Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 , I take 4 fat grabbers with water before meal, then during the meal, I take Puritan Prides Digestabs which contains Dicalcium Phosphate, Ox Bile, and the other digestive enzymes, Amylase, Pepsin, Papain, Betaine Hydrochloride and what I believe is a raw glandular, Duadenal Substance. , I'm still a GB person so far, and I take something with every meal, Beta-TCP. Breaking it down on the bottle how it's listed: Vit. C = 60 mg. Taurine = 100 mg. Pancrelipase = 50 mg. Beet concentrate (arial part, roots and tubers) = 100 mg. Superoxide Dismutase (from vegetable culture+) = 20 mcg. Catalase (from vegetable culture) = 20 mcg Of course, it lists a few other things like magnesium stearate, etc. So far this stuff has helped me so much. I can digest a meal without extreme pain. I also take magnesium citrate capsules 3 X a day. Sometimes I may add one more at a certain meal. But most of the time I take it 3 X a day. Now, I think that people who've had their GBs removed, and that is, if they're having problems, (because I'm not talking about people who haven't had problems yet), but they, too, should take something with their meals. This is from my PERSONAL experience in evaluating GB surgeries, and again, I'm not talking about people, or a person in general, who hasn't had problems. But the people that I spoke to who had GB surgery, they needed something for sure. They were suffering. They were having problems digesting their food. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Hi claudia,I have been taking lecithin but didnt know much about the other things you mentioned.I will look into them,thanks.Jim --- In gallstones@y..., " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@c...> wrote: > >I > > had a mild attack last nite that I stopped from going real bad with > > coptis & curcuma.I didnt think I ate real bad but mayme I am > > mistaken.I have been eating whole grain bread usually as dry toast > > will whole grain cereal for breakfast. > > Do any of you folks take food enzymes with your meals? If I > know I am going to be eating something that has > fat, like cheese, a fattier meat, etc., I take 4 fat grabbers with > water before meal, then during the meal, I take Puritan Prides > Digestabs which contains Dicalcium Phosphate, Ox Bile, and > the other digestive enzymes, Amylase, Pepsin, Papain, Betaine > Hydrochloride and what I believe is a raw glandular, > Duadenal Substance. Then at the end of the meal, I take > a big Lecithin Softgel. I always have these things with me, > and it seems to work pretty well! I haven't had any big > attacks in quite some time, mild reminders that I still have > things to deal with in the GB area, but nothing major (yet). > > L. Meydrech, CN > http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes > http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 At or about 07:31, 08/08/02 (my clock), Tishri7@... made the following statement: =========Start of Material Being Replied to======== >But the people that I spoke to who had GB surgery, they needed >something for sure. They were suffering. They were having problems >digesting their food. >>>>>>>>>>>==End of Quoted Material==<<<<<<<<<<< Well, Barry, who has disappeared from this list, reported no problems whatsoever with his digestion after his gall bladder was removed. So that comment may not be quite so all encompassing. --------------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON --------------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 But the people that I spoke to who had GB surgery, they needed >something for sure. They were suffering. They were having problems >digesting their food. ____________________ Ira, Go back and read my post again. I'm referring to the people that I personally know. It's my personal survey that I did when I first found out that I had gallstones. One was a lady that I worked with for many years, one was her daughter, one was a health food store lady where I shop, etc., etc. None of these people have anything to do with the gallstone group. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 My Mother, Husband and Sister in Law have all had their gallbladders removed and they have no problems whatsoever digesting food, indigestion or rarely heartburn. My Husband had his done 20 yrs ago and compared to the way it was before removal is like the difference between apples and red meat LOL Becky At 09:39 AM 08/08/2002 +0300, you wrote: >At or about 07:31, 08/08/02 (my clock), Tishri7@... made the >following statement: > >=========Start of Material Being Replied to======== > >But the people that I spoke to who had GB surgery, they needed > >something for sure. They were suffering. They were having problems > >digesting their food. > >>>>>>>>>>>==End of Quoted Material==<<<<<<<<<<< > >Well, Barry, who has disappeared from this list, reported no problems >whatsoever with his digestion after his gall bladder was removed. So >that comment may not be quite so all encompassing. > >--------------------------- >IRA L. JACOBSON >--------------------------- >mailto:laser@... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Yes, I have been reading the posts you folks have given re this, and it sounds like something I could use. It is a Standard Process product, isn't it? , I'm sorry, but I don't understand what standard process product is. I order my Beta-TCP from Dr. Springer's website. He's a chiropractor in Ca. I have his website. But it's my understanding that someone who's had their GB removed, needs Beta Plus instead. I searched like crazy to find someone who I could get this through. It's not prescription, but you have to get it through some kind of healthcare professional. Susie http://www.myvits.com/ At the top of the page is a place called Biotics Research. Choose that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Once you are rid of the gall bladder, think of all the junk you are avoiding now that you will freely eat. A friend of mine just had his removed, and said it was because " I just can't give up my hot dogs " . , you're right. If I had to have my GB removed, which I might someday, I would want to keep in mind that it's possible at some point I might need some kind of stuff like Beta Plus or whatever. The reason being is that because there was a lady on her once, I think she was from England and think her name was Jane. She started having problems 12 years after her GB was removed, having severe attacks. I haven't seen her on here in some time. But she was plenty okay for a while and free from pain, then these no-GB attacks started up. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 > , > I'm still a GB person so far, and I take something with every meal, Beta-TCP. Yes, I have been reading the posts you folks have given re this, and it sounds like something I could use. It is a Standard Process product, isn't it? Chiropractor I used to go to suggested something called Beta Food by them that I took in large quantities during the week before my flush in leiu of apple juice. Are you able to get it without being sent for it by a professional (chiropract., etc.)? Otherwise I could use my beet juice powder and add taurine to the mix. I also take some extra magnesium...many are lacking this simple mineral. L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2002 Report Share Posted August 8, 2002 Most people who have their gall bladders removed do just fine, but it's nice to be able to hang onto it if it's possible...and it encourages us to think about what we eat. Once you are rid of the gall bladder, think of all the junk you are avoiding now that you will freely eat. A friend of mine just had his removed, and said it was because " I just can't give up my hot dogs " . L. Meydrech, CN http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a > My Mother, Husband and Sister in Law have all had their gallbladders > removed and they have no problems whatsoever digesting food, indigestion or > rarely heartburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Hi, Just wanted to add my two cents and say that I too have had no digestive problems almost a year after GB surgery. However, I attribute that to having done the liver cleanse numerous times, because just after surgery, and prior to doing the liver cleanse, I did experience some minor digestive complaints. I eat better than prior to GB surgery, but my eating patterns have not altered that much. . I do eat organic foods as much as possible, use my juicer-but not as much as I should, and stay away from processed foods as much as possible. I do not take any vitamins or supplements of any kind. I wish I still had my GB, but as of yet I'm thankful that it doesn't seem like I've suffered any ill effects from its loss....although just because I don't perceive any ill effects, doesn't mean there aren't any. Adrienne " Ira L. son " wrote:At or about 07:31, 08/08/02 (my clock), Tishri7@... made the following statement: =========Start of Material Being Replied to======== >But the people that I spoke to who had GB surgery, they needed >something for sure. They were suffering. They were having problems >digesting their food. >>>>>>>>>>>==End of Quoted Material==<<<<<<<<<<< Well, Barry, who has disappeared from this list, reported no problems whatsoever with his digestion after his gall bladder was removed. So that comment may not be quite so all encompassing. --------------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON --------------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 usie, what do you mean by this? I haven't had nay problems yet, but want to know if there is something I should be watching for. Dawn Dawn, do not worry. Those are people that I personally spoke with that I knew. One was a lady that I worked with for 8 1/2 years. She couldn't eat the stuff that she loved anymore like lettuce in salads and stuff like that because it hurt her. She had diarrhea constantly. I called her when I was considering GB surgery and wanted to find out what others had to say. Wow! I did get an earful from her. She and her daughter had surgery close to the same time. Her daughter almost died but it was because during the surgery, the doc nicked one of her bile ducts. She turned yellow, couldn't eat after the surgery and had to spend one month in ICU in a different hospital, then have repair surgery. But you may not ever have problems at all. But if you start having diarrhea right after you eat, then you should probably start taking something like Beta Plus. It's a fat emulsifier and does what your GB did. The other thing is, Dawn, is to stay with your healthy eating. In Dr. Cabot's book she stresses this to people who've had their GBs removed because it's easier for them to get a fatty liver. If you eat healthy, then it's not a problem. That's in her book entitled " The Healthy Liver & Bowel Book, " on pg. 44. If you're doing fine now, there's no reason to worry at all. Take care, Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Where I live we have a compounding pharmacy and they carry Beta-TCP. It is on the shelf and anyone can buy it. You don't need a prescription. I don't get it by prescription, but I did find it carried by a chiropractor. In the little area where I live, I don't think many of even heard of a compounding pharmacy. I guess in the larger cities they might have it there, though. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Susie, what do you mean by this? I haven't had nay problems yet, but want to know if there is something I should be watching for. Dawn But the people that I spoke to who had GB surgery, they needed > something for sure. They were suffering. They were having problems > digesting their food. > > Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 , GB problems are certainly a motivation for one to eat properly. And I must admit, because I now do not have to worry about pain every minute of my life, I have had some indulgences the last couple of weeks. But, this experience has permanently changed me and I don't think I will ever go back to how I use to eat, which I did not think was that bad. Since I ate a Whopper last night, no mayo, I am having a fruit and veggies day today. That would have never happened in the past. I did not get fries because I now think they are one of the world's worst foods. It is not inevitable that if you get your gb out, that you will resort to a poor diet. AND to some people it is not important. Most people I know who have had theirs out, make that all people I know...at least a dozen personally, found out they had a problem, went and had it removed, and resumed their lives. Having a poor diet is not the worst thing in the world that can happen to a person, although I wish more people were more health conscious for their own benefit. Dawn --- In gallstones@y..., " L. Meydrech " <claudiameydrech@c...> wrote: > Most people who have their gall bladders removed > do just fine, but it's nice to be able to hang onto it > if it's possible...and it encourages us to think about > what we eat. Once you are rid of the gall bladder, > think of all the junk you are avoiding now that you > will freely eat. A friend of mine just had his removed, > and said it was because " I just can't give up my > hot dogs " . > > L. Meydrech, CN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2002 Report Share Posted August 9, 2002 Where I live we have a compounding pharmacy and they carry Beta-TCP. It is on the shelf and anyone can buy it. You don't need a prescription. Lvquilting@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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