Re: Best type of water to drink?

[Guest guest]

What kind of ionizer did you purchase? Please give contact information of

the supplier.

In a message dated 9/18/2010 1:43:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

fernsiman@... writes:

I was consuming copious amounts of distilled water prior to developing

breast cancer. There may be no connection, but as mentioned distilled water is

acidic. I bought an ionizer and now drink ionized water with a positive pH.

8.0 -8.5

From: detwa_3017

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010

I have been committed to distilled water because I had been told and

believe/d that it is the best type of water to drink. Now I've read in a few

places that distilled water is the WORST type to drink, that it leeches

minerals from your body, etc.

Besides alkaline, which is not in my price range at this time, what type

of water is best? Purified, spring or distilled - or other?

[Guest guest]

Is cod liver oil increase alkalinity? How much do we need to take to have

an effect?

In a message dated 9/18/2010 2:58:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

olde_silas@... writes:

You might look up Dr. Revici. You can type in Dr Revici into amazon.com for

the book that Kelley Eidem wrote about Dr Revici. Also you can Google Dr

Revici.

Revici monitored pH among other things (blood calcium etc) and looked to

see if the pH was acidic in the morning swinging past 6.2 (center point) and

becoming alkaline in mid afternoon. This is considered normal pH and

indicates balance.

If the pH is stuck at acid or stuck at alkaline there is a serious problem

and one may be anabolic or catabolic. If the pH is stuck at alkaline, then

evening primrose oil or borage oil was recommended. If the pH was stuck at

acid, then cod liver oil was recommended.

Dr Revici identified catabolic foods and anabolic foods and also catabolic

vitamins and anabolic vitamins.

His track record was awesome in 'curing' cancer, aids, migranes, etc as

well as improving rheumatoid arthritis etc. His lipid methods destroyed

viruses and bacteria. There were no side effects and it worked rather quickly.

He developed around 17 different lipid medicines. His charges were very

modest.

He himself got pneumonia every year due to a virus attack in early life.

His lipid medicines cured it in short order every year. He died in 1998 at

the age of 101 and was active into his upper nineties. All through life he

seemed only to need two hours sleep at night. His work is being carried on

in small scale in Manhattan, NYC and there is a number for appointments.

[Guest guest]

Detwa,

I myself just bought a US made distiller with glass receptacle. I used to drink

store bought water but then i learned that FDA requires all commercial water to

have chlorine. Distilled water does not leach minerals, the truth is it does

not have any minerals because it has dissipated during the steaming/distilling

process. Minerals can be taken from either food and vitamins so this issue is

no problem. It is true distilled water is acidic, i add organic non aluminum

baking soda 1/4 tsp to a liter. That brings my water to neutral 7ph. Store

bought water in plastic containers has leaching of BPA ... specially when

exposed to heat while in transit. Most city waters also have flouride which

filters cannot remove 100%. We have a Big Berkey and i make the water pass

through it then distill it to make sure i have a real clean water.

>

> I have been committed to distilled water because I had been told and believe/d

that it is the best type of water to drink. Now I've read in a few places that

distilled water is the WORST type to drink, that it leeches minerals from your

body, etc.

>

> Besides alkaline, which is not in my price range at this time, what type of

water is best? Purified, spring or distilled - or other?

>

[Guest guest]

I was consuming copious amounts of distilled water prior to developing breast

cancer. There may be no connection, but as mentioned distilled water is acidic.

I bought an ionizer and now drink ionized water with a positive pH. 8.0 -8.5

From: detwa_3017

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010

I have been committed to distilled water because I had been told and believe/d

that it is the best type of water to drink. Now I've read in a few places that

distilled water is the WORST type to drink, that it leeches minerals from your

body, etc.

Besides alkaline, which is not in my price range at this time, what type of

water is best? Purified, spring or distilled - or other?

[Guest guest]

You might look up Dr. Revici. You can type in Dr Revici into amazon.com for the

book that Kelley Eidem wrote about Dr Revici. Also you can Google Dr Revici.

Revici monitored pH among other things (blood calcium etc) and looked to see if

the pH was acidic in the morning swinging past 6.2 (center point) and becoming

alkaline in mid afternoon. This is considered normal pH and indicates balance.

If the pH is stuck at acid or stuck at alkaline there is a serious problem and

one may be anabolic or catabolic. If the pH is stuck at alkaline, then evening

primrose oil or borage oil was recommended. If the pH was stuck at acid, then

cod liver oil was recommended.

Dr Revici identified catabolic foods and anabolic foods and also catabolic

vitamins and anabolic vitamins.

His track record was awesome in 'curing' cancer, aids, migranes, etc as well as

improving rheumatoid arthritis etc. His lipid methods destroyed viruses and

bacteria. There were no side effects and it worked rather quickly. He developed

around 17 different lipid medicines. His charges were very modest.

He himself got pneumonia every year due to a virus attack in early life. His

lipid medicines cured it in short order every year. He died in 1998 at the age

of 101 and was active into his upper nineties. All through life he seemed only

to need two hours sleep at night. His work is being carried on in small scale

in Manhattan, NYC and there is a number for appointments.

[Guest guest]

Detwa,

Your question is timely as you'll be able to read all sorts of information on

this topic in a recent Mercola.com article, sensationally entitled " If You Fall

for This 'Water Fad' - You Could Do Some Major Damage, " with the simple added

description " Houston, a leading water filtration expert discusses the pros and

cons of alkaline water. "

Note the disconnect between " water filtration " and water alkanity, making the

purpose of the article (and qualifications of the " expert " ) rather suspect from

the start. As one reader put it, Mercola is rather infamous for sensationalizing

issues which tend to lead to some product he is selling or endorsing.

Notwithstanding this fact, his articles are helpful. Even better, there is a

comments section at the bottom of each article which enables readers to provide

feedback. (The reader feedback comments are often more informative than the

articles themselves.) As of this time, this particular article has a record 416

comments. Click the " View Comments " button to see them.

If you reach a conclusive answer to your question after reading this, please

share it! :-)

URL:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/11/alkaline-water-int\

erview.aspx

TinyURL:

http://tinyurl.com/252ggqb

> I have been committed to distilled water because I had been told and believe/d

that it is the best type of water to drink. Now I've read in a few places that

distilled water is the WORST type to drink, that it leeches minerals from your

body, etc.

>

> Besides alkaline, which is not in my price range at this time, what type of

water is best? Purified, spring or distilled - or other?

[Guest guest]

Cod liver oil will balance the system apparently. However one's system can flip

suddenly (it happened to me) and you might have to go on to borage or evening

primrose oil. You have to be responsive dynamically to what's happening. The

recommendation i saw was a tablespoon of cod liver oil or 3000-6000mg of borage

or evening Primrose Oil.

However, if there is a serious problem it would be better to call manhattan

where they have other tests and lipid medicines. The Revici Life-Science Center,

200 West 57th St., Manhattan, NY, NY 10019 tel: 212-246-5122. The tel number is

ONLY for appointments.

From: jpking@...

Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010

Is cod liver oil increase alkalinity? How much do we need to take to have an

effect?

[Guest guest]

I think the best water is water that's purified or that's gone thru a

high-quality, multistep filter that removes chlorine, " fluoride " , perchlorates,

and other harmful substances.

I think distilled water is NOT good for most people, and I think bottled water's

a bad idea, both because the huge amount of plastic's dreadful for the

environment and because it leaches into the water (and some bottled waters

reportedly aren't much better than tap water).

Multipureco.com looks like a good water filter company. Many people recommend

them.

It's also important to use a shower filter, as a large portion of contaminants

(particularly chlorine) are absorbed thru the skin while showering.

Mulipureco.com sells a shower filter, as do some health-food stores. I use the

www.newwaveenviro.com/premium-shower-filter-p-66.html

which I believe is excellent.

There may be other equally good or better brands.

I think cod liver oil is excellent for cancer patients (and almost everyone

else). Be sure to use a good brand like NordicNaturals.com or Carlsons.com

Leonard

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone:

I am very fortunate to find a breast cancer survivor who refused to go for any

kind of treatment but she bought " Kangen Water " system. She was diagnosed four

years ago with three lumps in her right two and left one. She just changed three

things diet, no sugar and Kangen water. She is 135 Lbs so she drinks 135 Oz of

water everyday because people with health challenges must drink equal Oz of

alkaline water for there total body weight. She went for scan only three times

and the last one was very clear no lumps at all. One thing is for sure one need

to be focused and believe in themselves other then doing every thing right. Be

positive and optimistic keep negative thoughts away for that one should do

meditation and Yoga. 

It is kinda expensive but for me it is worth every penny. I am a colon cancer

survivor and the alkaline water is the key for me to stay away from chemo which

I did not go through. I am going to keep my whole body alkaline so whatever left

over from the surgery will starve to death. I gave up dairy, red meat and sugar

for good. Kangen water and green barley grass from Nikken is my ticket to stay

healthy. Whenever I travel or away from the house I take FERN-C capsules which

make any water into high PH and alkaline I get those from Dr. Victor Barengan

here in Bay Area CA.  

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Good for you! I would love a water system but cannot afford one.

So, this woman with breast cancer. If she still had all three tumors in her

body, how did she know she had breast cancer? Did she biopsy each one?

I ask only because I have discovered that there are people who assume that since

they had a lump that it was cancer. Then they miraculously cured themselves.

But they never really knew if they had cancer at all.

ar

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> Hi everyone:

> I am very fortunate to find a breast cancer survivor who refused to go for any

kind of treatment but she bought " Kangen Water " system. She was diagnosed four

years ago with three lumps in her right two and left one. She just changed three

things diet, no sugar and Kangen water. She is 135 Lbs so she drinks 135 Oz of

water everyday because people with health challenges must drink equal Oz of

alkaline water for there total body weight. She went for scan only three times

and the last one was very clear no lumps at all. One thing is for sure one need

to be focused and believe in themselves other then doing every thing right. Be

positive and optimistic keep negative thoughts away for that one should do

meditation and Yoga. 

> It is kinda expensive but for me it is worth every penny. I am a colon cancer

survivor and the alkaline water is the key for me to stay away from chemo which

I did not go through. I am going to keep my whole body alkaline so whatever left

over from the surgery will starve to death. I gave up dairy, red meat and sugar

for good. Kangen water and green barley grass from Nikken is my ticket to stay

healthy. Whenever I travel or away from the house I take FERN-C capsules which

make any water into high PH and alkaline I get those from Dr. Victor Barengan

here in Bay Area CA.  

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[Guest guest]

Anything but distilled water.........

The majority of the springs in the world emanate from underground limestone

formations, and are some of the purest sources of water.

So take your clue from nature. Alkalinity is a good thing. Distilled water has

been leached of all minerals and/or benefits - and as one writer described it,

very acidic.

>

> I have been committed to distilled water because I had been told and believe/d

that it is the best type of water to drink. Now I've read in a few places that

distilled water is the WORST type to drink, that it leeches minerals from your

body, etc.

>

> Besides alkaline, which is not in my price range at this time, what type of

water is best? Purified, spring or distilled - or other?

>

[Guest guest]

What about prill beads??

BJ

From: arlynsg

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010

Hi ,

Good for you! I would love a water system but cannot afford one.

So, this woman with breast cancer. If she still had all three tumors in her

body, how did she know she had breast cancer? Did she biopsy each one?

I ask only because I have discovered that there are people who assume that

since they had a lump that it was cancer. Then they miraculously cured

themselves. But they never really knew if they had cancer at all.

ar

Patras <peter4peter@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone:

> I am very fortunate to find a breast cancer survivor who refused to go for

any kind of treatment but she bought " Kangen Water " system. She was diagnosed

four years ago with three lumps in her right two and left one. She just changed

three things diet, no sugar and Kangen water. She is 135 Lbs so she drinks 135

Oz of water everyday because people with health challenges must drink equal Oz

of alkaline water for there total body weight. She went for scan only three

times and the last one was very clear no lumps at all. One thing is for sure one

need to be focused and believe in themselves other then doing every thing right.

Be positive and optimistic keep negative thoughts away for that one should do

meditation and Yoga.

> It is kinda expensive but for me it is worth every penny. I am a colon

cancer survivor and the alkaline water is the key for me to stay away from chemo

which I did not go through. I am going to keep my whole body alkaline so

whatever left over from the surgery will starve to death. I gave up dairy, red

meat and sugar for good. Kangen water and green barley grass from Nikken is my

ticket to stay healthy. Whenever I travel or away from the house I take FERN-C

capsules which make any water into high PH and alkaline I get those from Dr.

Victor Barengan here in Bay Area CA.

[Guest guest]

I drink plain old spring well water run throught a filter. Interesting take by

Dr Mercola on all the new water fads.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/11/alkaline-water-int\

erview.aspx

[Guest guest]

I have read that being too acidic is not good and being too alkaline is not any

better. This is the reason why i add 1/8 to 1/4 tsp of baking soda in my

distilled water. It takes the water to 7ph only. Neutral. I slowly put BS,

stir it, let it sit for a few minutes, then test with my ph strip. If it is 7,

i don't add anymore. If below 7 then i add just a trickle more.

I forgot to include in my post to Deborah that i take two tablets of MegaFoods

vitamins and minerals. This brand makes them from food sources which is absorbed

more by the body. I also take MegaFoods B comples 2 pills a day. I feel the

difference between regular supplements and this brand. I am not connected with

them. I just learned from another user.

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> Hi everyone:

> I am very fortunate to find a breast cancer survivor who refused to go for any

kind of treatment but she bought " Kangen Water " system. She was diagnosed four

years ago with three lumps in her right two and left one. She just changed three

things diet, no sugar and Kangen water. She is 135 Lbs so she drinks 135 Oz of

water everyday because people with health challenges must drink equal Oz of

alkaline water for there total body weight. She went for scan only three times

and the last one was very clear no lumps at all. One thing is for sure one need

to be focused and believe in themselves other then doing every thing right. Be

positive and optimistic keep negative thoughts away for that one should do

meditation and Yoga. 

> It is kinda expensive but for me it is worth every penny. I am a colon cancer

survivor and the alkaline water is the key for me to stay away from chemo which

I did not go through. I am going to keep my whole body alkaline so whatever left

over from the surgery will starve to death. I gave up dairy, red meat and sugar

for good. Kangen water and green barley grass from Nikken is my ticket to stay

healthy. Whenever I travel or away from the house I take FERN-C capsules which

make any water into high PH and alkaline I get those from Dr. Victor Barengan

here in Bay Area CA.  

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[Guest guest]

Chuck,

If the water minerals are from limestone, it is " inorganic " which is not too

good for the body. Can clog arteries like inorganic calcium would do. Best to

get organic minerals from fruits and vegetables.

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> > I have been committed to distilled water because I had been told and

believe/d that it is the best type of water to drink. Now I've read in a few

places that distilled water is the WORST type to drink, that it leeches minerals

from your body, etc.

> >

> > Besides alkaline, which is not in my price range at this time, what type of

water is best? Purified, spring or distilled - or other?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have drank distilled water for years, and always put drops of liquid minerals

in each glass, as well as 2 drops of AlkaLife. That way all my water includes

the whole spectrum of minerals, as well as being 7.0 on the pH scale. Also I

know I'm never getting any junk like fluoride in my water, and my water is

healthy to drink!

Pat Haas - near Seattle

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> Anything but distilled water.........

>

> The majority of the springs in the world emanate from underground limestone

formations, and are some of the purest sources of water.

>

> So take your clue from nature. Alkalinity is a good thing. Distilled water

has been leached of all minerals and/or benefits - and as one writer described

it, very acidic.

>

[Guest guest]

LOL, still confused! Everybody has a different opinion! What to do, what to

do? Thanks everyone for weighing in, its an interesting discussion just the

same!

The Kangen water system, like most others, is very expensive - is it not?

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[Guest guest]

Condemning something that is inorganic (not digestible/absorbable) as bad for

the body is not necessarily a truth. There are many elements in foods that are

inorganic, but that does not mean they are bad for the body.

There are many inorganic elements and compounds in the body. Are they bad too

just because they exist in the body? We have a very small amount of gold in our

body. Is that a bad thing, or a positive thing?

Since the body produces and uses electricity, and gold is the most conductive of

all metals, there must be reason for it to be there.

So too with water, for without it we die.

I will wholly disagree that the calcium from the limestone aquifer water hardly

is the cause of plaque buildup. May contribute to arthritis perhaps if we do

not have enough salts to dissolve accumulations, but NOT arterial plaque.

The source of that plaque is POLYUNSATURATED FATS - or rather, man made fats.

[Guest guest]

Why confused? Water is basically just water. I think it was made clear that

one should not consume distilled water without some additive. There are no

" minerals " or benefits to distilled water, in fact, I believe it may do more

harm than good.

A simple science experiment I believe I recall seeing on Mythbusters.

Warning: This could be injurious if you proceed......

Place tap water in a Pyrex dish and set it long enough to boil in the microwave.

It will eventually boil. If you do the same thing with distilled water, it may

never boil. There are no elements in distilled water for tension to develop.

If you take it out of the micro and insert a knife or spoon breaking that

tension, it may just explode.

Some people go out of their way to avoid or include things in their diet. To me

the stress or worry of that is not worth the time or effort. Eat sensibly, eat

fresh when possible, moderation is the key, and follow your cravings for foods.

There is a reason we have those cravings! It is the body telling us we need

something from that food group. Even if it's chocolate!!!!!

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> LOL, still confused! Everybody has a different opinion! What to do, what to

do? Thanks everyone for weighing in, its an interesting discussion just the

same!

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> The Kangen water system, like most others, is very expensive - is it not?

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I just tried this experiment myself, LOL. The water boiled just like the

water from my tap.

I don't think anything was made clear except that we all have different opinions

and reasons for the water that we choose to drink. I guess I could make a table

and chart how many are For or Against, but at first look, what I'm seeing is

that there is no " correct " answer right now. I don't know who an authority

would be, since I've seen conflicting opinions from many authorities. I guess I

thought the answer would be more overwhelmingly for one or the other!

I started drinking distilled water when I was dx'd with cancer, so it wasn't the

water that initially had any effect on my health. Since then, I've drank

distilled almost exclusively, and can't say that it has deteriorated it in any

way specifically. But its interesting to me how passionate some people are

about their disdain for it. One woman at the Mercola article said that it would

kill you quickly!!!

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> > Place tap water in a Pyrex dish and set it long enough to boil in the

> > microwave. It will eventually boil. If you do the same thing with

> > distilled water, it may never boil. There are no elements in distilled

> > water for tension to develop. If you take it out of the micro and insert

> > a knife or spoon breaking that tension, it may just explode.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

IF you are planning on drinking water boiled in the Microwave, consider

this first.

Look at this web site on Microwaved water and plants and consider it

doing the same in the human body.

http://www.rense.com/general70/microwaved.htm

Also is this about a woman who died from a blood transfusion.

http://curezone.com/foods/microwave_oven_risk.asp

In 1991, there was a lawsuit in Oklahoma concerning the hospital use of

a microwave oven to warm blood needed in a transfusion. The case

involved a hip surgery patient, Norma Levitt, who died from a simple

blood transfusion. It seems the nurse had warmed the blood in a

microwave oven. This tragedy makes it very apparent that there's much

more to " heating " with microwaves than we've been led to believe. Blood

for transfusions is routinely warmed, but not in microwave ovens. In the

case of Mrs. Levitt, the microwaving altered the blood and it killed

her.

It's very obvious that this form of microwave radiation " heating " does

something to the substances it heats. It's also becoming quite apparent

that people who process food in a microwave oven are also ingesting

these " unknowns " .

Read the whole article on Microwaves.

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> Yes, I just tried this experiment myself, LOL. The water boiled just

like the water from my tap.

>

> I don't think anything was made clear except that we all have

different opinions and reasons for the water that we choose to drink. I

guess I could make a table and chart how many are For or Against, but at

first look, what I'm seeing is that there is no " correct " answer right

now. I don't know who an authority would be, since I've seen

conflicting opinions from many authorities. I guess I thought the

answer would be more overwhelmingly for one or the other!

>

> I started drinking distilled water when I was dx'd with cancer, so it

wasn't the water that initially had any effect on my health. Since

then, I've drank distilled almost exclusively, and can't say that it has

deteriorated it in any way specifically. But its interesting to me how

passionate some people are about their disdain for it. One woman at the

Mercola article said that it would kill you quickly!!!

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> > > Place tap water in a Pyrex dish and set it long enough to boil in

the

> > > microwave. It will eventually boil. If you do the same thing with

> > > distilled water, it may never boil. There are no elements in

distilled

> > > water for tension to develop. If you take it out of the micro and

insert

> > > a knife or spoon breaking that tension, it may just explode.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here's the Youtube experiment. It's about whether there are impurities in the

water.

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> Yes, I just tried this experiment myself, LOL. The water boiled just like the

water from my tap.

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you. There is no real science in this science experiment. I have

had many plants and seedlings do the same using the same exact soil and water in

both. One lives, the other dies. There are many urban legends to this fabled

experiment........

Snopes.com, the urban legend busters recreated the experiment, also mentioned

the blood heating reference. Heating the blood too quickly can cause hemolysis

- expedited degradation of the blood cells.

Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp

Blood is very sensitive to heat, so yes heating it in a microwave is stupid.

Hemolysis:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002372.htm

Microwave ovens essentially work by creating motion amongst the molecules, which

in turns creates friction, thus heat. Frozen food liquids take the longest to

heat as the molecules are not in a free state.

Avoid defrosting food in a micro, especially meats. No matter what you do, the

meat will be dry and tasteless. Thawing meat and most other foods in any manner

too fast ruptures the cell membranes, the water seeps out, leaving meat dry when

cooked.

Proper thawing is to put it in the fridge 1-2 days before cooking. When

cooking, the rules apply in reverse - allow the meat to rise to room temperature

before grilling for the juiciest steaks and meats. Avoid tossing that steak on

the grill right from the fridge..........

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> Greetings,

> I have to laugh every time I see the blood transfusion refereed to as

> evidence. Cooked blood will kill you, I have never put anything in a

> microwave that couldn't be cooked, because I can guarantee at least a

> couple of cells will be cooked. Common sense says that is nothing but

> junk science.