Re: modern vs. alternative medicine

[Guest guest]

------I'm curious about those who hate MD's and the medical profession

regarding what to do in an emergency. Do they carry special cards/bracelets

that read to the effect " In case of emergency don't take me to a hospital,

instead send me to the closest naturopath? " In the absence of that kind of

message and these kind of folks wake up in an emergency room, what will their

reaction be? I don't take their hatred of the AMA very seriously.----- I am

sure they would be very gratful to still be alive. I have several family

members who are still alive today because of the advances that have been made in

medicine...I also have several family members (a couple of them are the same

people) who have nearly (and who have actually) lost their lives due to medial

ignorance. I have family who have been outright harmed by medical

intervention/invention (putting my own iron supplement story aside - my

cousin's nervous system is now permanently damaged from a vaccination he

received as an infant and a father who's brain has been altered in unknown ways

because of psychosurgical experiments that used to be done for " behavior

modification " ). The " knife " cuts both ways when it comes to supporting or

deriding both modern or alternative medical approaches. They both have their

usefulness and they both have their problems. Keep an open mind and do your

homework. I try to do only what feels right for me and respect the choices

other have made for themselves...even it is not the choice I feel I would have

made. Granted some do not have that choice, but for the most part we do...and I

intend to take full advantage of the choices I do have. Closed minded

approaches from either side of the issue can only hurt, not help. With much

respect to both sides of the issue, Christa

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[Guest guest]

I do not think you need to go the MD for any thing and everything.

But there are times when it is the best way and the most necessary

way.

Broken bones, deep cuts that need stitches, bad accidents, etc.ok.

But to go for most other things (sicknesses) I think you have abetter

chance of survival the natural way.

>

> ------I'm curious about those who hate MD's and the medical

profession regarding what to do in an emergency. Do they carry

special cards/bracelets that read to the effect " In case of emergency

don't take me to a hospital, instead send me to the closest

naturopath> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm having a hard time seeing where your posts start.

----- Original Message -----

From: " chris bennett " <lochmabon@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:34 AM

Subject: Re: modern vs. alternative medicine

>

> ------I'm curious about those who hate MD's and the medical profession

regarding what to do in an emergency. Do they carry special cards/bracelets

that read to the effect " In case of emergency don't take me to a hospital,

instead send me to the closest naturopath? " In the absence of that kind of

message and these kind of folks wake up in an emergency room, what will

their

> reaction be? I don't take their hatred of the AMA very seriously.----- I

am sure they would be very gratful to still be alive. I have several family

members who are still alive today because of the advances that have been

made in medicine...I also have several family members (a couple of them are

the same people) who have nearly (and who have actually) lost their lives

due to medial ignorance. I have family who have been outright harmed by

medical intervention/invention (putting my own iron supplement story aside -

my cousin's nervous system is now permanently damaged from a vaccination he

received as an infant and a father who's brain has been altered in unknown

ways because of psychosurgical experiments that used to be done for

" behavior modification " ). The " knife " cuts both ways when it comes to

supporting or deriding both modern or alternative medical approaches. They

both have their usefulness and they both have their problems. Keep an open

mind and do your homework. I try to do only what feels right for me and

respect the choices other have made for themselves...even it is not the

choice I feel I would have made. Granted some do not have that choice, but

for the most part we do...and I intend to take full advantage of the choices

I do have. Closed minded approaches from either side of the issue can only

hurt, not help. With much respect to both sides of the issue, Christa

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

he DOCTOR YOURSELF NEWSLETTER Vol 2, No 14, May 24, 2002

" Free of charge, free of advertising, and free of the A.M.A. "

A very nice newsletter and write-up, Agnes.

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

At 16:28 14.05.2002 +0000, you wrote:

>I do not think you need to go the MD for any thing and everything.

" One grandmother is worth two M.D.s. " Mendelsohn, M.D.

The DOCTOR YOURSELF NEWSLETTER Vol 2, No 14, May 24, 2002

" Free of charge, free of advertising, and free of the A.M.A. "

Written by Saul, PhD. of http://www.doctoryourself.com , a free

online library of over 350 natural healing articles with nearly 4,000

scientific references.

ALTERNATIVE HEALTH vs. ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE: Big Difference

Complimentary Medicine, or Alternative Medicine sure sounds good. It sounds

like progressive, real health-care reform. " Alt Med " seems like an ideal

marriage of the best of the old and the new, the scientific and the

holistic, the technological and the natural, the doctor and the patient.

But for those of us who favor wellness self-reliance, it is a far cry from

Alternative HEALTH. Alternative Health is different, first in the obvious

way: the word medicine is not there. That means the medical and

pharmaceutical professions are cut out. And since they don't want that, this

is why they are willing to accept some of the " natural " stuff as long as

they maintain control the writing of prescriptions and the filling of

prescriptions.

But they will not support you when you go off on your own, to your own

garden or to your local health food store or to your own library or Internet

research.

If you've ever met a plumber or electrician or appliance repairman or auto

mechanic who said, " Here: let me show YOU how to do this " then you have been

singularly fortunate. Rare as this experience may be, it is infinitely

rarer for a health professional to teach you exactly how to dispense with

their services. An underlying assumption implicit in fee-for-service medical

care is that you CAN'T do what the doctor does, dummy, and you are a fool

for thinking you can.

I disagree.

Decades ago I once was stranded out-of-state with all my car's radiator

fluid bleeding out around me, staining the parking lot nicely green. It was

Sunday, I could not find a mechanic who would come to the car, and I had no

money for a tow or, for that matter, for an overnight stay to wait for the

job to be eventually attended to. So I pleaded with, and ultimately

convinced a gas station attendant to loan me a few tools and drop a hint

about how to replace coolant hoses. Might sound like small potatoes to you,

but I was a 19 year old egghead and up until then had never worked under a

car in my life. The prospect actually frightened me.

But I learned that desperation and elbow grease will loosen even the frayed

plumbing of a big old Ford. I replaced the hose. (The large-diameter one, at

the very bottom. What a mess.) I filled the radiator; I returned the tools;

I drove away.

By golly, it worked.

Not long ago I discovered that you can call some appliance factories and,

for a fee, they will walk you thorough the repair over the phone. Outback

Australian children have been taught by radio for decades. I am convinced

that doctors could do this with us, by radio for free or by phone for a fee.

I've been saying for years how much I'd like to see neighbor hood health

instruction co-ops

( http://doctoryourself.com/motherearth.html )

Car self-repair, appliance self-repair and health self-repair require a

common attitude: " This is learnable, this is doable, and I can learn to do

it. "

Then consider the financial aspects of all this: what if we were determined

to pretty much do without doctors? Alt Med Assumption: Certainly we can't.

Alt Health assumption: Maybe we can. The difference? The health homesteader

takes back control. No longer a patient, the health homesteader gains

knowledge, experience and self-reliance, in that order.

Now don't go off saying that this is silly, breathlessly citing crisis care

as requiring physicians. It is granted that there are times when we

absolutely do indeed require a professional. But we can act to greatly

reduce the frequency of those times, far beyond what we've been told.

The word " Doctor " is derived form the Latin word for " teacher. " If your

physician is a good health coach, great. If he is not, then you absolutely

need to doctor (teach) yourself.

Here is a quick way to evaluate your doctor's alternative HEALTH potential.

Ask her if she agrees with this statement:

" There is a natural substitute for nearly every drug. I do not want to use

nutrition and vitamin supplements along with drugs. I want to use them

INSTEAD of drugs. "

If your doctor is intolerant of such a position, or simply not up to speed,

you can help fill the void with the following information.

POWERFUL WEAPONS AGAINST DISEASE

VITAMIN C in sufficient quantity can substitute for antibiotics, antivirals,

antitoxics, antipyretics (fever-reducers) antihistamines, and

corticosteroids such as Prednisone.

http://doctoryourself.com/titration.html

http://doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html

http://doctoryourself.com/vitaminc.html

http://doctoryourself.com/vitaminc2.html

http://doctoryourself.com/ortho_c.html

http://doctoryourself.com/klenner_table.html

http://doctoryourself.com/immune.html

NIACIN substitutes for various tranquilizers, sleeping pills,

antidepressants and antipsychotic medications.

http://doctoryourself.com/hoffer_niacin.html

http://doctoryourself.com/hoffer_anecdote.html

http://doctoryourself.com/niacin.html

http://www.doctoryourself.com/psychiatry.html

http://doctoryourself.com/hoffer_psychosis.html

The team of Vitamin E, coenzyme Q10, stress reduction, vegetarian diet and

minerals such as magnesium beat any a cardiovascular drug on the market.

Angina:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/angina.html

Arrythmia:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/hearta.html

Congestive Heart Failure

http://doctoryourself.com/congestive.html

High Blood Pressure:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/hypertension.html

Dr. Abram Hoffer's comments on cardiovascular disease:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_shute.html

[Guest guest]

>>The " knife " cuts both ways when it comes to supporting or deriding both

>>modern or alternative medical approaches. They both have their usefulness

>>and they both have their problems. Keep an open mind and do your

>>homework.<<

Well said.

Debra

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