Re: Prostate Cancer: Virus now implicated in some cases...

[Guest guest]

We continually bring up questions that are simply answered. Biopsies spread

cancer cells and if we now add Viruses, now we know, they too may be spread.

What must not be missed is the word 'present' when saying, The " Virus is

present " and that is why some diseases are named. They find a virus and name

the illness as caused by the virus and if not found, a different name is given

it.

Many illnesses have exactly the same symptoms and why? Why wouldn't they since

certain parts of the body are involved and if as some believe, the symptoms are

nothing more than the body defending itself, then it makes sense for similar

symptoms when in reality it is one illness............the body riding itself of

various toxins. Doing its best to survive.

When I declined a 'mapping biopsy' of my bladder and of my prostate because of

the potential of spreading cancer cells, the Urologist agreed but tried to get

me to allow it because, as he said, " I take precautions by using a lot of water

to wash away cells " . ?? Thanks but no thanks.

Someday it will be agreed that since Viruses/Bacteria are omnipresent, around us

all the time, perhaps it is as Pasteur was supposed to have said, " it is the

environment " which would mean it is the body not the germ with that germ being

only secondary at most. There is no virus that when present always causes

illness or a reaction and since that is the case, it cannot be blamed for the

illness. It's the environment. It might be strongly contributory, but it

cannot be 'THE' cause. I quoted Pasteur but cannot prove he actually said it

was the environment.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Pasteur may have said that in his last years, but it was another

researcher from whom he " stole " the germs idea who came up with it. Rife

also said it years later, that by changing the body's pH levels, he

could bring about disease. I actually think both ideas are correct,

that the healthy body can fight off almost anything, but for most of us,

exposure to the bad stuff (germs, virii) can bring about a case of that

particular disease...

-Dave

JCastron1 wrote:

> We continually bring up questions that are simply answered. Biopsies spread

cancer cells and if we now add Viruses, now we know, they too may be spread.

>

> What must not be missed is the word 'present' when saying, The " Virus is

present " and that is why some diseases are named. They find a virus and name

the illness as caused by the virus and if not found, a different name is given

it.

>

> Many illnesses have exactly the same symptoms and why? Why wouldn't they

since certain parts of the body are involved and if as some believe, the

symptoms are nothing more than the body defending itself, then it makes sense

for similar symptoms when in reality it is one illness............the body

riding itself of various toxins. Doing its best to survive.

>

> When I declined a 'mapping biopsy' of my bladder and of my prostate because of

the potential of spreading cancer cells, the Urologist agreed but tried to get

me to allow it because, as he said, " I take precautions by using a lot of water

to wash away cells " . ?? Thanks but no thanks.

>

> Someday it will be agreed that since Viruses/Bacteria are omnipresent, around

us all the time, perhaps it is as Pasteur was supposed to have said, " it is the

environment " which would mean it is the body not the germ with that germ being

only secondary at most. There is no virus that when present always causes

illness or a reaction and since that is the case, it cannot be blamed for the

illness. It's the environment. It might be strongly contributory, but it

cannot be 'THE' cause. I quoted Pasteur but cannot prove he actually said it

was the environment.

>

> Joe C.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think while this is true, also it is important to get Vit D levels checked. 

Zinc should be added, and Bromine Laced foods avoided.  Food manufacturers are

loading up on the cheap corn sweetener HFCS, and this is killing us.  Look at

Mercola.com for Vitamin D

and Iodine.  Iodine has been replaced with bromine, like in chlorine, florine,

etc.

 

I have attached a slide show. Look at how the food industry is screwing us!

 

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> We continually bring up questions that are simply answered. Biopsies spread

cancer cells and if we now add Viruses, now we know, they too may be spread.

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting!

BK virus seems implicated in this .

Study :

BK Virus as a Cofactor in the Etiology of Prostate Cancer in Its Early Stage

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A survey of 400 healthy blood donors was reported as showing that 82% were

positive for BK virus.

Study :

^ Egli A, Infanti L, Dumoulin A, et al. (2009). " Prevalence of polyomavirus BK

and JC infection and replication in 400 healthy blood donors " . J Infect Dis 199

(6): 837–846.

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the National Academy of Sciences think prostate cancer

http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/types/prostate may be related to a

virus <http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/alllife/virus.html>. Scientists at Columbia

University and the University of Utah have determined that a virus that's

already known to cause certain other cancers in animals is present in human

prostate cancer cells. "

Which begs the question - does a needle biopsy of any cancer tumor

spread the virus?

The medical community has been telling us for years that cancer is not a virus,

although it is known for certain that some cancers ARE indeed virus linked....

Interesting!

[Guest guest]

We already know that biopsy can spread cancer cells so that's enough for me.

Why would I want the risk of that knowing that if it does, the problem can be

worse than cancer existing before the biopsy but unknown. You've heard the

following from me before: Do you know the percentage of people getting

Metastasis from a biopsy?

The answer: 100%..........for the unlucky person that it happens to. A play

on words of course but strong enough considering that many prostate cancers are

a 'watchful waiting' situation. As always, this is a decision each person

needs to make themselves just as the ultimate decision as to what course to take

when cancer is discovered.

Joe C.