Re: Serious Cavities subsequent to radiation in June 2007

[Guest guest]

I wish I knew of alternatives. Did you brush your teeth frequently enough? Did

you use a mouthwash regularly? If it were me, I'd get the teeth fixed and hope

to avoid a root canal.

Walter

@...: aug20@...: Thu, 3 Apr 2008

14:21:01 +0000Subject: [ ] Serious Cavities subsequent to radiation in

June 2007

I had a close look at my teeth last night, subsequent to realizing I am

suffering from salivary gland atrophy from radiation done last year, and I could

see with the naked eye significant cavities in my teeth. I hate to go to a

dentist and get all kinds of expensive work done on my teeth. It even seems to

me that having my teeth drilled and filled in the past has led to infection of

the nerve later on and to the necessity of either having the tooth pulled or

getting a root canal. Neither of those is a good option to me. And since I do

not intend to get any more amalgam/mercury fillings, I would get some other

material, and I understand other material does not last nearly as long as

amalgams, meaning I would have to have more work done on the same teeth years

from now.My question is this: Is there anything I can do or take to halt the

progress of the existing cavities into my teeth? Or is it foolhardy not to get

the cavities treated? I have seen something called OraMD. The company makes very

strong claims about the product with regard to its bacteria-killing

ability.Thanks to all members for any thoughts on this problem.Elliot

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Walter.

I have been a " tooth fanatic. " I have taken excellent care of my teeth.

Chemotherapy and radiation have done much damage. Parts of the teeth

that should not be exposed are exposed. I guess I am going to have to

bite the bullet and take myself to a dentist.

Elliot

[Guest guest]

I face an expensive Crown situation due to a broke tooth and spoke with both the

Hygienist as well as the Dentist re fillings and Root Canals.

This office claims 'they don't use, meaning others too, Amalgam fillings any

more and that is good. Of course they claim there's nothing to the root

canal/infection beneath it concerns. I cannot refute them so I did not get

into it.

I'm a lot older and have had few teeth pulled and only because that's what they

did back then in the military. I should have no teeth missing according to our

dentist of 34 years. By most standards, the way I care for my teeth they should

all be rotting except I have always followed Consumer Reports and used Baking

Soda (BiCarb) and Peroxide as my toothpaste. Whenever I feel 'sensitive'

teeth I sometimes use Sensodyne which fills the tiny cracks everyone has in the

enamel or of late, swab the affected teeth with Oregano Oil mixed with Olive Oil

and that takes care of it.

Why not try doing the Oregano/Olive Oil in a 10:1 ration of 10 drops Olive Oil

to 1 drop Oregano Oil and give it some time to work on the gums but I don't

know about the cavities. Good luck. My Crown, because I broke a tooth last

week, is a $910 job!

Joe

[Guest guest]

" breathedeepnow " wrote:

> My question is this: Is there anything I can do or take to halt the

> progress of the existing cavities into my teeth? Elliot

I haven't tried this, so I cannot vouch for it but you could google

Gerard F. Judd , Ph. D., it's worth looking into.

[Guest guest]

I learned from my dentist that an insufficiency of saliva (from taking

a diuretic for example)means higher concentration of acids and sugars

on the teeth and thus cavities. She recommended very frequent rinsing

and/or brushing of the teeth as well as drinking plenty of water. I

usually rinse my mouth with a dilute solution of xylitol in water.

This sugar kills most oral and nasal bacteria by blocking their

metabolism according to many sources.

My acrylic or composite fillings have lasted for more than 7 years.

Gold fillings last much longer.

All the best,

Jon

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jon.

Funny thing is that my saliva measures 7.8 pH! Yes, I am doing frequent

brushing of teeth with anti-cavity toothpaste, rinsing with xylitol

anti-cavity mouthwash, drinking plenty of water, chewing xylitol gum,

etc. Problem is not easy to solve for me, apparently. Thanks to all for

your suggestions. If anyone has any more, please feel free to comment.

Thanks and best of health,

Elliot

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[Guest guest]

Elliot,

I do not know where you stand with trying couple of products from the drug

store: Salivart (oral moisturizer) and or Vince (gum and mouth care).

They may give you temporary help.

Gloria

>From: breathedeepnow

>Funny thing is that my saliva measures 7.8 pH! Yes, I am doing frequent

brushing of teeth with anti-cavity toothpaste, rinsing with xylitol anti-cavity

mouthwash, drinking plenty of water, chewing xylitol gum, etc. Problem is not

easy to solve for me, apparently. Thanks to all for your suggestions. If anyone

has any more, please feel free to comment.

[Guest guest]

Elliot- You seemed skeptical about oil pulling, but why not give it a

try? The secret for me is to close off the back of my throat while

swishing, may take practice. OP has taken away sensitivity in my

teeth.

Also I just bought an Uncle Harry product claiming to remineralize

teeth. There are also herbal preparations that claim to help teeth

and gums.

While fluoride is denigrated, it can actually harden cavities, I've

seen the results on my son's teeth when small, both before and after

xrays. The fluoride Act remineralizing mouthwash could be used for a

while to harden cavities? I was using it despite bad press before I

started oil pulling.

Tooth soap advocates claim that glycerin and Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in

regular toothpastes prevent remineralization.

People in my colloidal silver group claim swishing CS helps kill bad

bacteria in their mouth and help with gum disease. I'm currently

trying to remember to swish it at bedtime and when arising, before I do

my oil pulling.

I wake up 3-4 times every night with a totally dry mouth and have to

swish some water around that I keep by my bedside. I don't seem to

sleep with an open mouth, so would this mean my salivary glands are not

working or is this normal at night?

On Apr 3, 2008, at 6:21 AM, breathedeepnow wrote:

> I had a close look at my teeth last night, subsequent to realizing I

> am suffering from salivary gland atrophy from radiation done last

> year, and I could see with the naked eye significant cavities in my

> teeth.

>

> I hate to go to a dentist and get all kinds of expensive work done on

> my teeth. It even seems to me that having my teeth drilled and filled

> in the past has led to infection of the nerve later on and to the

> necessity of either having the tooth pulled or getting a root canal.

> Neither of those is a good option to me. And since I do not intend to

> get any more amalgam/mercury fillings, I would get some other

> material, and I understand other material does not last nearly as

> long as amalgams, meaning I would have to have more work done on the

> same teeth years from now.

>

> My question is this: Is there anything I can do or take to halt the

> progress of the existing cavities into my teeth? Or is it foolhardy

> not to get the cavities treated? I have seen something called OraMD.

> The company makes very strong claims about the product with regard to

> its bacteria-killing ability.

>

> Thanks to all members for any thoughts on this problem.

[Guest guest]

With a salivary pH of 7.8, I would recommend a HCl based digestive aid;

whether or not there is pepsin or anything else with the HCl is up to you.

It's obvious you are doing a lot of plants and green things. :0) Hope your

teeth aren't stained...

jp

> Hi, Jon.

>

> Funny thing is that my saliva measures 7.8 pH! Yes, I am doing frequent

> brushing of teeth with anti-cavity toothpaste, rinsing with xylitol

> anti-cavity mouthwash, drinking plenty of water, chewing xylitol gum,

> etc. Problem is not easy to solve for me, apparently. Thanks to all for

> your suggestions. If anyone has any more, please feel free to comment.

>

> Thanks and best of health,

>

> Elliot

>

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[Guest guest]

Elliot

Whenever I go to the dentist, I always pick the brian of the

hygenist. I went last week. I found a better way to " brush " my

gums. She said to angle the toothbrush towards the gums and push the

gums gently so they are white. Keep the toothbrush on the gums and

gently rotate the brush so you are basically massaging the gums. So

far I notice a big difference. Also there is not better thing to do

than brush your teeth first thing in the morning and after EVERY time

you eat especially sugar. Floss every day. I read one testimonial

that said one lady just chewed xylitol gum and had no cavities and

did not floss, although I do not recommend not flossing. I have been

told I have a cavity and then took extra good care of my teeth and

next time I did not have a cavity. It hardened. If the cavity is

exposed to saliva then you have a good chance of reversing the cavity.

GB

>

> Hi, Walter.

>

> I have been a " tooth fanatic. " I have taken excellent care of my

teeth.

>

> Chemotherapy and radiation have done much damage. Parts of the

teeth

> that should not be exposed are exposed. I guess I am going to have

to

> bite the bullet and take myself to a dentist.

>

> Elliot

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, GB.

Excellent idea to pick the brain of the hygienist.

I do the same. One hygienist told me that brushing the way you

describe for 3 minutes daily breaks up the colonies of bacteria so

that they cannot do damage. So when I brush my teeth, I watch the

clock, and I always brush for at least 3 minutes.

I also floss a couple of times daily, chew xylitol gum, and use anti-

cavity toothpaste and mouthwash.

Best of health,

Elliot

" Guru K " wrote:

> Elliot

> Whenever I go to the dentist, I always pick the brian of the

> hygenist. I went last week. I found a better way to " brush " my

> gums. She said to angle the toothbrush towards the gums and push

the gums gently so they are white. Keep the toothbrush on the gums and gently

rotate the brush so you are basically massaging the gums.

So far I notice a big difference. Also there is not better thing to

do than brush your teeth first thing in the morning and after EVERY

time you eat especially sugar. Floss every day. I read one testimonial that

said one lady just chewed xylitol gum and had no cavities and did not floss,

although I do not recommend not flossing. I have been told I have a cavity and

then took extra good care of my teeth and next time I did not have a cavity. It

hardened. If the cavity is exposed to saliva then you have a good chance of

reversing the cavity.

[Guest guest]

Elliot,

I also love my " waterpik ultra " . You can get it at Target for about $40.

Perhaps desolving some xylitol in the water and than using this in waterpik

would would be helpful. Also, check out herb called " neem " .

Gloria

>From: breathedeepnow

>Hi, GB.

>Excellent idea to pick the brain of the hygienist.

>I do the same. One hygienist told me that brushing the way you

>describe for 3 minutes daily breaks up the colonies of bacteria so

>that they cannot do damage. So when I brush my teeth, I watch the

>clock, and I always brush for at least 3 minutes.

>I also floss a couple of times daily, chew xylitol gum, and use anti-

>cavity toothpaste and mouthwash.

>Best of health, Elliot

[Guest guest]

Hi Elliot

I received this link in my mail this morning. It's a long article but there

are recommendations near the end for keeping teeth strong. I have a lot of

problems with my own teeth so may look into it myself. I have read

previously about the transdermal magnesium being very good and did look into

buying some a few months ago but it is VERY expensive.

http://www.naturalnews.com/022938.html

Joni

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