Re: Alright guys - IMMUNOCAL - Is it really the only one?

[Guest guest]

Glutathione alone would not cure cancer, I would imagine. The theory

is (and this is just my theory, along with a few other people) is

that if mitochondria in cancer cells can be restored to healthy

functioning, they will, sooner or later, cause aptosis to occur in

those cancer cells.

So a theoretical approach is to restore mitochondrial health. This

involves increasing glutathione levels via various mechanisms,

including whey powder, selenium, alpha lipoic acid, coffee enemas,

and other supplements.

It might also involve using the drug DCA, although this drug has

shown mixed results.

I also think it involves getting cells to resperate normally again,

which means using the FO/CC mix, and avoiding bad oils like the

plague.

I would also take other approaches along with the mitochondrial

approach, including

directly killing cells via artemisinin, oleander, bloodroot,

increasing oxygenation, which includes exercise, alkalizing the

system, coenzyme Q10, and possibly other approaches,

Increasing the immune system via mushrooms, beta glucan, etc.

Increasing endorphin levels, via LDN, exercise, meditation, and

laughter.

>

> You know, I firmly believe that a healthy lifestyle and a

breakthrough

> in any type of healing is a multi-facet approach.

>

> I never believed that one product will cute you of anything. The

shot-

> gun approach may work for some but it did not for me. It took a

total

> transformation over a period of many years to get somewhere.

>

> So, I want to get to the bottom of this glutathione thing. I know

that

> it is an awesome nutrient. The Immunocal people swear that is all

you

> need to heal of anything and their product is the only one that

works.

>

> I am NOT wanting to believe it.

>

> Can someone help me understand?

>

> Is there any other glutathione product that would be good or is

> everyone's life in danger without IMMUNOCAL?

>

> Thank you,

> Johanne

>

[Guest guest]

Jim,

 

What is FO/CC?

 

[Guest guest]

,

FO/CC is the abreviation of the Budwig mixture - Flaxseed Oil and

Cottage Cheese.

ar

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:29:38 -0800 (PST), " Dorr "

<dorrnancy@...> said:

> Jim,

>  

> What is FO/CC?

>  

>

>

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

[Guest guest]

When I was a teen-ager in high school, I became anoxeric and would only eat

cottage cheese per Dr. Atkins.

 

I have never been able to eat cottage cheese since.

 

nancy

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I absolutely hate cottage cheese!

But, I have to say, I loved the Budwig mixture. When you mix it with

the flaxseed oil and honey and cinnamon and fruit, it's yummy!!! And if

you don't like cottage cheese, you can use drained yogurt. I switched

to yogurt because I was having trouble with all the dairy.

Unfortunately, the yogurt didn't help and I had to give up the mixture.

But, trust me, it's yummy.

ar

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:37:39 -0800 (PST), " Dorr "

<dorrnancy@...> said:

> When I was a teen-ager in high school, I became anoxeric and would only

> eat cottage cheese per Dr. Atkins.

>  

> I have never been able to eat cottage cheese since.

>  

> nancy

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

NO, I am not going to go off my 100% raw foods anymore then I have to. I am

bending the rules ONLY because I want to target the anti-estrogenic herb thing

and because the only safe way to get the Omega 6's in me is fish oil. Both flax

and chia seeds I understand are estrogen-promoters per my oncologist's advice

and my own research.

 

But I do support your taking it. Dairy products are addictive for me. The creamy

taste is delicious. This is why I need to avoid it. I have been known to go

through a 5# block of cheese in a week.

 

From: Arlyn Grant <arlynsg@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Alright guys - IMMUNOCAL - Is it really the only

one?

Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 10:48 AM

Hi ,

I absolutely hate cottage cheese!

But, I have to say, I loved the Budwig mixture. When you mix it with

the flaxseed oil and honey and cinnamon and fruit, it's yummy!!! And if

you don't like cottage cheese, you can use drained yogurt. I switched

to yogurt because I was having trouble with all the dairy.

Unfortunately, the yogurt didn't help and I had to give up the mixture.

But, trust me, it's yummy.

ar

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jim, you explained it well.

Bless you,

Johanne

From: jrrjim

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:21 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Alright guys - IMMUNOCAL - Is it really the only one?

Glutathione alone would not cure cancer, I would imagine. The theory

is (and this is just my theory, along with a few other people) is

that if mitochondria in cancer cells can be restored to healthy

functioning, they will, sooner or later, cause aptosis to occur in

those cancer cells.

So a theoretical approach is to restore mitochondrial health. This

involves increasing glutathione levels via various mechanisms,

including whey powder, selenium, alpha lipoic acid, coffee enemas,

and other supplements.

It might also involve using the drug DCA, although this drug has

shown mixed results.

I also think it involves getting cells to resperate normally again,

which means using the FO/CC mix, and avoiding bad oils like the

plague.

I would also take other approaches along with the mitochondrial

approach, including

directly killing cells via artemisinin, oleander, bloodroot,

increasing oxygenation, which includes exercise, alkalizing the

system, coenzyme Q10, and possibly other approaches,

Increasing the immune system via mushrooms, beta glucan, etc.

Increasing endorphin levels, via LDN, exercise, meditation, and

laughter.

>

> You know, I firmly believe that a healthy lifestyle and a

breakthrough

> in any type of healing is a multi-facet approach.

>

> I never believed that one product will cute you of anything. The

shot-

> gun approach may work for some but it did not for me. It took a

total

> transformation over a period of many years to get somewhere.

>

> So, I want to get to the bottom of this glutathione thing. I know

that

> it is an awesome nutrient. The Immunocal people swear that is all

you

> need to heal of anything and their product is the only one that

works.

>

> I am NOT wanting to believe it.

>

> Can someone help me understand?

>

> Is there any other glutathione product that would be good or is

> everyone's life in danger without IMMUNOCAL?

>

> Thank you,

> Johanne

>

[Guest guest]

Tsk tsk tsk... haven't been doing your homework.

Flaxseed oil / cottage cheese -- mixed together per the Budwig

recommendation, with 2 parts cc to 1 part FO, mixed with a stick

blender or other similar device until the FO and CC is bonded together.

>

> Jim,

>  

> What is FO/CC?

>  

>

>

[Guest guest]

The Budwig FO/CC mix doesn't taste like cottage cheese. If you add

garlic, it tastes like garlic dip (to me). If you add sweet stuff,

e.g., cocoa and stevia, it tastes a bit like pudding! You can make it

taste okay.

>

> When I was a teen-ager in high school, I became anoxeric and would

only eat cottage cheese per Dr. Atkins.

>  

> I have never been able to eat cottage cheese since.

>  

> nancy

>

[Guest guest]

What is the texture like? I am an aspie and have problems with eating

weird textures. Can't eat jello with fruit in it. Has to be plain etc.

And I do mean can't. Certain textures make the gag reflex rear it's

ugly head in a most unpleasant way.

Cheri

> >

> > When I was a teen-ager in high school, I became anoxeric and would

> only eat cottage cheese per Dr. Atkins.

> >  

> > I have never been able to eat cottage cheese since.

> >  

> > nancy

> >

>