fluke

[Guest guest]

Hi Hanna:

You wrote:

" barry made a comment about hulda clark's information being innacurate

regarding intestinal fluke. something to the extent that they are only from

asia. paraphrase-- do i have this right? "

I'm the one who wrote that the fluke that says is inside all cancer is

regionalized to SE Asia. From 's TCFAD page 33: " Fasciolopsis buskii is

the fluke (flatworm) that I find in every case of cancer, HIV infection,

Alzheimers, Crohn's disase, Kaposi's, endometriosis, and in many people

without these diseases.... "

From: http://www.cdfound.to.it/HTML/fas2.htm

" Fasciolopsis buski: is endemic in China, Taiwan, South-East Asia,

Malaysia and India. "

" F.buski is the human largest intestinal fluke. The adult measures 2-7,5 cm

by 0.8-2 cm by 0,5-3 mm and lives in the small intestine and occasionally in

the colon and the pylorus attached to the mucosa. Light infection are

usually asymptomatic, but heavily infected individuals may present abdominal

pain, diarrhea, malabsorption, toxemia. "

In the various stages of the F. buski, it is required to spend time outside

of the body of a human or a pig in order to complete its life cycle. In

other words, this fluke cannot reproduce all the phases of its life cycle

within the human body. It is found only in the regions mentioned above, or

enters people who have traveled through that area of the world.

No fasciolopsis buski (or buskii, as spells it) have ever been found in

cancer in humans in No. America or Europe.

If you have passed flukes, then either they are not the kind that is

describing, or you should take them directly to her so that she can finally

have something to display to the world. So far, she hasn't.

Jay

[Guest guest]

barry made a comment about hulda clark's information being innacurate regarding

intestinal fluke. something to the extent that they are only from asia.

paraphrase-- do i have this right?

i have never been to asia, and have passed hundreds of intestinal flukes. along

with hundreds of ascaris. some of them over 2 feet in length. i do think that

alot of dr clark's assumptions are b.s. concering the presence of parasites. my

health is not improved after the passing of these parasites. so i think she has

it wrong about them being the cause of disease. rather i think they are a

symptom of disease. i began passing parasites a few weeks after i had my

amalgams replaced 8 years ago. so i think there is some relationship. exactly

what the relationship is, i don't know. i think zapping is b.s. there are alot

better ways to rid oneself of parasites, if you want to obsess about them. but

i do like what she has to say about chemicals and metals. and i do like her

repackaging of this liver cleansing folk remedy. i think she got it from hanna

kroeger.

[Guest guest]

> From: JayTownsend@a...

> No fasciolopsis buski (or buskii, as spells it) have ever been found in

cancer in humans in No. America or Europe.

How do you know that, Jay?

Have you personally checked them all?

Such sweeping absurd generalizations make me wonder if you are " the "

Barrett himself?

[Guest guest]

have never understood why people resort to absurd statements like this

when they don't like what someone has to say. I don't believe that you

truky think that Jay is Barrett. You are just trying to ruffle his

feathers. What a shame.

Please, let's don't ruffle your feathers.

[Guest guest]

wrote:

" " > From: JayTownsend@a...

> No fasciolopsis buski (or buskii, as spells it) have ever been found

in cancer in humans in No. America or Europe.

How do you know that, Jay?

Have you personally checked them all?

Such sweeping absurd generalizations make me wonder if you are " the "

Barrett himself? " "

It is a very sweeping statement, and it is true!

, please take a look at the map at the following website, it contains the

area, in red, which is the only place in the entire world where the

fasciolopsis buski are found. This site is maintained by Ohio State

University, and many of the statements are made by Dr. P.W. Pappas, a

parasitologist, not an M. D. He was also an expert witness in the lawsuit

that you incorrectly identified as Barrett's " failed " or " thrown out "

lawsuit. The site you listed was in fact the trial of the FDA against a

Blaine Washington Zapper sales organization. And, the FDA won.

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~kkolas/fluke.html

Regarding the fasciolopsis buski's association with cancer, AIDS or anything

else this is what Dr. Pappas has to say:

" Fasciolopsis buski, the human intestinal fluke, is an organism that is

endemic in several southeast and south asian countries (e.g. China, Taiwan,

India, Bangladesh, Thailand). There is no scientific evidence that the

intestinal fluke is distributed world-wide, nor is there any evidence that

the organism (or its life stages) is present in cases of cancer or AIDS. The

definitive hosts for F. buski are humans and pigs. Infections can be

diagnosed by isolating eggs from an infected person's feces. "

, endemic means " restricted or peculiar to a locality or region <endemic

diseases> <an endemic species>. " That means it ain't found outside of that

little red area of Asia. Pappas even says that there isn't any evidence that

it " is present in cases of cancer or AIDS. " None, zero, zilch, nada - not

even in that area of SE Asia where these little rascals live! What more

evidence do you need .

Pappas goes on to say: " F. buski is a very large organism, measuring up to 7

centimeters (2.5 inches) long. It is not possible that oncologists and

pathologist have somehow missed these infections on post mortems of cancer

victims. Yet Hulda claims she sees F. buski or F. buski life stages in

ALL cancer cases. "

A 2 ½ inch critter in a removed cancer would be rather difficult to miss.

Pappas says " IT IS NOT POSSIBLE that oncologists and pathologists

have...missed these... " - Which is what I said and is repeated by

parasitologists and other scientists throughout the world.

If you go to:

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clarkaff/pappas.html

you will find detailed statements by Pappas in relation to many erroneous

statements by , including this one:

" 14. There is overwhelming evidence in the form of peer-reviewed articles

appearing in scientific journals that virtually all types of cancer result

from the uncontrolled division of cells, and that the uncontrolled division

of cells has a genetic basis. That is, cancer is caused by the activation or

inactivation of specific genes that control the division of cells; it is not

caused by a parasite. If this parasite truly causes cancer and, therefore,

kills thousands of people each year, how could this parasite go unnoticed?

Even in areas of the world where Fasciolopsis buski is endemic, there are no

published studies that demonstrate (1) a relationship between this parasite

and cancer and (2) that curing this parasite cures cancer. The only studies

that support these theories are those mentioned in 's books, and her

studies lack scientific integrity. Similarly, there is overwhelming evidence

that AIDS is caused by HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), not a parasite. "

In the site with the map is a quote from an alternative health practitioner:

" What is lacking in all this is not only logic, but any data to support Hulda

's contention that she can cure cancer. I once requested from a major

promoter the names of people who had been cured of cancer by her

method. The only reply I got was a fax from a kindly old gentleman who told

me that he " knew " he had cancer from the small bore (diameter) of his bowel

movements. On his own, he began treatment with Hulda 's three-herb

program. After taking the treatment, he exulted, " I pooped like a horse! "

That is what passes for proof of " the cure for all cancers. "

-from pg. 212, " Herbs Against Cancer: History and Controversy " copyright 1998

Ralph Moss, Ph.D.

There are many other sites that are not authored by Barrett that state that

's ideas are not valid. Remember, it is reported that 's own

brother died from cancer, even after being treated by Hulda. Quite an item

to tack onto your resume - eh what?

as you continue to try and put me down personally, I relish it because

when you do that I know that you don't have one shred of physical evidence

that 's fluke theory of disease (or gallstones) has any merit. The

supporters have always used name calling (Tim Bolin's sites are full of

it) instead of any evidence supporting 's claims.

Jay

[Guest guest]

>>Such sweeping absurd generalizations make me wonder if you are " the "

Barrett himself?<<

I have never understood why people resort to absurd statements like this

when they don't like what someone has to say. I don't believe that you

truky think that Jay is Barrett. You are just trying to ruffle his

feathers. What a shame.

Debra

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[Guest guest]

Arthur,

Wasn't me. I've never had that problem and haven't been to Asia, yet.

Barry.

> barry made a comment about hulda clark's information being

innacurate regarding intestinal fluke. something to the extent that

they are only from asia. paraphrase-- do i have this right?

>

> i have never been to asia, and have passed hundreds of intestinal

flukes. along with hundreds of ascaris. some of them over 2 feet in

length. i do think that alot of dr clark's assumptions are b.s.

concering the presence of parasites. my health is not improved after

the passing of these parasites. so i think she has it wrong about

them being the cause of disease. rather i think they are a symptom of

disease. i began passing parasites a few weeks after i had my

amalgams replaced 8 years ago. so i think there is some relationship.

exactly what the relationship is, i don't know. i think zapping is

b.s. there are alot better ways to rid oneself of parasites, if you

want to obsess about them. but i do like what she has to say about

chemicals and metals. and i do like her repackaging of this liver

cleansing folk remedy. i think she got it from hanna kroeger.

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