Re: The 10 deadliest cancers and why there's no cure

[Guest guest]

I hate those stupid telethons. They lead people to believe that throwing more

money at cancer will miraculously find a cure. It makes me so mad and they

collect so much money!

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> Posted by MSNBC in coordination with the " Stand Up to Cancer Telethon "

> that was on the major networks earlier this evening. Of course, our view

> and their view of the " why there's no cure " , or for that matter, whether

> a cure might already actually exist, may be somewhat different . . .

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> The 10 deadliest cancers and why there's no cure - MSNBC Articles

> http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1 & aid=39102353

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[Guest guest]

The drug that has saved my life, Herceptin, is a drug which was funded by Revlon

initially. If it were not for this funding and the creation of this drug - I

would have been dead about 3 months ago. They are starting to do a lot of good

with the money, especially in regards to targeted treatments.

Best wishes

Fern

From: detwa_3017

Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010

I hate those stupid telethons. They lead people to believe that throwing more

money at cancer will miraculously find a cure. It makes me so mad and they

collect so much money!

robert-blau@... wrote:

>

> Posted by MSNBC in coordination with the " Stand Up to Cancer Telethon " that

was on the major networks earlier this evening. Of course, our view and their

view of the " why there's no cure " , or for that matter, whether a cure might

already actually exist, may be somewhat different . . .

>

> The 10 deadliest cancers and why there's no cure - MSNBC Articles

> http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1 & aid=39102353

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not crazy about the telethon format either, BUT, a cure for cancer can only

come through basic science and clinical research, which needs a lot of money.

One of the things that SU2C does is fund innovative cancer research grants.

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> > Posted by MSNBC in coordination with the " Stand Up to Cancer Telethon "

> > that was on the major networks earlier this evening. Of course, our view

> > and their view of the " why there's no cure " , or for that matter, whether

> > a cure might already actually exist, may be somewhat different . . .

> >

> > The 10 deadliest cancers and why there's no cure - MSNBC Articles

> > http://news.mobile.msn.com/en-us/articles.aspx?afid=1 & aid=39102353

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Let's look at the word " BUT " and ask what is that saying? I'm an old codger and

have been watching 'Medical fakery' going on for the past 60+ years. Of that

Cancer is the 'New Kid On The Street' in this game.

The concerted War On Cancer is now almost 40 years old. During those 40 years,

BILLIONS of dollars have been collected and a goodly portion of that

spent........a lot of it spent on social activities, but nevertheless, one heck

of a lot of money.

It is simply too broad a statement to state that " a cure " , assuming that is even

a possibility, can come through " basic science and clinical research " which

might have a bit of validity if they 'wanted' to actually accomplish a 'cure'.

What around us tells us that people want to end problems? The War on Drugs

which is growing not diminishing? The recipients of these billions of dollars

do not want to kill the 'cash cow'.

To be sure there are individuals that must be earnestly striving for this event,

however, past experiences have taught us that the 'system' crushes anything that

does not speak to big dollars for the coffers of Big Pharma. We constantly

hear the following...... " there is little incentive to explore cheap,

non-profitable treatments for cancer " and I suspect the same applies

to any other illness of the body where hundreds of millions of dollars are made

treating annually.

Is there anyone that actually believes The American Cancer Society actually

wants to close its doors?

Writing as I am doing can quickly lead one to say........Ah ha, just another

kook talking. Perhaps, but the facts speak for themselves.

Over the years much of the so-called advances in Cancer Treatment have come from

'Statistical Manipulation' For ages, the 'System' used the Five Year Survival

Rate so that if one lived beyond the five years, it was considered a cure even

if a person died one day after that. The second event was considered a new

cancer.

Now, with very specialized diagnostic tools, cancers can be found years earlier.

The trick used here is to add those 'early years on to the expected survival and

viola, people are now living longer. No, they have simply had a couple of

more years of early detection onto what they already knew the patient would live

and, for example, if one had a five year survival expectancy, they now had seven

or eight. No change at all.

Have there been advances? Of course and in many cases one can say, 'they are

killing less because of the drugs now used vs older drugs. In some cases

there is probably the reverse going on. Most of the advances have come in those

very special cancers that are less common. Another area of improvement is in

surgery and better techniques to minimize

'Seeding', the spreading of cancer cells because of invasive practices. It is

now recognized that many of the cases of secondary bladder tumors come from the

original removal of the first tumor. Thanks a lot.

We have to jump in from time to time so that people do not fall for the Cancer

Industry's hype because there is enough evidence for us to examine to realize

what is going on is not doing the job. Basic science? Only if they are

truly interested in bringing about 'real' answers and not simply money-making

answers. It's always the money.

Go Google The Australian Oncologist's Report on Chemotherapy because they flat

out stated, " We have to do something different because this isn't working " .

Exactly how much do you think is being spent on Curcumin, NAC, Asparagus,

Broccoli compared to the popular and expensive drugs? If you do serious

research you'll find most such studies are foreign (non-Western) and, as in the

case of The Australian Study, non-existent in American circles.

Telethons? A great money maker but little of it goes where it should.

Joe C.

Today:

" I'm not crazy about the telethon format either, BUT, a cure for cancer can only

come through basic science and clinical research, which needs a lot of money.

One of the things that SU2C does is fund innovative cancer research grants. "

[Guest guest]

I'm not fond of telethons, either. Often they seem to consist of a lot of

self-promotion for celebrities. And we've had plenty of that with celebrity

reality shows. But they do raise awareness.

 

The cures for cancer will come from clinical research. But who knows--there may

be a miraculous drug in the rainforests that will supercharge the immune system

to fight off all cancers. It would have to be a drug like this as cancer

consists of 200 different diseases; different cells requiring different

treatments.

From: raquel_sitcheran <raquel_sitcheran@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: " The 10 deadliest cancers and why there's no cure "

Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 9:56 AM

 

I'm not crazy about the telethon format either, BUT, a cure for cancer can only

come through basic science and clinical research, which needs a lot of money.

One of the things that SU2C does is fund innovative cancer research grants.

[Guest guest]

> " The concerted War On Cancer is now almost 40 years old. During those 40

years, BILLIONS of dollars have been collected and a goodly portion of that

spent........ "

Don't know if this has been addressed. A book, " Dr. 's Monkey, " is

available on Amazon... describes the development of the Salk polio vaccine

during the 50/60's... and how the polio vaccine was made from monkey kidneys and

carried the cancer producing " SV-40 " virus which remains dormant today inside

baby boomers who received the polio vaccine. When the immune system is weakened,

the SV-40 Virus can transform into one of the major cancers: lung, breast, soft

tissue, bone cancer, etc. In the early 50's, 22,000 new cases of polio was

called an epidemic, and author Ed Haslam asked how come around a million new

cases of cancer each year is NOT being called a cancer epidemic?

Main stream media had a chance to share this with us in 2000 when 60 Minutes

spent more time and money on this story than any other segment of the TV

Magazine's history according to their producer, but the networks would not

permit the program to air. Do you want to know why? Read DR MARY's Monkey.

This is very alarming. It is essentially telling us that those of us, almost

EVERY BABY BOOMER, who took the Salk vaccine in the 60's.. has circulating

inside our bodies remnants of the cancer producing monkey virus that was in the

infected kidneys used to cultivate the Salk vaccine. Almost everybody in the

country is susceptible to contracting cancer from this! The only help is to

STRENGTHEN THE IMMUNE SYSTEM! Read " Dr. 's Monkey. " She was the chemist

who performed the chemistry that produced the vaccine... she wanted to tell...

she was murdered.

Marji

[Guest guest]

Since I go 'way back' to when I was 10 and at that time introduced to the whacky

world of 'Natural Healing' back in the 40s, being aware of Salk and the " Monkey

Pus " it was called by we kooks, (affectionately said) I am shocked I have never

heard this connection before. Then again, how can any of us know it all?

By the same token it seems we need to do more research and discover exactly

what this Dr. is all about because one obscure book does not make a fact.

Facts make facts but it apparently tries to make a case. How do we verify what

60 Minutes was or wasn't going to show without solid evidence? Other than

more ammunition, for our purposes, what will it do to help us overcome our

cancers and prevent others except that information supports our contention

'They' are killing us and have been for decade after decade for almost the 70+

years I exist. thank you Marjij for giving me something to snoop about.

Joe C.

From: Marjij

Don't know if this has been addressed. A book, " Dr. 's Monkey, " is available

on Amazon... describes the development of the Salk polio vaccine during the

50/60's... and how the polio vaccine was made from monkey kidneys and carried

the cancer producing " SV-40 " virus which remains dormant today inside baby

boomers who received the polio vaccine. When the immune system is weakened, the

SV-40 Virus can transform into one of the major cancers: lung, breast, soft

tissue, bone cancer, etc. In the early 50's, 22,000 new cases of polio was

called an epidemic, and author Ed Haslam asked how come around a million new

cases of cancer each year is NOT being called a cancer epidemic?

[Guest guest]

The simian virus 40 (SV 40) is linked to lymphomas...

karla

Millions of people worldwide were inadvertently exposed to live simian virus 40

(SV40) between 1955 and 1963 through immunization with SV40-contaminated polio

vaccines. Although the prevalence of SV40 infections in humans is not known,

numerous studies suggest that SV40 is a pathogen resident in the human

population today. SV40 is a potent DNA tumor virus that is known to induce

primary brain cancers, bone cancers, mesotheliomas, and lymphomas in laboratory

animals. SV40 oncogenesis is mediated by the viral large tumor antigen (T-ag),

which inactivates the tumor suppressor proteins p53 and pRb. During the last

decade, independent studies using different molecular biology techniques have

shown the presence of SV40 DNA, T-ag, or other viral markers in primary human

brain and bone cancers and malignant mesotheliomas. Evidence suggests that there

may be geographic differences in the frequency of these virus-positive tumors.

Recent large independent controlled studies have shown that SV40 T-ag DNA is

significantly associated with human non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL). In our study,

we analyzed systemic NHL from 76 HIV-1-positive and 78 HIV-1-negative patients,

and nonmalignant lymphoid samples from 79 HIV-1-positive and 107 HIV-1-negative

patients without tumors; 54 colon and breast carcinoma samples served as cancer

controls. We used polymerase chain reaction (PCR) followed by Southern blot

hybridization and DNA sequence analysis to detect DNAs of polyomaviruses and

herpesviruses. SV40-specific DNA sequences were detected in 64 (42%) of 154 NHL,

none of 186 nonmalignant lymphoid samples, and none of 54 control cancers. For

NHL from HIV-1-positive patients, 33% contained SV40 DNA and 39% Epstein Barr

virus (EBV) DNA, whereas NHLs from HIV-1-negative patients were 50% positive for

SV40 and 15% positive for EBV. Few tumors were positive for both SV40 and EBV.

Human herpesvirus type 8 was not detected. SV40 sequences were found most

frequently in diffuse large B cell and follicular-type lymphomas. We conclude

that SV40 is significantly associated with some types of NHL and that lymphomas

should be added to the types of human cancers associated with SV40.

PMID: 15202523 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE