Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 ESSIAC- http://www.amazon.com/Essiac-Native-Herbal-Cancer-Remedy/dp/189094100X Read the book! Compelling! Convincing! Recipe can be combersome,...If purchasing buy it from the original toronto distributor! This therapy is so easy to augment with other substances,...pau de arco, or cinnamon oil, liquid cesium, or chlorophyll!! Few drops of liquid DMSO and quite possibly peroxide drops, olive leaf extract, coconut oil , goji berry powder,...etc. Active ingredients: Amino acids, polyphenols, mineral oxides, mineral sulfates, oxalates, sterols, polysacharides, chlorophyll, other minerals, a-quinone, and more! If you chug it it will give you diahrea. The cinnamon oil is awsome to help flavor it up and will allow you to add other things to the tea. Sip on it all day long. As far as interaction with other therapies,...really none! But the chlorophyll will bind to certain medications, blood thinners especially. But,..get the book! Read it for fifteen minutes! Has anyone here cured their cancer with Essiac or sence. I've been reading that it can actually promote the growth of breast tumors. They did a test on Mice in California the the group being fed the sence had an 82% tumor growth rate and the group not being fed it had a 71% tumor growth rat. They injected the rats with cancer causing chemicals. I'm taking sence for IDC. Thanks! Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 sence has red clover in it. Something that should not be used with estrogen (hormonal) cancers I do not think the original essiac does. Cheri > > Has anyone here cured their cancer with Essiac or sence. I've been reading that it can actually promote the growth of breast tumors. They did a test on Mice in California the the group being fed the sence had an 82% tumor growth rate and the group not being fed it had a 71% tumor growth rat. They injected the rats with cancer causing chemicals. I'm taking sence for IDC. > > Thanks! > > Louise > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I had an elderly client who's daughter had breast cancer, She still keeps in touch. She swears by the flouressence. Was in my office. Has been in remission for six years. I cannot remember what traditional treatments she had to augment her treatment, but she still drinks it every day! If I even suggest she switch to ESSIAC she tells me where to go! It aint a nice place! Has anyone here cured their cancer with Essiac or sence. I've been reading that it can actually promote the growth of breast tumors. They did a test on Mice in California the the group being fed the sence had an 82% tumor growth rate and the group not being fed it had a 71% tumor growth rat. They injected the rats with cancer causing chemicals. I'm taking sence for IDC. Thanks! Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I've read on the Sloan Kettering website that red clover acts as a phytoestrogen therefore should not be used. However, flaxseed is also a phytoestrogen and we all know it is great for breast cancer. Can anyone shed light on this. Are the allopathic guys skewing stats or is there a real argument in not using sence with the Red Clover. Thanks! Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Remember that there is more than one type of breast cancer. So, the breast tumors that grew, were they hormone driven or triple negative? ar > > Has anyone here cured their cancer with Essiac or sence. I've been reading that it can actually promote the growth of breast tumors. They did a test on Mice in California the the group being fed the sence had an 82% tumor growth rate and the group not being fed it had a 71% tumor growth rat. They injected the rats with cancer causing chemicals. I'm taking sence for IDC. > Thanks! > Louise > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 > > Remember that there is more than one type of breast cancer. So, the breast tumors that grew, were they hormone driven or triple negative? Well that's the handy thing about those scientists posting their studies. In layman's terms, it doesn't say but there are some big words there that I am clueless on. I'd sure like to know. Here is one of the websites: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16541326. All of the cancer organization websites cite similar studies but I can't figure out what kind of breast cancer they studied. I do know even though flaxseed is a phytoestrogen, it actually " switches off " the bad estrogens. Don't ask me how, it just does. Here's a website about that: http://www.flaxcouncil.ca/english/pdf/Flax_FSht_Lignans08_R2.pdf Louise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Well, Louise, that was a freakishly complicated conclusion! Here is what it said: RESULTS: Flor-Essence and Essiac herbal tonics at 1%, 2%, 4% and 8% stimulated cell proliferation relative to untreated controls in both estrogen receptor positive (MCF-7 and T47D) and estrogen receptor negative (MDA-MB-231 and MDA-MB-436) cell lines. Exposure to the tonics also produced a dose-dependent increase in ER dependent luciferase activity in MCF-7 cells. A 10(-7) M concentration of ICI 182,780 inhibited the induction of ER dependent luciferase activity by Flor-Essence and Essiac, but did not affect cell proliferation. CONCLUSION: Flor-Essence and Essiac Herbal Tonics can stimulate the growth of human breast cancer cells through ER mediated as well as ER independent mechanisms of action. I interpret this as: Cell proliferation happened with both hormone dependent and triple negative cancers. ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Ar, So...should we with Breast Cancer abstain from sence & Essiac? Or do you know if all their tests are trustworthy? Do tests in mice bode the same as in humans? I was going to go out and get some Essiac. Do you or did you work in the health industry, you must have to interpret that. Louise > > > Well, Louise, that was a freakishly complicated conclusion! Here is > what it said: > > RESULTS: Flor-Essence and Essiac herbal tonics at 1%, 2%, 4% and 8% > stimulated cell proliferation relative to untreated controls in both > estrogen receptor positive (MCF-7 and T47D) and estrogen receptor > negative (MDA-MB-231 and MDA-MB-436) cell lines. Exposure to the tonics > also produced a dose-dependent increase in ER dependent luciferase > activity in MCF-7 cells. A 10(-7) M concentration of ICI 182,780 > inhibited the induction of ER dependent luciferase activity by > Flor-Essence and Essiac, but did not affect cell proliferation. > CONCLUSION: Flor-Essence and Essiac Herbal Tonics can stimulate the > growth of human breast cancer cells through ER mediated as well as ER > independent mechanisms of action. > > I interpret this as: > > Cell proliferation happened with both hormone dependent and triple > negative cancers. > > > > ar > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 > > Ar, > > So...should we with Breast Cancer abstain from sence & Essiac? Or do you know if all their tests are trustworthy? Do tests in mice bode the same as in humans? I was going to go out and get some Essiac. Do you or did you work in the health industry, you must have to interpret that. > > Louise I have NOT worked in the health care industry. I am just someone diagnosed with breast cancer. And with all of us, we become experts on our own cancer. But I lack the understanding and comprehension of science to interpret things all the way. Mike, on the otherhand, does work in the industry and he has provided valuable information a few posts above this one. As to whether you decide to take it or not, that is completely up to you. Do you have active cancer? or, are you trying to keep cancer from coming back? I met a woman whose mother was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer and given only 6 months to live. She went vegetarian raw and took Essiac and outlived her prognosis. I have not stayed in touch with the woman, but I would love to know how her mother did. I think that many of us have to go with our guts on what we should and should not ingest. I instictively knew to stay away from Tamoxifen, and I love Calcium D-Glucarate. New studies are showing Tamoxifen to be a good thing. But I just know that if I were to take it, I would have something go wrong. So, perhaps the thing to do is to try Essiac and listen to your intuition and decide if it is the right thing for you. ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Flaxseed is not changed at all when mixed with cottage cheese. That is something that somehow was said on the flaxseed site and repeated. I tried the BP diet. One of my tumors tripled in size. I also had mets to the sentinal node. I went off the BP diet and still use flaxseed but not mixed with cottage cheese. I use both flaxseed oil and high epa/dha fish oil. There's a documentated case of an 80+ year old man curing his lung cancer with high epa/dha fish oil. There was a study done with Flaxseed muffins and it was noted that this had anti-tumor effects as well. Note: the flaxseed was cooked and it still worked to some degree. Louise > Red Clover is definitely a phytoestrogen. Flaxseed oil as I understand it, > changes the way it works in the body when mixed with the cottage cheese or > quark. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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