stabilize the heart,

> the side effect of which seems to have lowered my T4 levels, so..

> Prescription time.)(I have also always been given calcium glucose when

> I give plateletes..) For whatever its worth, my company's health care

> plan requires mail order prescription-filling from some discounter - I

> can't even go to the drug store and get the prescription filled anymore

> (or pay the inflated non-program price..)

>

> Synthroid may be a great product, but if it also helps turn off the

> thyroid's normal production, which is often claimed of it, that is not

> good. Something which " boosts " the thyroid activity and helps it get

> working again has worked for me.

>

> In my case, a month on the Standard Process product brought my blood T4

> levels back to normal, and they've stayed there for years afterwards

> without more supplementation. (Interestingly enough, it was first my

> Chiropractor, before the heart incident, who told me my thyroid levels

> were low - the MDs confirmed it with blood tests a week or two later.)

>

> Dave

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...