Re: Re: My Current Protocol, for better or worse. Comments welcome

December 14, 2008

Jim,

I wouldn't listen to ANYONE who tells you not to take supplements. I don't care

who they are. Supplementation---whether it is bloodroot or mushrooms---is the

key to healing from cancer in addition to diet. You have to hit it hard from

every available source.

The MAJOR thing I have always done when I have had a recurrence is listen to my

gut instincts. If something doesn't feel right to me (and I don't have to

analyze it to death to know exactly what this is), then I don't do it.

I am glad people have gotten remissions from Budwig, but the fact that it is so

limiting to me is problematic. I love making my little formulas and

experimenting on myself. I used to pay my daughter $10 as a joke to drink the

most disgusting weird dandelion green sludges and things. We were just laughing

about it in church Friday night as she was relating to the minister about my

illness after the services.

One of the most important things is to feel in control as a cancer survivor. The

fact that we have some control over this deadly disease is crucial to recovery,

peace of mind and a feeling of being able to go the extra mile. I can not

believe the women in my prior " support " group who state, " Well there is nothing

I can do with these mets to the bone. I am sick and tired of people telling me

to take this or that. One guy came over with a green drink and says take this

every day. " I RAN away from this group.

As for the estrogens, yes the estrogens are in non-organic meats and dairy and,

according to my oncologist, soy, flaxseeds, black cohosh, ginseng and red

clover. The only thing I am doing here is eating flax seeds. I don't believe her

on the flaxseeds being bad for you. But as I stated in an earlier post, my

naturopath believed the flax seed oil was a problem. I have heard this from

other sources. I also have discovered that soy lecithin soy o.k. as an additive

to certain formulas. And yes plastics, especially the #7 water bottles are

cancer-promoting if not causing. I asked a local naturopath to change the water

bottles in her office due to the known fact that #7 plastic containers cause

cancer. Canada has banned them. Instead of listening to me she replied in a

snotty voice, " This is the water we have. If you don't like it, then drink

Portland water. " When it came time to book the appointment to see her, I looked

up and said, " I wouldn't feel

comfortable coming back here. " I have been responsible for getting them off the

shelf at Food Front Co-operative. I marched in and said I had discovered the #7

bottles cause cancer and I would like them to take them off the shelf. The

manager said she would " think about it. " When I went back in a week with more

information on them, she agreed to take them off the shelf. I have since joined

their co-op. I no longer shop at Whole Foods or New Seasons because they refused

to take them off their shelves. I let the managers know as well. I did these

protests last summer, BEFORE my re-diagnosis.

I was surprised to learn from a book I had in storage written back in the

mid-70's that once doctor has advised not eating anything in plastic. I know

this is hard, but do the best you can. I have stainless steel water jugs and 25

oz glass water bottles to store in the frig. I have an aquasan water filter and

will soon be ozonating my water. I was suppposed to pick up my oxygen tomorrow

but we are snowed in here in Portland.

You and I are in a fight for our lives and time is of the essence. We can't

guarantee that any of this stuff will work, but we can be guaranteed that we

WILL die if we just sit back and do nothing.

Keep researching and refining your protocol, Jim. I am doing the same. It has

taken me two months of research to finally feel like I am in control of this

thing. I have a new order from ww.iherb.com coming next week. I spent $550, but

these are good things. The Cesium Chloride is a fairly inexpensive protocol. You

must also take extra potassium. The two bottles of both cesium and potassium for

a 32 day supply is like $119.95 + shipping at www.rainbowminerals.net. I also

bought germanium and selemium liquids. I have had no problem with nausea except

that I do have to eat something like a tablespoon of raw almond butter to settle

my stomach before taking it; otherwise, I feel a lit bit off.

Have you considered Cesium Chloride? You MUST get a blood test for potassium

every 2-3 weeks so you don't die from cardiac arrest. I know this sounds off,

but it is true. My oncologist agreed to the test. www.cancertutor.com raves

about Cesium therapy. It is one of their top tiers therapies. I will send you

instructions for this protocol if you are interested in this. Stay away from

other vendors as they charge exhorbiant prices and try to sell you all these

other expensive minerals, which you can get dirt cheap on www.iherb.com.

Keep me and others posted, Jim. We are here for you and are rooting for you.

Sincerely,

December 14, 2008

I had a local guy diagnosed with cancer and going through the original chemo I

did .

I was only on it 11 days and he stayed the entire stay 5weeks chemo and

radiation.,

then surgery.

then more chemo/radiation

then more surgery i think 3 times and then they said he was terminal.

I finally got him interested in trying something else.

Bio energetic testing/alkaline water/no sugar/immunocal.

He was set to go the next day and then called his oncologist first.

his oncologist said " Oh no don't do that! "

and so he cancelled all we set up and did what his Dr said.

And died 3 months later.

It just makes me so mad that they say there is no hope , nothing we can do, but

oh no don't try that!

Obviously we MUST think for ourselves too!

Dennis

December 14, 2008

I am always surprised by the how vehemently people oppose even looking

at alternatives. What are they afraid of? And the misinformation out

there about alternative options is huge. We've had so many young women

in our breast cancer group die this year...none of them would even

consider alternative medicine. It just makes me sad.

One woman told me she thinks the others hate alternatives because they

are so desperate and afraid they are going to die, that they HAVE to

believe that what they've chosen for treatment is correct. It's about

fear. Fear of the unknown, etc.

But it seems to me that if you were that afraid, wouldn't you want to

use EVERY method available?

I'm just always puzzled.

ar

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:11:34 -0000, " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@...>

said:

> Speaking of reverse placebo effects, I talked with a friend recently

> who is dying of hepatitis C. I tried talking to her about

> alternatives. She immediately cut me off and said " I've been into

> nursing for 15 years, and I'm sorry, but I've never seen an

> alternative approach work, period. I will NOT do anything

> alternative. If I die using the best modern medicine has to offer,

> then I die. "

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

December 14, 2008

Jim,

You said:

" My intuition does say to keep taking supplements, but as I said in a

previous post, a lot of this has to do with a sense of control over

my own disease. I feel almost no control with Budwig, and in fact, have read

multiple

posts where people doing Budwig had cancers getting out of control.

They were told to hang in there -- that this was typical at first,

etc. This scared me too much. "

Jim, I am glad you got scared. You trusted your instincts and you listened to

some inner truth. See, you didn't need us to tell you the truth. You already had

it. Now you can educate and protect others.

You said:

" I just got done reading a book where they talked extensively about

placebo and reverse placebo effects. Amazing. Some 40% of cures in

modern medicine can be attributed to placebo effect. If you think

something is going to work, it will. Conversely, if you are

convinced that something won't work, it won't. "

Jim,

My major passion in life is science. So, though the placebo effect may be

true, I don't lay my faith in such things. What I place my faith in (besides

God) is scientifically based things. For instance, it doesn't take rocket

science to know that the body needs vitamins and minerals to fuction. If the

body doesn't get them, then something happens (i.e. cancer, etc.)

You said,

" So is the real problem that I am a control freak? "

Jim,

A woman called me a " control freak " in the hospital support group because I

was talking about reversing cancer with alternatives. She thought I should enjoy

my life and have the quality rather then the quanity of years. She saw my trying

to stay in remission as not enjoying life and trying to control something she

viewed as unchangeable and unfixable---that cancer has it's own course and you

can do nothing about it. This was way back in August before I got the

re-currence. I left the group for quite a while and then came back when I was

railroaded in the chemo room by " concerned Rn's. " That same woman now has

terminal cancer. Though I was kind to her and never threw it up in her face that

she had called me a " control freak, " I RAN from that group. I RAN FROM THAT

GROUP.

I actually spoke to someone on the phone today who was also on the Budwig

website, who says they are very controlling. It sounds to me, once again Jim,

that your inner voice is trying to tell you something. Don't turn this around

and make YOU the control freak. *Read below about taking responsbility for

others actions and behaviors. It sounds to me that others on that site have the

control issues. Don't be talked out of your inner truth and knowledge. You have

got a path of healing now and your best bet of recovery. You honor the truth

because you care not just about yourself but others as well. HONOR YOUR TRUTH.

*Dr. Lawrence , author of Sauna Therapy states that,

" Recognizing how one is affected by the energy of other people and seeing the

truth about one's compatibility with others can be life-altering, Being tied to

unhealthy relationships is a major cause of illness. Carefully evaluate all

relationships, including family, friends, business associates, partners and

co-workers. Methods of evaluation include prayer, mediation, reading books and

counseling. Do your best to become aware as to whether your relationships are

serving you good, and whether they are serving the highest good of all involved.

Taking responsibility for others when they should be doing this for themselves,

is not health-producing. This does not mean relationships will always be easy,

However, they should not be destructive. Rest assured, as you consciously choose

to serve a greater good, you will attract the help you need, and new friends and

partners as well. "

You said,

" This seemed so weird to me. Why wouldn't she fight for her life?

And, in fact, she is not fighting. She is dying very quickly. Why

doesn't the placebo effect work for her? I guess she is in the 60%,

and the medicine (interferon) just isn't working. And, she may want

to die. I'm not sure why, but this happens. "

Jim,

Tell me about it. The facilitator of the support group backed up the woman who

called me a control freak, never telling her to apologize to me. It became a

very unhealthy situation. Of course, I did get back at the group a bit later

when I told them I thought they were all being brainwashed by mainstream

medicine into accepting their cancer verdicts. I am so glad I said it.

Don't doubt yourself. Is this your first time around with cancer?

nancy

December 14, 2008

I pay $669 a month in my Kaiser Permanente health insurance premium, which gives

me expensive diagnostic tests. The only thing they have offered me in a way of

cure since 2006 is anti-estrogen hormone therapy. Femara at first worked and now

has failed. I was put on a once a month injection which I have in the chemo

room. It has an 18% success rate---whatever that means. I have spent thousands

of dollars on co-pays and insurance premiums over the years and yet only ONE

doctor has recently asked me about my diet. But don't get me wrong that she's

into alternatives. She made a snide remark to me recently in an e-mail, about

that it would be unlikely that she would approve LDN or write a prescription for

it, as she couldn't back " unproven methods. " She sent me an e-mail, " I know this

isn't what you wanted to hear! " You know what? I'm not even going to TELL her

that I already have two back-up doctors who will prescibe it for me and I'm NOT

going to tell her I

am on it. I am just going to smile, sit back and USE them for diagnostic

purposes and even maybe get a bit of Cyberknife to wipe out the snots in my

lungs.

They recently asked me for a list of supplements I am on and because I am on so

many I had to take the forms home with me. You know what? They are not getting a

God-blankety thing from me. What, to put it down? Or belittle and ignore the

successes it if I go in remission once again? Oh, how I wish Dr. Panutich was

still alive. Even though he followed mainstream medicine, he gave me a

prescription for Oxygen before he died to use in my ozone machine I was going to

buy a year ago. I spoke with his wife for an hour recently and she said, " I

can't tell you how many times I had to tell my husband to be careful that he

could lose his license. " He was a saint. He died of multiple myeloma. I didn't

even know he had the disease until it progressed the last few years.

We have a long way to get past the financial and political interests and agendas

of both mainstream and alternative practitioners.

Let's figure this all out guys. It's our lives and bodies on the line. Keep up

the good work everybody. We are the true pioneers in this stuff.

December 14, 2008

Myomin would help you. If you are not allergic to broccoli, then Dim-Plus would

help as well.

Johanne

From: cheryl

Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:41 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: My Current Protocol, for better or worse. Comments

welcome

Would this myomin help me? Even with the calcium d glucarate I have

trouble with estrogen. I was asked if I looked into a progesterin sp?

cream but I really have no idea where to start on that front. Just

googling what you use it seems to block all estrogen which may be

beneficial to me as I seem to be massively estrogen dominant (thank

you dr's and lovely birth control to regulate periods when I was a

teenager)

Cheri

> > I pay $669 a month in my Kaiser Permanente health insurance

premium, which gives me expensive diagnostic tests. The only thing

they have offered me in a way of cure since 2006 is anti-estrogen

hormone therapy. Femara at first worked and now has failed. I was

> put on a once a month injection which I have in the chemo room. It

has an 18% success rate---whatever that means. I have spent thousands

of dollars on co-pays and insurance premiums over the years and yet

only ONE doctor has recently asked me about my diet.....

> >

>

> , sounds as though you have metastatic breast cancer? Me too

.... my onc wants to put me on Femara, but I have been dx with diffuse

disease in my bones and am on Zometa for that. Ummmmmm .... excuse

me, but Femara causes osteoporosis. Why on earth would I want to put

my already weakened bones into further weakness? Oh, but I'm on

Zometa, so that would protect them, she says. Yes, but if the Zometa

is busy protecting my bones from osteoporosis from the anti-hormonal

drug, wouldn't that negate some of its effectiveness at fighting the

cancer in the bones? She had to concede that maybe a

> little. Hmmmphhhhh!

>

> So, I just started taking an estrogen blocker/aromatase inhibitor,

Chinese herb called Myomin. You might wanna check it out and see if

it sounds like something beneficial for you. Also, if you do have

breast cancer, have you heard of the Amazon email group? It's a

> group of alternative-only breast cancer ladies and, oh my gosh, are

they FULL of great info, research, digging for little-known studies,

etc. If you're interested, you can find them at

www.breastcancerchoices.org.

>

> Sounds like we have similar situations with the exception of the

fact that I'm now eating poultry and fish as per my metabolic typing.

I know that sounds totally weird, but it makes intuitive sense to me.

I mean heck ... we alternative types complain about the

> cookie-cutter conventional treatments for highly individualized

disease. But then cancer diets are pretty cookie-cutter too ... eat

only fruits/veggies, and as much raw as possible. Now, some of that is

no-brainer ... don't eat sugar or refined, processed foods or

artificial sweeteners. Stay away from xenoestogens, etc. But it

makes perfect sense that if you eat and orange and I eat an orange, it

would affect each of us differently.

>

> Anyway, this whole journey is quite the education and, in many

cases, a crap shoot until we roll the lucky number on the dice!

>

> xxo

>

December 14, 2008

Yes, , as I stated in an earlier e-mail, Cancer is a Crap Shoot. I have

been thinking about writing a book for years and I think I will title it that.

The thing that I want out of this webite is for SURVIVORS --- NOT EXPERTS to be

empowered. I want WE SURVIVORS to feel we are in control of the direction of our

disease. This is not to say that experts can not be helpful. I am studying right

now (can you BELIEVE IT??) to become a nutritional consultant and an " expert " in

a few other areas.

December 15, 2008

Dear ,

this what you wrote very me pleases. I sign under these with arguments

hands and with legs.

I proceed {I progress} similarly. I drive supervisory investigations

{research} at every supplement

( unfortunately are this additional costs and necessity of receiving of

blood; results in sheet EXCEL)

I became {I remained} forced, by {through} life.... and wife, without

conflict, to use methods alternative and classical, of orthodoxal oncology.

You to daughter paid $10 ........ I in this of situation speak: stomach does

not have mind.

By {through} last 2. 5 year I gave on additions and investigations

{research} $ 31 000 . I do not seek cheap treatments, but... efficient.

I do not regret, this {then} healths my wives and for us, to be together how

longest.

Best.Jan.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Dorr

Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:28 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: My Current Protocol, for better or worse.

Comments welcome

Jim,

I wouldn't listen to ANYONE who tells you not to take supplements. I don't

care who they are. Supplementation---whether it is bloodroot or

mushrooms---is the key to healing from cancer in addition to diet. You have

to hit it hard from every available source.

The MAJOR thing I have always done when I have had a recurrence is listen to

my gut instincts. If something doesn't feel right to me (and I don't have to

analyze it to death to know exactly what this is), then I don't do it.

I am glad people have gotten remissions from Budwig, but the fact that it is

so limiting to me is problematic. I love making my little formulas and

experimenting on myself. I used to pay my daughter $10 as a joke to drink

the most disgusting weird dandelion green sludges and things. We were just

laughing about it in church Friday night as she was relating to the minister

about my illness after the services.

One of the most important things is to feel in control as a cancer survivor.

The fact that we have some control over this deadly disease is crucial to

recovery, peace of mind and a feeling of being able to go the extra mile. I

can not believe the women in my prior " support " group who state, " Well there

is nothing I can do with these mets to the bone. I am sick and tired of

people telling me to take this or that. One guy came over with a green drink

and says take this every day. " I RAN away from this group.

As for the estrogens, yes the estrogens are in non-organic meats and dairy

and, according to my oncologist, soy, flaxseeds, black cohosh, ginseng and

red clover. The only thing I am doing here is eating flax seeds. I don't

believe her on the flaxseeds being bad for you. But as I stated in an

earlier post, my naturopath believed the flax seed oil was a problem. I have

heard this from other sources. I also have discovered that soy lecithin soy

o.k. as an additive to certain formulas. And yes plastics, especially the #7

water bottles are cancer-promoting if not causing. I asked a local

naturopath to change the water bottles in her office due to the known fact

that #7 plastic containers cause cancer. Canada has banned them. Instead of

listening to me she replied in a snotty voice, " This is the water we have.

If you don't like it, then drink Portland water. " When it came time to book

the appointment to see her, I looked up and said, " I wouldn't feel

comfortable coming back here. " I have been responsible for getting them off

the shelf at Food Front Co-operative. I marched in and said I had discovered

the #7 bottles cause cancer and I would like them to take them off the

shelf. The manager said she would " think about it. " When I went back in a

week with more information on them, she agreed to take them off the shelf.

I have since joined their co-op. I no longer shop at Whole Foods or New

Seasons because they refused to take them off their shelves. I let the

managers know as well. I did these protests last summer, BEFORE my

re-diagnosis.

I was surprised to learn from a book I had in storage written back in the

mid-70's that once doctor has advised not eating anything in plastic. I know

this is hard, but do the best you can. I have stainless steel water jugs and

25 oz glass water bottles to store in the frig. I have an aquasan water

filter and will soon be ozonating my water. I was suppposed to pick up my

oxygen tomorrow but we are snowed in here in Portland.

You and I are in a fight for our lives and time is of the essence. We can't

guarantee that any of this stuff will work, but we can be guaranteed that we

WILL die if we just sit back and do nothing.

Keep researching and refining your protocol, Jim. I am doing the same. It

has taken me two months of research to finally feel like I am in control of

this thing. I have a new order from ww.iherb.com coming next week. I spent

$550, but these are good things. The Cesium Chloride is a fairly

inexpensive protocol. You must also take extra potassium. The two bottles of

both cesium and potassium for a 32 day supply is like $119.95 + shipping at

www.rainbowminerals.net. I also bought germanium and selemium liquids. I

have had no problem with nausea except that I do have to eat something like

a tablespoon of raw almond butter to settle my stomach before taking it;

otherwise, I feel a lit bit off.

Have you considered Cesium Chloride? You MUST get a blood test for potassium

every 2-3 weeks so you don't die from cardiac arrest. I know this sounds

off, but it is true. My oncologist agreed to the test. www.cancertutor.com

raves about Cesium therapy. It is one of their top tiers therapies. I will

send you instructions for this protocol if you are interested in this. Stay

away from other vendors as they charge exhorbiant prices and try to sell you

all these other expensive minerals, which you can get dirt cheap on

www.iherb.com.

Keep me and others posted, Jim. We are here for you and are rooting for you.

Sincerely,

December 15, 2008

Cheri,

I truly understand. There are many years where we could not either. Don't feel

bad. I just wanted to share my journey once again to let people know what made

the difference for me. It was hard, lots of tears and disappointments but in the

end, I am here with my whole body unharmed and living life.

Hugs,

Johanne

From: cheryl

Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:27 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: My Current Protocol, for better or worse. Comments

welcome

LOL I would love to do the testing to tell me what I am allergic to

but at this time I can not afford it. Truly I can not.

Cheri

> > > I pay $669 a month in my Kaiser Permanente health insurance

> premium, which gives me expensive diagnostic tests. The only thing

> they have offered me in a way of cure since 2006 is anti-estrogen

> hormone therapy. Femara at first worked and now has failed. I was

> > put on a once a month injection which I have in the chemo room. It

> has an 18% success rate---whatever that means. I have spent thousands

> of dollars on co-pays and insurance premiums over the years and yet

> only ONE doctor has recently asked me about my diet.....

> > >

> >

> > , sounds as though you have metastatic breast cancer? Me too

> ... my onc wants to put me on Femara, but I have been dx with diffuse

> disease in my bones and am on Zometa for that. Ummmmmm .... excuse

> me, but Femara causes osteoporosis. Why on earth would I want to put

> my already weakened bones into further weakness? Oh, but I'm on

> Zometa, so that would protect them, she says. Yes, but if the Zometa

> is busy protecting my bones from osteoporosis from the anti-hormonal

> drug, wouldn't that negate some of its effectiveness at fighting the

> cancer in the bones? She had to concede that maybe a

> > little. Hmmmphhhhh!

> >

> > So, I just started taking an estrogen blocker/aromatase inhibitor,

> Chinese herb called Myomin. You might wanna check it out and see if

> it sounds like something beneficial for you. Also, if you do have

> breast cancer, have you heard of the Amazon email group? It's a

> > group of alternative-only breast cancer ladies and, oh my gosh, are

> they FULL of great info, research, digging for little-known studies,

> etc. If you're interested, you can find them at

> www.breastcancerchoices.org.

> >

> > Sounds like we have similar situations with the exception of the

> fact that I'm now eating poultry and fish as per my metabolic typing.

> I know that sounds totally weird, but it makes intuitive sense to me.

> I mean heck ... we alternative types complain about the

> > cookie-cutter conventional treatments for highly individualized

> disease. But then cancer diets are pretty cookie-cutter too ... eat

> only fruits/veggies, and as much raw as possible. Now, some of that is

> no-brainer ... don't eat sugar or refined, processed foods or

> artificial sweeteners. Stay away from xenoestogens, etc. But it

> makes perfect sense that if you eat and orange and I eat an orange, it

> would affect each of us differently.

> >

> > Anyway, this whole journey is quite the education and, in many

> cases, a crap shoot until we roll the lucky number on the dice!

> >

> > xxo

> >

>

December 15, 2008

,

Keep studying because what meant more to me when I was fighting (long years

here) was someone that knew what fighting for your life was like. I respect all

that science out there but it truly would have killed me had I followed that

trail. I prefer learning from somebody that has had life-experience. My husband

feels the same way. Now, we felt alone again once our two children were

afflicted because parents who choose this road with children under 18 just do

not manifest. Nevertheless, my degrees and certifications were gradual over the

years and I consider life-experience the true test to helping and encouraging

others with a realistic view.

Keep doing it it! You will be great!

Hugs,

Johanne

From: Dorr

Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:41 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: My Current Protocol, for better or worse.

Comments welcome

Yes, , as I stated in an earlier e-mail, Cancer is a Crap Shoot. I have

been thinking about writing a book for years and I think I will title it that.

The thing that I want out of this webite is for SURVIVORS --- NOT EXPERTS to be

empowered. I want WE SURVIVORS to feel we are in control of the direction of our

disease. This is not to say that experts can not be helpful. I am studying right

now (can you BELIEVE IT??) to become a nutritional consultant and an " expert " in

a few other areas.

December 15, 2008

Johanne:

I am really puzzled by your comment to me in your last post to me. You stated,

" I respect all that science out there but it truly would have killed me had I

followed that trail. "

If you don't believe in science, which you claim would have " killed " you, then

why put your credentials out there as " Clinical Nutritionist, " " Functional

Diagnostic Nutritionist, " and

" Certified Metabolic Typing Advisor Level 2? " These are SCIENTIFIC terms. Where

did you get your degree as a " clinical nutritionist? " Certainly at a college

with SCIENCE courses. No one gets a degree as a " clinical nutritionist " without

a heavy background in the SCIENCES.

When I studied nutrition for my preparation for nursing school, we studied the

SCIENCE of nutrition. It is listed under the SCIENCES in the college catalog.

SCIENCE is based on an hypothesis, which forms the foundation for the theories

which are then laid out for others to accept or reject.

SCIENCE has saved many lives. Granted, it also has it's down side. My best

friend in 1995 died of chemo. But on the other hand, SCIENCE has developed many

drugs and remedies which have saved millions of people's lives. Think polio,

malaria, syphilis, and the folks who figured out that by giving the sailors on

ship vegies, they wouldn't die back in the 1600's.

Let me give you this information I just discovered on the internet today:

Calcium D-glucarate (C-D-G) is a nontoxic patented form of glucaric acid that is

easily absorbed, active in small (and inexpensive) doses and bioavailable in the

body for relatively extended periods. Glucaric acid is present in different

fruits and vegetables and is made in very small amounts by our own bodies.

However, as science has discovered with regard to most beneficial

phytochemicals, even if you ate as much of the appropriate foods you could, it

would still be difficult if not impossible to consistently get the amount of

C-D-G more conveniently available in the supplement. (See the sidebar, " A Quick

Guide to C-D-G, " for further information.) Researchers at M.D. Cancer

Center in Houston, Texas, developed the supplemental form of C-D-G. The

scientists there were studying why and how a diet high in fruits and veggies

reduced the incidence of certain cancers and other degenerative diseases. After

many animal and human studies showed that

C-D-G could significantly decrease lung, skin, liver, breast, colon and

prostate cancers, most by half or more, the agent was developed into a dietary

supplement.

I had never heard of C-D-G until I went on . Now I find out that it

was discovered by one of the most prominent cancer centers in the world. Many of

us on this website are taking C-D-G because of these SCIENTISTS.

Albert Einstein, perhaps the most revered SCIENTIST in the world, gave the world

the gift of many theories and answers to some of life's greatest mysteries.

SCIENTISTS aren't experts, necessarily. They are explorers, researchers,

pioneers and even humanitarians. Children don't have to be in polio wards now,

paralzyed for life. People aren't isolated in iron lungs where T.B. has

destroyed their lungs. I have enormous respect for these people. Our lives would

never be the same without the advances in medicine, physics, and the other

sciences--yes even nutrition.

I have always had a great and deep love for the SCIENCE of biology, chemistry,

nutrition, and antaomy and physiology. Biology is the SCIENCE of all living

things. I did so well in the SCIENCES that I received a full scholarship to

nursing school.

I am here today because of SCIENCE. Some Indian in Wyoming who discovered that

bloodroot worked particularly well on bone cancers. Or the guy who figured out

that the Yew tree could be made into a chemo drug called Taxol. After going on

both of these substances in 1994, my terminal inoperable cancer, which had eaten

away my sternum, was in complete remission in six weeks!!!!

So, again I am quite puzzled by your remarks.