Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Cheri, I've been practicing qigong energy work for over 15 years. I've heard about masters in the East who, through decades of full-time meditation and qigong, can reputedly do this. I've never seen it or experienced it. But I would be careful with it: Many New Age people feel they have been anointed with psychic or energy healing powers--the Law of Attraction " just believe " nonsense. The woman downstairs falls into this category, believing she is psychic and a " distance healer. " So far all her predictions for me are wrong. Distance healing? When my son came back from Iraq he had hurt himself--a blown disk in his back according to x-rays. My friend downstairs said " don't worry--my psychic friends and I will send him healing over a distance. " Afterwards he had an MRI that showed two herniated disks, a bone spur and spinal stenosis. I wish she'd stop--she's making him worse! Bob Ellal - Can energy healing work long distance? I need someone who is familiar with mental illness. If anyone has any one with experience I would greatly appreciate some info. Cheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Cheri, Yes, energy work can be quite successful when done long distance. However, I would make sure that the healer has experience with mental illness professionally - they are a therapist, etc. ar > > Can energy healing work long distance? I need someone who is familiar with mental illness. If anyone has any one with experience I would greatly appreciate some info. > > Cheri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Ask an energy healer to document his or her healings on a timeline. Whom have they healed? What time frame? If an energy healer sends " healing energy " and a year later after medication and therapy things turn around--is that a legitimate healing? No, it's not--whether for mental illness or a tumor. Call the people supposedly healed--there should be many. One or two and they could be in cahoots. I write scam articles in all areas--but the world of psychics, mediums and energy healers is the most infected by charlatans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 That is why I am trying to get info on it Cheri > > Can energy healing work long distance? I need someone who is familiar with mental illness. If anyone has any one with experience I would greatly appreciate some info. > > Cheri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Cheri, I am a energy healer and have worked long distance many years. I don't have experience with mental illness. Here is are two links to well known 3-4 year training schools to look up a graduate if interested. I would do as suggested by ar and look for a graduate with mental health experience and healing. You should be able to ask them about their experience with the type of mental illness you are interested in. (These schools offer CEU's for many medical professions and have doctors, nurses, psychologists, physical therapists, etc as graduates.) Barbara Brennan School of Healing: http://www.barbarabrennan.com/welcome/find_a_graduate.html Integrative Kabbalistic Healing: http://www.kabbalah.org/HealerDirectory.html Hope that helps in your question and search! On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:17 PM, cheri601183 wrote: > Can energy healing work long distance? I need someone who is familiar with mental illness. If anyone has any one with experience I would greatly appreciate some info. > > Cheri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Dear Cheri... I have heard both sides..Healing energy working and not working. Doesn't that apply to pharmaceuticals also? Medical treatments? I would not call Law of Attraction just nonsense. What some fail to understand is that some Buddhist Monks can will their death to the day; and also, people on their death bed can will themselves a longer life..We must understand the healer is the person themself They allow it or not allow. It is tragic to hear of the soldiers coming back with wounds..they are also suffering depression..their will may not be to get better..the suicide rate for soldiers is very high. For people whose will to survive is strong the likelihood of them getting better is much higher. Best thing for anyone is to let go of fear , anger,guilt, hatred and instead give or receive Love ..Isn't that what distant healing is? Doesn't is make you feel better when you know someone cares? When that realization takes one from negative to positve ...then it works! Its just an energy..with a lot of power but you decide to use it or not. Lina [ ] Re: energy healing? That is why I am trying to get info on it Cheri > > Can energy healing work long distance? I need someone who is familiar with mental illness. If anyone has any one with experience I would greatly appreciate some info. > > Cheri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 The problem is Bob, that while we don't know enough about many things 'mysterious', regardless, this is a Hit Or Miss kind of effort or it would not be on the fringe of healing but would be more prominent. If someone wants to add a 'healing' whether Distant or close process to their efforts, fine, but they had better do the often tried and true efforts while they do it. Many physical effects can be made to occur under Hypnosis and that does indicate that perhaps we have a measure of control over some functions but that has been proven to be a 'self hypnotic effect' not the power of the Hypnotist and one of the earlier posts referred to any power being within one's own realm not that of a healer. I understand Lourdes still draws them by the thousands. Wonder what they do with all the crutches and wheelchairs? Of course many of us have seen the 'wonders' of some guy in the Philippines removing 'ailing' parts without using a scalpel but 'slight of hand' is different than 'Distant Healing'.........or is it? Joe C. From: ROBERT ELLAL Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [ ] energy healing? Cheri, I've been practicing qigong energy work for over 15 years. I've heard about masters in the East who, through decades of full-time meditation and qigong, can reputedly do this. I've never seen it or experienced it. But I would be careful with it: Many New Age people feel they have been anointed with psychic or energy healing powers--the Law of Attraction " just believe " nonsense. The woman downstairs falls into this category, believing she is psychic and a " distance healer. " So far all her predictions for me are wrong. Distance healing? When my son came back from Iraq he had hurt himself--a blown disk in his back according to x-rays. My friend downstairs said " don't worry--my psychic friends and I will send him healing over a distance. " Afterwards he had an MRI that showed two herniated disks, a bone spur and spinal stenosis. I wish she'd stop--she's making him worse! Bob Ellal - Can energy healing work long distance? I need someone who is familiar with mental illness. If anyone has any one with experience I would greatly appreciate some info. Cheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Bob, you again hit the subject where it hurts. In the 'Proof is in the pudding'. Just like some 'natural cures' for cancer are claimed, and the person dies sometime down the road, so do Conventional Medicine Practitioners claim non-existent cures. Let someone go do 'Distant Healing' but while at it, take your Curcumin, NAC, etc.. Of course " Energy Healers " come from all walks of life so I suppose they provide their services freely. That would be a normal extension of someone being a healer no? Joe C. From: ROBERT ELLAL Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: energy healing? Ask an energy healer to document his or her healings on a timeline. Whom have they healed? What time frame? If an energy healer sends " healing energy " and a year later after medication and therapy things turn around--is that a legitimate healing? No, it's not--whether for mental illness or a tumor. Call the people supposedly healed--there should be many. One or two and they could be in cahoots. I write scam articles in all areas--but the world of psychics, mediums and energy healers is the most infected by charlatans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Joe,  I used qigong--a very disciplined practice of standing post meditation--to help me beat four bouts of supposedly terminal lymphoma in the early nineties. I used it as an adjunct to chemo, so in that regard I agree with you: use alternative means as a complement to allopathic treatments--which are brutal and medieval (two bone marrow transplants). But qigong practice can make one strong enough to take it. That was my approach and it's certainly not for everybody.  I believe in the internal energy paradigm which Western medicine discredited a century ago (vitalism--Mesmer's " ether " and Reich's " orgone, " for example). I've felt electrical occurrences in my body that I can't explain. That being said, I wouldn't fight cancer by just utilizing energetic means. I talked to my acupuncturist, who trained in Japan for five years, and he said the same thing with this caveat: perhaps if a person with cancer could withdraw from the world to a retreat for a year, eat organic foods and consume the proper herbs, practice qigong and have acupuncture treatments--without the stress of work, financial and family concerns--cures could take place. Only a few percent of the population could do that so it's not really practical.  Distance healing may exist. Who knows? One needs evidence to back up extraordinary claims. Certainly we are spiritual beings; but I don't think one should embrace spirituality so fully that it eclipses critical thinking. I see a lot of New Agers doing exactly this. From: JoeCastron <jcastron1@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: energy healing? Date: Sunday, August 22, 2010, 8:40 PM  Bob, you again hit the subject where it hurts. In the 'Proof is in the pudding'. Just like some 'natural cures' for cancer are claimed, and the person dies sometime down the road, so do Conventional Medicine Practitioners claim non-existent cures. Let someone go do 'Distant Healing' but while at it, take your Curcumin, NAC, etc.. Of course " Energy Healers " come from all walks of life so I suppose they provide their services freely. That would be a normal extension of someone being a healer no? Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Cheri, when it comes down to it, all healing is energy healing of some sort, as even medication and surgery apply to the illness a stronger and more positive kind of energy. YES, prayer-type healing DOES work at a distance as well as in person. No experience with mental illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 thanks i am looking for all the info I can find. Cheri > > > Can energy healing work long distance? I need someone who is familiar with mental illness. If anyone has any one with experience I would greatly appreciate some info. > > > > Cheri > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Well, all I know is that I should've been hospitalized with the small bowel obstruction I had a few weeks ago. My energy healer went to work on my, long distance, and completely got me out of the " urgent " category. I hardly have abdominal pain any more. I just got done spending 4 days with her and, if my guess is correct, my markers will be lower next month. I'll be sure to let you know if this is the case! xxoo > > Bob, you again hit the subject where it hurts. In the 'Proof is in the pudding'. Just like some 'natural cures' for cancer are claimed, and the person dies sometime down the road, so do Conventional Medicine Practitioners claim non-existent cures. Let someone go do 'Distant Healing' but while at it, take your Curcumin, NAC, etc.. Of course " Energy Healers " come from all walks of life so I suppose they provide their services freely. That would be a normal extension of someone being a healer no? > > Joe C. > > > From: ROBERT ELLAL > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: energy healing? > > > > Ask an energy healer to document his or her healings on a timeline. Whom have they healed? What time frame? If an energy healer sends " healing energy " and a year later after medication and therapy things turn around--is that a legitimate healing? No, it's not--whether for mental illness or a tumor. Call the people supposedly healed--there should be many. One or two and they could be in cahoots. I write scam articles in all areas--but the world of psychics, mediums and energy healers is the most infected by charlatans. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Well, I can only share my experience and that is that I had an acute small bowel obstruction and should have gone to the hospital on a Wed nights. Thurs morning started working with me. That was about a month ago. I hardly ever have belly pain any more! Don't have the science to prove it since the obstruction didn't show up on an MRI. But my onc is the one who dx it as such. I'll be seeing him next week and I'm certain he'll be impressed even if others here are skeptical. And the only marker I had drawn after she had worked on me for three weeks, long-distance, that had gone up 2-3 points each month, still went up. But only by 0.7 of a point. That's an improvement in my eyes. I'm also getting tumor markers drawn either today or Monday. When I get those results, and if they're as I suspect they might be, I'll post them as well. Oh yeah, and I'm doing no other tx at this time, except my cannabis oil. With that obstruction, I couldn't digest, nor could my liver process, all the supps I was taking. So if my markers have dropped, as I suspect they have, that will tell the tale. Oil and energy! xxoo > That being said, I wouldn't fight cancer by just utilizing energetic means. I talked to my acupuncturist, who trained in Japan for five years, and he said the same thing with this caveat: perhaps if a person with cancer could withdraw from the world to a retreat for a year, eat organic foods and consume the proper herbs, practice qigong and have acupuncture treatments--without the stress of work, financial and family concerns--cures could take place. Only a few percent of the population could do that so it's not really practical. >  > Distance healing may exist. Who knows? One needs evidence to back up extraordinary claims. Certainly we are spiritual beings; but I don't think one should embrace spirituality so fully that it eclipses critical thinking. I see a lot of New Agers doing exactly this. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 This is most interesting. I was wondering where to buy cannabis oil. Is that the same as hemp oil? What type of energy healing was it? Is it expensive? Thanks for any info BJ From: melizzard11 Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 Well, I can only share my experience and that is that I had an acute small bowel obstruction and should have gone to the hospital on a Wed nights. Thurs morning started working with me. That was about a month ago. I hardly ever have belly pain any more! Don't have the science to prove it since the obstruction didn't show up on an MRI. But my onc is the one who dx it as such. I'll be seeing him next week and I'm certain he'll be impressed even if others here are skeptical. And the only marker I had drawn after she had worked on me for three weeks, long-distance, that had gone up 2-3 points each month, still went up. But only by 0.7 of a point. That's an improvement in my eyes. I'm also getting tumor markers drawn either today or Monday. When I get those results, and if they're as I suspect they might be, I'll post them as well. Oh yeah, and I'm doing no other tx at this time, except my cannabis oil. With that obstruction, I couldn't digest, nor could my liver process, all the supps I was taking. So if my markers have dropped, as I suspect they have, that will tell the tale. Oil and energy! xxoo ROBERT ELLAL <rcellal@...> wrote: ......Distance healing may exist. Who knows? One needs evidence to back up extraordinary claims. Certainly we are spiritual beings; but I don't think one should embrace spirituality so fully that it eclipses critical thinking. I see a lot of New Agers doing exactly this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Yes, the cannabis oil is the same as Rick Simpson's hemp oil. I don't know what " kind " of energy it is ... but I know one of my healers uses destructive force. This healer does not. Unfortunately, she is pretty pricey especially since it typically requires a lot of time to peel back all the mess going wrong in someone with cancer. xxoo - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Caveat emptor. I'm reflecting back on an earlier email I sent regarding extreme caution with " energy healers. " The word " pricey " is a red flag. As I said, in the East and now in the West some qigong healers claim this ability--but only after decades of cultivating their internal energy for many hours each day. I don't know if it's really possible. Never felt it or witnessed it, just heard tales. But it believe it can happen through a face-to-face treatment, but not over distance (a la Jesus healing the centurion's servant).  If it was me I'd talk to a good tai chi chuan teacher and ask if he or she knows one. It will probably be in one of the many Chinatowns in U.S. cities. And the price won't be through the roof. Anyone who spends a lifetime developing this ability also develops a moral attitude. Charge yes--we all have to eat. But don't break the bank of someone who is ill and needs help and probably doesn't have a lot of disposable income because they may not be able to work.  A couple of my Native American friends have told me the same thing about " people of power, " shamans in which they've witnessed this ability. Often they work through donations.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Hi .I hope you get good results from your up and coming tests. Please let us know.There are quite a few people on the oil that are getting good results. On the energy healing,I believe that tat or EFT would be beneficial in removing psychological obstacles that impede wellness. There are many causes of illness and as hard as it is to believe guilt is sometimes the cause . EFT is simple and works. Best regards Guy > > Yes, the cannabis oil is the same as Rick Simpson's hemp oil. > > I don't know what " kind " of energy it is ... but I know one of my healers uses destructive force. This healer does not. Unfortunately, she is pretty pricey especially since it typically requires a lot of time to peel back all the mess going wrong in someone with cancer. > > xxoo > > > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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