Re: Breast Cancer Cause Solved: Dental Industry is to blame

[Guest guest]

I find this sort of stuff to be pure bunk.

Truly, any time someone claims they know the cause of cancer, the cure

of cancer, and there are NO EXCEPTIONS, you should run far, far away.

The article below also says they have thermography that can detect

cancer anywhere in the body. Really? Because thermography can NOT

detect cancer everywhere in the body. Nor, can it detect all kinds of

cancer.

ar

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:52:40 +0800, " Edwin Casimero "

<eesc@...> said:

> Breast Cancer Cause Solved: Dental Industry is to blame

>

> OneRadioNetwork.com interviewed Dr. Dowling, the founder of

> CancerCured.com and they have a big bus going around the USA with a

> website advertising CancerCured.org. This is an in-your-face statement

> for those who still believe in the myth that there is no cure for

> cancer. From their website: Breast Cancer Mystery Solved: We know the

> cause, We know the cure, We know the prevention, We have found NO

> EXCEPTIONS.

>

> Read the rest of this entry »

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[Guest guest]

Ar is right!

Johanne

From: Arlyn Grant

Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:28 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Breast Cancer Cause Solved: Dental Industry is to

blame

I find this sort of stuff to be pure bunk.

Truly, any time someone claims they know the cause of cancer, the cure

of cancer, and there are NO EXCEPTIONS, you should run far, far away.

The article below also says they have thermography that can detect

cancer anywhere in the body. Really? Because thermography can NOT

detect cancer everywhere in the body. Nor, can it detect all kinds of

cancer.

ar

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:52:40 +0800, " Edwin Casimero "

<eesc@...> said:

> Breast Cancer Cause Solved: Dental Industry is to blame

>

> OneRadioNetwork.com interviewed Dr. Dowling, the founder of

> CancerCured.com and they have a big bus going around the USA with a

> website advertising CancerCured.org. This is an in-your-face statement

> for those who still believe in the myth that there is no cure for

> cancer. From their website: Breast Cancer Mystery Solved: We know the

> cause, We know the cure, We know the prevention, We have found NO

> EXCEPTIONS.

>

> Read the rest of this entry »

>

>

http://www.curemanual.com/blog/2008/11/breast-cancer-cause-solved-dental-industr\

y-is-to-blame/

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yeah! I googled " Dr. Hulda " even and discovered that a family had sold

their home in order to pay Dr. money to help save their son. Even when he

was obviously dying, she was still insistent that her protocol would work. They

dropped over $30,000 on the house. The son died.

 

I think that these people mean well when they start out. But I think the whole

glory and greed thing takes over and then it's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. I DO believe

that pathogens in the body can be ONE cause of cancer, but then why doesn't

EVERYONE who has metal in their mouth get cancer? Huh? And then there is all the

in-fighting among the alternative vfolks:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/clark04.htm.

 

The approach I take is I take the good and leave the rest behind. I am going to

go on Hulda 's protocol. I am grateful for the knowledge in her book and

her willingness to share it. The fact that she has gotten filthy rich off her

book and her products is on her. I am not buying my products from her. I am

buying 99% of them off of www.iherb.com. She's not getting rich off of me, yet

she helped me. I spent maybe $40 on her books years ago.

  

Apparently, The CCC - the CANCER CASH COW - is how many folks make their living.

Some make a little. Some make a lot. I believe in making ENOUGH to support

yourself and to set aside some for a rainy day. But how much do people really

need? So, if people are becoming millionaires off of folks like you and

me--regardless of whether they are mainstream or alternative---then why can't we

figure out how to do this stuff ourselves? Figure out how to make your own

herbal remedies. Purchase books on herbal infusions. FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELVES.

Most of this stuff is not rocket science.

 

Look at me---I am headed out of town next week-end on a plane I booked last

night to learn how to do a procedure that was costing me $160 a shot. All it

will cost me now is the cost of the oxygen and I can do it EVERYDAY, which will

be 10x as effective, if not more. And I am saving thousands of dollars. And you

guys supported me in this decision. I will always be grateful to the survivors

and supporters who cared about me. Thank you ALL.

 

There are good doctors and naturopaths, who really do help others. I went to see

an MD yesterday, who is trained in anthroposophic medicine. She is a family

physician, trained at the University of Vermont Medical School and also

Providence Hospital in Portland, Oregon. She used a pendulum yesterday to figure

out which nutritional supplements to use for me and my particular cancer. What

was the charge for a one hour visit plus three types of subcutaneous injectibles

in glass vials and two additional creams, plus all the syringes and needles

needed to inject myself? $271!!  I left her office with a pounce in my step. Her

heart center is balanced between healing and asking a fair price to others.

Sure, she lives in a nice house. I think that is wonderful. But she didn't gouge

me to get it.

 

I am starting a healing center now which will empower individuals with

degenerative diseases to BE THEIR OWN DOCTOR. I started it before I was

re-diagnosed on October 20th. I got a three room studio in downtown Portland

last summer, which is now decked out with a raw foods kitchen (and a few kitchen

items for my friends and family who eat cooked foods), infrared sauna and other

nifty things. When I get my own cancer in remission I will be open to the

public.

 

As cancer survivors we are vulnerable to others who may want to take our money.

I'm not talking about a little supplement thing here are there. I am talking

about folks who have found a cash cow for themselves with us desperate Stage

I'V's who will even get sucked into drinking our own urine as a treatment!

 

This group is the most amazing support group I have ever been involved in.

None of us have ever met, yet we are blood brothers and sisters through our

disease. We know the fear and the terror of facing our own death. We have gone

to the cliff's edge and looked down at the bottom, not knowing when we would

fall and die. We have picked ourselves up by our boot straps and made courageous

steps to fight a disease that some people say we don't have a chance in hell of

beating. We have fight like the most galliant warriors in true warfare. And all

through this we have helped our fellow man and woman by reaching out a hand and

saying, " Follow me. This is what I did. Maybe it will help me. "

You are my heroes. You are my friends. I bless you all for the bottom of my

heart.

 

Love and Blessings,

 

 

- On Fri, 11/28/08, Arlyn Grant wrote:

I find this sort of stuff to be pure bunk.

Truly, any time someone claims they know the cause of cancer, the cure

of cancer, and there are NO EXCEPTIONS, you should run far, far away.

The article below also says they have thermography that can detect

cancer anywhere in the body. Really? Because thermography can NOT

detect cancer everywhere in the body. Nor, can it detect all kinds of

cancer.

On Sat, 29 Nov, " Edwin Casimero " said:

> Breast Cancer Cause Solved: Dental Industry is to blame

>

> OneRadioNetwork. com interviewed Dr. Dowling, the founder of

> CancerCured. com and they have a big bus going around the USA with a website

advertising CancerCured. org. This is an in-your-face statement for those who

still believe in the myth that there is no cure for cancer. From their website:

Breast Cancer Mystery Solved: We know the cause, We know the cure, We know the

prevention, We have found NO EXCEPTIONS.

> Read the rest of this entry »

> http://www.curemanu al.com/blog/ 2008/11/breast- cancer-cause- solved-dental-

industry- is-to-blame/

[Guest guest]

in thix case appear only women to have dental problems , and what about the

men???

From: Edwin Casimero <eesc@...>

Subject: Breast Cancer Cause Solved: Dental Industry is to blame

, cures for cancer

Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 9:52 PM

Breast Cancer Cause Solved: Dental Industry is to blame

OneRadioNetwork. com interviewed Dr. Dowling, the founder of

CancerCured. com and they have a big bus going around the USA with a

website advertising CancerCured. org. This is an in-your-face statement

for those who still believe in the myth that there is no cure for

cancer. From their website: Breast Cancer Mystery Solved: We know the

cause, We know the cure, We know the prevention, We have found NO

EXCEPTIONS.

Read the rest of this entry »

http://www.curemanu al.com/blog/ 2008/11/breast- cancer-cause- solved-dental-

industry- is-to-blame/

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/30/08 10:07:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

nellymichaleva@... writes:

> thix case appear only women to have dental problems , and what about the

> men???

>

>

I think it's overkill to state that all breast cancer comes from dental

problems. It more related to hormones and probably weight (also hormones) than

anything else. Dental problems have been linked to heart disease and other

problems however, so it couldn't be good for cancer to have these unresolved

conditions.

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In a message dated 11/30/08 10:31:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

hallvtox@... writes:

> I have been using a cavitat for many years

Can you please explain this? I am concerned now. I have had dental problems

for years even though I take great care of my teeth. Thank you.

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In a message dated 11/30/08 11:37:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,

vgammill@... writes:

> could

> easily be epiphenomena of a greater underlying problem such as a

> systemic mycoplasma infection

Do you recommend a test for Mycoplasma then? I 've been considering it.

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I am a dentist and I have been using a cavitat for many years. In my

experience cancer is associated to chronic oral infection. The type of

cancer can vary from leukiemias to basel cell. Prostate Ca is the male

complaint, especially with root canals.

The virulence of these toxins is incredible, often we see 98% enxyme

inhibition on testing.

Graeme

szukidavis@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 11/30/08 10:07:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> nellymichaleva <mailto:nellymichaleva%40> writes:

>

> > thix case appear only women to have dental problems , and what about

> the

> > men???

> >

> >

>

> I think it's overkill to state that all breast cancer comes from dental

> problems. It more related to hormones and probably weight (also

> hormones) than

> anything else. Dental problems have been linked to heart disease and

> other

> problems however, so it couldn't be good for cancer to have these

> unresolved

> conditions.

>

>

>

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Graeme,

I do like your cautious use of the word " associated " as who knows the

direction of causality. Both cancer and dental infection could

easily be epiphenomena of a greater underlying problem such as a

systemic mycoplasma infection. Mycoplasma associated with periapical

granulomas can usually be cultured from the blood of cancer patients

but this does not imply that dental problems cause cancer. Wild-type

cancers are found throughout the animal world and I think it is safe

to say that no feral animals have had root canals.

I am curious as to which enzymes you are referring to and how the

enzymes were tested. Chemist Gerald Judd compiled a list of 66

enzymes (out 83 tested and reported in the literature) that showed a

decrease in function after exposure to supplemental low-level

fluoride. Fluoride is strongly associated with an increase in cancer rates.

To raise questions about the relationship of dental health and cancer

is very important. To point an accusatory finger at dentistry (or

lack of dentistry) is alarmist and could even be scapegoating to

protect some of the major carcinogen polluters. What about

the alarms of yesterday that showed the unmistakable association of

breast cancer with X-rays from mammography? with tight bras? with

milk products? with triclosan in deodorants? with emotional trauma?

At 07:30 AM 11/30/2008, you wrote:

>I am a dentist and I have been using a cavitat for many years. In my

>experience cancer is associated to chronic oral infection. The type of

>cancer can vary from leukiemias to basel cell. Prostate Ca is the male

>complaint, especially with root canals.

>The virulence of these toxins is incredible, often we see 98% enxyme

>inhibition on testing.

>Graeme

[Guest guest]

You can do a mycoplasma test if it is convenient and your tester is

skilled at this type of blood test. Otherwise I wouldn't worry about

it; I've seen many people hammer back their cancers without a clue as

to their mycoplasma status. There is no end to the tests you can do

if you have enough money. I think it is smart to recognize that

there is often a mycoplasma factor in dealing with cancer and it

should not be excluded from your considerations.

At 09:03 AM 11/30/2008, you wrote:

>In a message dated 11/30/08 11:37:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,

><mailto:vgammill%40adelphia.net>vgammill@... writes:

>

> > could

> > easily be epiphenomena of a greater underlying problem such as a

> > systemic mycoplasma infection

>

>Do you recommend a test for Mycoplasma then? I 've been considering it.

[Guest guest]

Interesting e-mail!

The type of bacteria we find in cavitation lesions (nico's id they are

causing pain) are anaerobic and hard to culture. What we do is send a

sample of the cavitation conrents (or piece of bony wall) to

altbioscience.com in kentucky. They assess the toxicity by testing

against 6 enzymes to see what degree the activity of these enzymes are

inhibited.

The same can be done for root filled teeth.

What we have seen is a high PSI count on a patient with a root filled

tooth. Using iodine idontophoresis to kill the bugs around the root

reduced the PSI considerably to " normal " levels. Patient had the tooth

out somewhere else without our precautions and the PSI count went

through the roof as the toxins around the root were released into the

blood stream. The idontophoresis only works for a short while.

We have seen non-hodgkins and CLL fade away on remong infected focii

properly from the mouth.

As to Mycoplasma, we have considered that but my faith in testing for it

is not high as regards accuracy. If you can help me with this I would be

obliged.

It would be suprising not to find Mycoplasma ina chronic lesion that may

be many years old.

In order for a cavitation lesion to form, there has to be a reduction in

blood supply i.e trauma of some description, this reduces an immune

response allowing the bacteria to gain a hold.

The bacteria wrap themselves up in a mucilaginous coat that is

impenetrable to the immune system.

It is the exotoxins of the bacteria that are the problem. To use an

anlogy, immagine the bugs are behind a city wall and they throw their

rubbish over the wall whilst not allowing the beseiging army in.

Clostridium is favourite but staph and step can be facultative anaerobes

as well.

These toxins can cause a myraid of symptoms out of all proportion to the

amount released. We have seen skin conditions, arthritis, ankylosing

spondilitis, chronic fatigue MCS all respond well on removal of these

dental focii.

I suggest that the underlying cause of these various pathologies,

including Ca, are toxins and it depends on the Genotype of the patient

and the particular toxin released what condition the patient shows up with.

Cardiac conditions are the same.

In my own case the Dr's gave me 5 years to live at the age of 29 due to

a heart condition. I cleaned out the toxins and have survived until now,

61 years old with no pathology around the heart at all.

I visit cardiologists yearly just to annoy them as they search and

search but find nothing out of order!

Whether Mycoplasmas are the main culprit is open to question but it does

not really matter, it all has to be properly cleaned out. I mean

properly as well.

Animal Ca. Good point. However, do not assume that animals are free from

oral infections, I have treated dogs as well for bone infections (with a

Vet there of course).

Also what about children? Rare to find chronic oral infections in bone

in small children but when we go back and look at the mother, yup, there

is always an infection there.

Probably you need several triggers to fire up Ca be suprising if you did

not. Chronic oral infections are potent toxin sources and should be

identified and dealt with but they are a major part of the problem but

not likely to be the whole problem.

With Prostate and Breast Ca, my best guess would be that dental toxins

are the major culprit from we see here in our clinic.

Graeme

VGammill wrote:

>

> Graeme,

>

> I do like your cautious use of the word " associated " as who knows the

> direction of causality. Both cancer and dental infection could

> easily be epiphenomena of a greater underlying problem such as a

> systemic mycoplasma infection. Mycoplasma associated with periapical

> granulomas can usually be cultured from the blood of cancer patients

> but this does not imply that dental problems cause cancer. Wild-type

> cancers are found throughout the animal world and I think it is safe

> to say that no feral animals have had root canals.

>

> I am curious as to which enzymes you are referring to and how the

> enzymes were tested. Chemist Gerald Judd compiled a list of 66

> enzymes (out 83 tested and reported in the literature) that showed a

> decrease in function after exposure to supplemental low-level

> fluoride. Fluoride is strongly associated with an increase in cancer

> rates.

>

> To raise questions about the relationship of dental health and cancer

> is very important. To point an accusatory finger at dentistry (or

> lack of dentistry) is alarmist and could even be scapegoating to

> protect some of the major carcinogen polluters. What about

> the alarms of yesterday that showed the unmistakable association of

> breast cancer with X-rays from mammography? with tight bras? with

> milk products? with triclosan in deodorants? with emotional trauma?

>

>

>

> At 07:30 AM 11/30/2008, you wrote:

>

> >I am a dentist and I have been using a cavitat for many years. In my

> >experience cancer is associated to chronic oral infection. The type of

> >cancer can vary from leukiemias to basel cell. Prostate Ca is the male

> >complaint, especially with root canals.

> >The virulence of these toxins is incredible, often we see 98% enxyme

> >inhibition on testing.

> >Graeme

>

>