Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 There are some 120 natural glucosinolates (Wikipedia) with many different activities -- some toxic. It is usually smarter to avoid speculation when you can just go with the extensive research that has been done on the use of sulforaphane/broccoli/b.sprouts or the wide variety of cruciferous vegetables that are easily available to all. This is to be used with the tNOX inhibitors capsaicin (plain old everyday cayenne pepper will do), and EGCg (epigallocatechin gallate) which is the extract of green tea and also easily available. This combination of the cruciferous veggies, red pepper, and green tea is hard to beat because it can't be banned by the government agencies, any improvements would likely be minor and would not justify the cost, it keeps out hucksters, it puts the patient in the driver's seat, and it is easily verifiable by tracking down the source documents from the patent literature: http://www.europatentbox.com/patent/EP1789064A1/description/647205.html Suggestions for those interested: Go with the broccoli juice as it is a nuisance to grow sprouts. Don't start the cayenne and the green tea extract at the same time: both can be hard on the digestive track and you would be trading one type of misery for another. On the other hand if you are the kind of person who relishes misery you can add bloodroot extract (sanguinarine) to the brew and really waterboard your bowels. Over the years I've acquired a great respect for Pepto-Bismol -- that's something else the government would have to pry from my cold dead hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 , you write: " Don't start the cayenne and the green tea extract at the same time: both can be hard on the digestive track and you would be trading one type of misery for another " . ----by same time, do you mean same time of the day, meaning taken (combined) together, or do you mean start them a few days apart? Thanks, Gubi Re: [ ] sulforaphane There are some 120 natural glucosinolates (Wikipedia) with many different activities -- some toxic. It is usually smarter to avoid speculation when you can just go with the extensive research that has been done on the use of sulforaphane/broccoli/b.sprouts or the wide variety of cruciferous vegetables that are easily available to all. This is to be used with the tNOX inhibitors capsaicin (plain old everyday cayenne pepper will do), and EGCg (epigallocatechin gallate) which is the extract of green tea and also easily available. This combination of the cruciferous veggies, red pepper, and green tea is hard to beat because it can't be banned by the government agencies, any improvements would likely be minor and would not justify the cost, it keeps out hucksters, it puts the patient in the driver's seat, and it is easily verifiable by tracking down the source documents from the patent literature: http://www.europatentbox.com/patent/EP1789064A1/description/647205.html Suggestions for those interested: Go with the broccoli juice as it is a nuisance to grow sprouts. Don't start the cayenne and the green tea extract at the same time: both can be hard on the digestive track and you would be trading one type of misery for another. On the other hand if you are the kind of person who relishes misery you can add bloodroot extract (sanguinarine) to the brew and really waterboard your bowels. Over the years I've acquired a great respect for Pepto-Bismol -- that's something else the government would have to pry from my cold dead hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 makes sense what you write. I can't take cayenne though, because I had been on aspirin for too long. Is there a cap which passes the stomach and dissolves only in the digestive tract? thanks > > There are some 120 natural glucosinolates (Wikipedia) with many > different activities -- some toxic. It is usually smarter to avoid > speculation when you can just go with the extensive research that has > been done on the use of sulforaphane/broccoli/b.sprouts or the wide > variety of cruciferous vegetables that are easily available to all. > > This is to be used with the tNOX inhibitors capsaicin (plain old > everyday cayenne pepper will do), and EGCg (epigallocatechin gallate) > which is the extract of green tea and also easily available. This > combination of the cruciferous veggies, red pepper, and green tea is > hard to beat because it can't be banned by the government agencies, > any improvements would likely be minor and would not justify the > cost, it keeps out hucksters, it puts the patient in the driver's > seat, and it is easily verifiable by tracking down the source > documents from the patent literature: > > http://www.europatentbox.com/patent/EP1789064A1/description/647205.html > > Suggestions for those interested: > > Go with the broccoli juice as it is a nuisance to grow > sprouts. Don't start the cayenne and the green tea extract at the > same time: both can be hard on the digestive track and you would be > trading one type of misery for another. On the other hand if you are > the kind of person who relishes misery you can add bloodroot extract > (sanguinarine) to the brew and really waterboard your bowels. Over > the years I've acquired a great respect for Pepto-Bismol -- that's > something else the government would have to pry from my cold dead hands. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 , Cap cayenne into standard gelcaps. Dissolve shellac into alcohol. Spray. Dry. At 02:30 PM 6/24/2010, you wrote: > > >makes sense what you write. I can't take cayenne though, because I >had been on aspirin for too long. Is there a cap which passes the >stomach and dissolves only in the digestive tract? >thanks > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 I may have missed something. Is there a problem with regular gelatin caps of cayenne dissolving in the stomach other than discomfort? -------------------------------------------------- From: " VGammill " <vgammill@...> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:27 PM < > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: sulforaphane > , > Cap cayenne into standard gelcaps. Dissolve shellac into > alcohol. Spray. Dry. > > > At 02:30 PM 6/24/2010, you wrote: >> >> >>makes sense what you write. I can't take cayenne though, because I >>had been on aspirin for too long. Is there a cap which passes the >>stomach and dissolves only in the digestive tract? >>thanks >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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