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Hi Caroline,

Can't help too much on the Vancomycin, but Dr Usman prescribed Callum

Nystatin on our last phone consultation.

Nothing too wrong in that, but when I got the USA script and tried to

get it in UK it was for 500,000UI at 3 times a day for 3 months.

Our GP (well one of them at least) is quite helpful and has prescribe

us 100,000UI (which is the strongest he can offer!!) at 3 times a day

for 1 month (but says he will repeat if needed).

Not started it so far - too many other things to go at, but gradually

running out of supplements ;-)

BTW: Just started (yesterday night) with some Authia cream (also

suggested, by Dr Usman twice a day) and put about 1/5th teaspoon on

the backs of his legs and rubbed in with a spoon. Callum was

wriggling all over - he's rather ticklish and it smells really strong

(like garlic I'd say??)

Anyway last night / this morning Callum got us up at 2AM!! and

couldn't settle him down. I got in with him to calm him down, but

after a few minutes he was jumping out of bed terrified of shadows and

looking all around him and spinning around and sitting on chairs with

his feet lifted way off the floor.

I stayed up with him until 5:30am, then Jo got up with him while I had

an few hours. Anyway later this morning he was still doing the same

periodically.

I was wondering if this is a typical reaction to the Authia cream? I

am careful to just introduce one thing at one - so nothing else has

changed recently - just the Authia cream? Maybe I've given him too

large a dose?

Any ideas or comments?

Thanks,

Steve, Joanne, Callum & Ellie-Mae

- XXXX -

> Hi All

> You know I said Dr Usman has recommended Vancomycin 100mg three time

s aday

> for 10 days for the Clostridial overgrowth, has anyone ever used

this?? I

> spoke with my GP about this today. I am originally way back in the

mists of time

> a microbiologist so quite worried as this is one of the strongest

antibiotics

> around - pretty strong stuff. Any feedback appreciated

> Luv

> Caroline

> xxx

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Caroline, we've had this prescribed a couple of times and it's hard to get here because in the UK it's given by IV. You'll probably need a hospital pharmacy to make it up for you. I don't know what to say about whether it makes sense to use something so strong. It'll be important though after giving whatever antibiotic you do give for clostridia to give culturelle or similar for 2-3 weeks later to get the spores of the clostridia, which apparently the vanco doesn't get. The small things they don't tell us!

Abigail

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Hi All

You know I said Dr Usman has recommended Vancomycin 100mg three time s aday for 10 days for the Clostridial overgrowth, has anyone ever used this?? I spoke with my GP about this today. I am originally way back in the mists of time a microbiologist so quite worried as this is one of the strongest antibiotics around - pretty strong stuff. Any feedback appreciated

Luv

Caroline

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Hi Caroline,

We have used it; I bought it from a pharmacy in Belgium, it is very

expensive. There was no major pb with using this, no more than

Flagyl. I have not been able to test the clostridia again after this but

the metabolites on the OAT tests went right down. Dr McCandless

recommends a generic Vancomycin (not sure if generic is the right

word, I mean Vancomycin, but not the same brand, way cheaper)

but I can't remember how it was called. I got it prescribed from a

practitioner in France; I would not even dear asking for it in UK.

Good luck though!

Lorene

On 10 May 05, at 16:27, CarolineTraa@... wrote:

> Hi All

> You know I said Dr Usman has recommended Vancomycin 100mg three time s aday

> for 10 days for the Clostridial overgrowth, has anyone ever used this?? I

> spoke with my GP about this today. I am originally way back in the mists of

time

> a microbiologist so quite worried as this is one of the strongest antibiotics

> around - pretty strong stuff. Any feedback appreciated

> Luv

> Caroline

> xxx

>

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hi Lorene,

I am in UK - why would you not ask for it? I ask because if the nystatin/probiotice do not work, we may go for vanco.

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Hi Caroline,We have used it; I bought it from a pharmacy in Belgium, it is very expensive. There was no major pb with using this, no more than Flagyl. I have not been able to test the clostridia again after this but the metabolites on the OAT tests went right down. Dr McCandless recommends a generic Vancomycin (not sure if generic is the right word, I mean Vancomycin, but not the same brand, way cheaper) but I can't remember how it was called. I got it prescribed from a practitioner in France; I would not even dear asking for it in UK. Good luck though!LoreneOn 10 May 05, at 16:27, CarolineTraa@... wrote:> Hi All> You know I said Dr Usman has recommended Vancomycin 100mg three time s aday > for 10 days for the Clostridial overgrowth, has anyone ever used this?? I > spoke with my GP about this today. I am originally way back in the mists of time > a microbiologist so quite worried as this is one of the strongest antibiotics > around - pretty strong stuff. Any feedback appreciated> Luv> Caroline> xxx>

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Hi, yes we did a 14 day course last autumn and it worked very well.

Charlie's OAT test showed he has a real problem with clostridia and at

the time he started stimming for England. We haven't had to use it

since because he is on nystatin 3 times a day to hopefully keep the

bad bacteria under control. We used it on our DAN dr's advice.

Peta-

-- In Autism Treatment , " bostfeld " <batel@...>

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> Has someone here used Vancomycin to treat bacteria ?

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-Did you give it as an oral solution?

I got prescription for oral solution and it is only found in capsules

or IV in the UK.

How did you manage to give it orally?

Do you remember what was the dosage?

Thanks

-- In Autism Treatment , " peta_catherine "

<peta_catherine@...> wrote:

>

> Hi, yes we did a 14 day course last autumn and it worked very well.

> Charlie's OAT test showed he has a real problem with clostridia and

at

> the time he started stimming for England. We haven't had to use it

> since because he is on nystatin 3 times a day to hopefully keep the

> bad bacteria under control. We used it on our DAN dr's advice.

> Peta-

>

>

> -- In Autism Treatment , " bostfeld " <batel@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Has someone here used Vancomycin to treat bacteria ?

> >

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Hi, yes we gave it orally - 2.5ml 3 times a day. Charlie drinks

rocks org lemon squash so we hid it in that - ( it smells awful). I

was surprised he took it but he also has eye q in squash which is

yuk.

We got it on prescription from the States - very expensive - $220

for 2 week course but it did work.

Peta

-- In Autism Treatment , " bostfeld "

<batel@...> wrote:

>

> -Did you give it as an oral solution?

> I got prescription for oral solution and it is only found in

capsules

> or IV in the UK.

> How did you manage to give it orally?

> Do you remember what was the dosage?

> Thanks

>

> -- In Autism Treatment , " peta_catherine "

> <peta_catherine@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi, yes we did a 14 day course last autumn and it worked very

well.

> > Charlie's OAT test showed he has a real problem with clostridia

and

> at

> > the time he started stimming for England. We haven't had to use

it

> > since because he is on nystatin 3 times a day to hopefully keep

the

> > bad bacteria under control. We used it on our DAN dr's advice.

> > Peta-

> >

> >

> > -- In Autism Treatment , " bostfeld "

<batel@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Has someone here used Vancomycin to treat bacteria ?

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Peta,

Thanks for the info.

Did you need to get a prescriotion from a doctor in the states?

I am asking because we have a prescription from Dr. Heard (UK) which

as far as I understand cant be used in the states since he has not

got an american licence.

The IV version is so complicated and difficult to admin orally...

Thanks again

> > > >

> > > > Has someone here used Vancomycin to treat bacteria ?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi, yes the prescription was from our dr in the States.

Our dr cannot give us a presription for stuff here so it's annoying

and unfortunately works both ways

Peta-

-- In Autism Treatment , " bostfeld "

<batel@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Peta,

> Thanks for the info.

> Did you need to get a prescriotion from a doctor in the states?

> I am asking because we have a prescription from Dr. Heard (UK)

which

> as far as I understand cant be used in the states since he has not

> got an american licence.

> The IV version is so complicated and difficult to admin orally...

> Thanks again

>

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Has someone here used Vancomycin to treat bacteria ?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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In a message dated 08/03/2006 17:33:11 GMT Standard Time, acmpope@... writes:

Mandi I am interested that you are so keen on Saccro B – it sent our little boy crackers when we went on an aggressive regime of it, but perhaps the prescription medicines will set him up a little better in order to benefit from Saccro B.

>>>First time we used it it sent Sam bonkers - I went straight in with a full cap because they looked so small LOL. The Nutrilink peeps started my firends son on 1/4 cap per day for 3 months. We had to work up slowly. The 5 caps was a suggestion from Cally as it works well for her lass, and voila or luck has it, works for Sam too :) Very strong stuff, needs to be respected, helps with bacteria too I don't know why but it does

We need to talk about Anju and next Feb :)

Mandi x

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Bonkers in what way? Tom still Mr LIght and Shade. Bad melt downs

yesterday - and it's not a chelation time (he's on one drop each 8

hours Wed, Thurs and Fri)

>

>

> In a message dated 08/03/2006 17:33:11 GMT Standard Time,

> acmpope@... writes:

>

> Mandi I am interested that you are so keen on Saccro B †" it

sent our little

> boy crackers when we went on an aggressive regime of it, but

perhaps the

> prescription medicines will set him up a little better in order

to benefit from

> Saccro B.

>

>

> >>>First time we used it it sent Sam bonkers - I went straight in

with a

> full cap because they looked so small LOL. The Nutrilink peeps

started my

> firends son on 1/4 cap per day for 3 months. We had to work up

slowly. The 5 caps

> was a suggestion from Cally as it works well for her lass, and

voila or luck

> has it, works for Sam too :) Very strong stuff, needs to be

respected, helps

> with bacteria too I don't know why but it does

>

> We need to talk about Anju and next Feb :)

>

> Mandi x

>

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Can I ask who advised you on the homeopathic detox? Thanks Alison Pope <acmpope@...> wrote: After nearly 5 years at this, we are now “driving a truck through some outstanding issues” – with Dr Usman we are currently doing 14 days of Sporanox for yeast, then 10 days of Flagyll for gut bugs and in case of clostridia,

and then we are going to do 3 months of Vancomycin for viral issues including strep, polio, and HHV6 After that we will then do sequential homoeopathic detox in order to help the body more naturally to correct itself and keep the baddies away. Great advice about propping things up with probiotics – and also Dr Usman recommends the use of natural anti virals and antifungals in conjunction with a regime of prescription anti fungals and anti bacterials. Mandi I am interested that you are so keen on Saccro B – it sent our little boy crackers when we went on an aggressive regime of it, but perhaps the prescription medicines will set him up a little better in order to benefit from

Saccro B. Dr Usman was perfectly content that we carried on with Klaire Therbiotic Complete, and Klaire Detox Support and Primal Defense in some sort of rotation for probiotics. Don’t even ask about the cost of all this, it nearly sent me over the edge, perhaps explains why I have been more than a little quiet on the biomed front for a while. I am beginning to lose enthusiasm to be honest.

Hope this helps someone.

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In a message dated 08/03/2006 19:48:11 GMT Standard Time, mark.grabiec@... writes:

Bonkers in what way? Tom still Mr LIght and Shade. Bad melt downs yesterday - and it's not a chelation time (he's on one drop each 8 hours Wed, Thurs and Fri)

>>>Bonkers = wild eyes, taking risks, rash+++, in retropect die off

Mandi x

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After nearly 5 years at this, we are now “driving a truck through some outstanding issues” – with Dr Usman we are currently doing 14 days of Sporanox for yeast, then 10 days of Flagyll for gut bugs and in case of clostridia, and then we are going to do 3 months of Vancomycin for viral issues including strep, polio, and HHV6

But Vancomycin does not take polio and HHV6 !?

Geir Flatabø

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In a message dated 2/17/08 1:53:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

blisbomber@... writes:

> If you must use an antibitic, consider vancomycin

WRONG! This is OTOTOXIC! Use something that isn't.

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