See Our Files/Re: SO MANY PROTOCOLS....BUT WHICH WORK?????

[Guest guest]

No, Bill Wolcott's program, similar but more advanced and individualized!

e, if you want to know how I teach others, email me privately. I do not

want to go against this forum's boundaries.

Thank you,

Johanne

From: aertsniddam

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:39 PM

Subject: [ ] See Our Files/Re: SO MANY PROTOCOLS....BUT WHICH

WORK?????

Thank you for your honest reply, Johanne. As a metabollic practioner you follow

Dr. Kelley's protocol , correct?.

I am just trying to get some sense of COHESION in this vast sea of diverse

protocols and recommendations.

Solid info would help. There is so little, except for Budwig and Gerson.

Thank you again,

martine

" Johanne Wayne " <thewfamily@...> wrote:

In a perfect world, there would be one miracle protocol and we would all do it

right? The truth is we all have different underlying issues and our job as

overcomers is to be our own detective and work alone or with the help of others

equipped with the knowledge necessary to uncover these issues and regain our

health. For some, food allergies and parasites are the important issues, for

others, appropriate nutrition and appropriate supplements is what is needed for

others balancing hormones is the most important issue.

I wish it was that easy....I would have had a much easier journey here. I am

sharing this with tears in my eyes....

>

> Blessings,

> Johanne

>

> Johanne Wayne CN

> Clinical Nutritionist

> Functional Diagnostic Nutritionist

> Certified Metabolic Typing Advisor Level 2

> AdvancedNutritionalConcepts@...

[Guest guest]

Johanne and e:

 

Yes, I agree with you. There in no cohesion in cancer treatment. I found this

out 14 years ago when death was staring me in the FACE. One book says cooked

foods or macrobiotic. Another one would say raw foods. One would say tomatoes

were good for you, another would say they are nightshades and stay away from

them. I had to make decisions that I felt were right for me and go inside to

what not only felt right, but made sense from logical reasoning. Also, the

majority ruled in a lot of cases.

 

Currently, I am in a debate between those who think mushrooms are good VS.

Cousens who copied his theories from O. Young, who says stay away

from " cancer-causing " mushrooms. Where Young says to stay away from fermented

foods forever and no chlorella, spirulina or blue-green algae, Cousens seems to

ignore that part of Young's theories and includes algaes from the beginning of

his diet. Where Young says to forever stay away from fermented foods (i.e.

kefir, vinegar, saurekraut, etc.) Cousens starts allowing them in the second

phase of his diet.

 

What is one to believe? What ever one chooses. Research, research, research.

Talk to people like on this website and then make your BEST informed

guess/estimate of what might work.

 

I remember working VERY hard in 1994/1995 and when I would begin one alternative

protocol, I was reading and studying ALL the time to see if I missed something.

I wouldn't call it obsessive because my life was on the line. I would end one

protocol and begin another one or be preparing for it right away.

 

There is no magic bullet on this website, but a concerted effort by very caring

individuals to share a multitude of information and YES you are going to have to

sort through everything yourself. One could go and pay thousands of dollars to

this doctor or this clinic and be in no better position then sifting thru ALL

the information here except that your pocketbook is richer by coming here.

 

Frustrating? Of course, but I would think it would be more frustrating to not

have this resource. I don't remember anything like this in 1994. Did we even

have the internet back in 1994.  Be gratitude for those who spend time helping

others. I see a lot of people reaching out to others. People have been so

wonderful to me on this website.

 

e writes, " So Many protocols? But which work? " If we knew that we wouldn't

be writing to this website all the time to try and figure it out and we would

all be filthy rich. This website is a free service to anyone who needs the help.

We do it gratefully, but with the understanding there is a BIG question mark for

most of us whether any treatment will work specifically for us. Maybe it worked

for Jo? But we aren't Jo and our bodies, our lifestyles, our diets,

our genetic make-up is different.

 

Thank goodness that there is a vast sea of information about curing or healing

cancer. It means many people are trying to come up with an answer. But the ONLY

expert for the cancer patient is herself after she has experimented on herself

with the various treatments, diets, injectables, etc. This is only what it can

be called. There is no ONE way. But a multitude of paths which lead down one

road hopefully to the healing of a damaged body by a dis-ease some call CANCER.

 

I am back from Texas and I about to hit the " cancer " in my body with everything

I've got. I've now only got 38 days to blast it out before my next CT scan. The

results of that CT will determine much of what I and my other doctors decide to

do.

 

I have made the decision to not post anything up here for the next month as my

primary focus is now going to be to blast the biggest tumor measured on Ocober

19th as 3.5 cm x 1.9 cm, which is huge and is very fast growing. I know the

oncologist is just WAITING to put me on some toxic damn s#$% which will be all

down hill from there, I am sure. SO, yes, I am in BATTLE against this damn

little THING which has grown from NOTHING to BIG in less then 9  months. And it

is in my left lung and not that far from a heart valve. I'm not even concerned

about the other little snot tumors of 8mm, 6mm and 5mm. I'll deal with those

later.

 

Do the nurses in the chemo room at the hospital  think I " m off my rocker?

Probably, since I announced last month that I had 90 days to cure myself; and

then suddenly this old counselor of mine comes walking by and wants to know how

I'm " feeling? " So yeah, they don't believe any of this stuff works. I told the

cancer support group a month ago that I didn't feel comfortable in their group;

that I thought they had all been brainwashed by the medical system and that

indeed I had fought and won 14 years ago with terminal cancer. The counselor

just DIED when I said that. Then a lady got really mad at me and said she felt I

was judging the group and that indeed she didn't think ANYTHING could be done to

fight cancer---your path is determined by the course of the disease. I went back

ONE more time to this group and then decided that if I stayed in that group I

could very well die as no one (except a few patients who privately told me of

some alternative things

they were doing) seemed to be doing anything to fight the cancer. Previously,

another woman who had belittled my attempts at alternative treatments is now

listed as terminal.

 

So, I am doing something constructive during the 1 1/2 hours I would have been

attending the support group. I am doing yoga.

 

I am in for a fight for my life and I am going to hit this damn thing with every

toxic herbal remedy in my arsenal----my " chemotherapy. " No light-weight fluffy

stuff here, folks. We're talking GORILLA WARFARE. Blood root (i.e. Compound X),

Ozone, colonics, fasting, etc.

If no one has ever read Dr. Schulze's book There Are No Incurable Diseases

( Schulze got his ideas from the fanous herbalist Dr. , who

actually said, " There Are No Incurable Diseases! " ) then I suggest you buythe

book from www.herbdoc.com. Schulze has a fire under his belly and gives great

hope to others who medical science has given up on. His treatments are cheap,

but you can substitute some of the formulas with Dr. 's original

formulas on www.iherb.com for even less or if you are sensitive to alcohol. Look

for " 's Formulas. "  Schulze is not afraid to tell patients that

" Sympathy is listed in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. I absolutely

adore him, even though my daughter says he stole all his ideas from .

Who cares? He has helped inspire so many people.  

 

Sincerely,

 

Dorr

 

 

 

In a perfect world, there would be one miracle protocol and we would all do it

right? The truth is we all have different underlying issues and our job as

overcomers is to be our own detective and work alone or with the help of others

equipped with the knowledge necessary to uncover these issues and regain our

health. For some, food allergies and parasites are the important issues, for

others, appropriate nutrition and appropriate supplements is what is needed for

others balancing hormones is the most important issue.

I wish it was that easy....I would have had a much easier journey here. I am

sharing this with tears in my eyes....

>

> Blessings,

> Johanne

>

> Johanne Wayne CN

> Clinical Nutritionist

> Functional Diagnostic Nutritionist

> Certified Metabolic Typing Advisor Level 2

> AdvancedNutritional Concepts@ ...

[Guest guest]

,

You are amazing. I will miss your posts but will send positive energy

to your battle! Go kick cancer's A$$ again.

ar

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for sharing your heart!

I feel for you and from my heart to yours, fight hard. You can do it!

Hugs,

Johanne

From: Dorr

Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:22 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] See Our Files/Re: SO MANY PROTOCOLS....BUT WHICH

WORK?????

Johanne and e:

Yes, I agree with you. There in no cohesion in cancer treatment. I found this

out 14 years ago when death was staring me in the FACE. One book says cooked

foods or macrobiotic. Another one would say raw foods. One would say tomatoes

were good for you, another would say they are nightshades and stay away from

them. I had to make decisions that I felt were right for me and go inside to

what not only felt right, but made sense from logical reasoning. Also, the

majority ruled in a lot of cases.

Currently, I am in a debate between those who think mushrooms are good VS.

Cousens who copied his theories from O. Young, who says stay away

from " cancer-causing " mushrooms. Where Young says to stay away from fermented

foods forever and no chlorella, spirulina or blue-green algae, Cousens seems to

ignore that part of Young's theories and includes algaes from the beginning of

his diet. Where Young says to forever stay away from fermented foods (i.e.

kefir, vinegar, saurekraut, etc.) Cousens starts allowing them in the second

phase of his diet.

What is one to believe? What ever one chooses. Research, research, research.

Talk to people like on this website and then make your BEST informed

guess/estimate of what might work.

I remember working VERY hard in 1994/1995 and when I would begin one alternative

protocol, I was reading and studying ALL the time to see if I missed something.

I wouldn't call it obsessive because my life was on the line. I would end one

protocol and begin another one or be preparing for it right away.

There is no magic bullet on this website, but a concerted effort by very caring

individuals to share a multitude of information and YES you are going to have to

sort through everything yourself. One could go and pay thousands of dollars to

this doctor or this clinic and be in no better position then sifting thru ALL

the information here except that your pocketbook is richer by coming here.

Frustrating? Of course, but I would think it would be more frustrating to not

have this resource. I don't remember anything like this in 1994. Did we even

have the internet back in 1994. Be gratitude for those who spend time helping

others. I see a lot of people reaching out to others. People have been so

wonderful to me on this website.

e writes, " So Many protocols? But which work? " If we knew that we wouldn't

be writing to this website all the time to try and figure it out and we would

all be filthy rich. This website is a free service to anyone who needs the help.

We do it gratefully, but with the understanding there is a BIG question mark for

most of us whether any treatment will work specifically for us. Maybe it worked

for Jo? But we aren't Jo and our bodies, our lifestyles, our diets,

our genetic make-up is different.

Thank goodness that there is a vast sea of information about curing or healing

cancer. It means many people are trying to come up with an answer. But the ONLY

expert for the cancer patient is herself after she has experimented on herself

with the various treatments, diets, injectables, etc. This is only what it can

be called. There is no ONE way. But a multitude of paths which lead down one

road hopefully to the healing of a damaged body by a dis-ease some call CANCER.

I am back from Texas and I about to hit the " cancer " in my body with everything

I've got. I've now only got 38 days to blast it out before my next CT scan. The

results of that CT will determine much of what I and my other doctors decide to

do.

I have made the decision to not post anything up here for the next month as my

primary focus is now going to be to blast the biggest tumor measured on Ocober

19th as 3.5 cm x 1.9 cm, which is huge and is very fast growing. I know the

oncologist is just WAITING to put me on some toxic damn s#$% which will be all

down hill from there, I am sure. SO, yes, I am in BATTLE against this damn

little THING which has grown from NOTHING to BIG in less then 9 months. And it

is in my left lung and not that far from a heart valve. I'm not even concerned

about the other little snot tumors of 8mm, 6mm and 5mm. I'll deal with those

later.

Do the nurses in the chemo room at the hospital think I " m off my rocker?

Probably, since I announced last month that I had 90 days to cure myself; and

then suddenly this old counselor of mine comes walking by and wants to know how

I'm " feeling? " So yeah, they don't believe any of this stuff works. I told the

cancer support group a month ago that I didn't feel comfortable in their group;

that I thought they had all been brainwashed by the medical system and that

indeed I had fought and won 14 years ago with terminal cancer. The counselor

just DIED when I said that. Then a lady got really mad at me and said she felt I

was judging the group and that indeed she didn't think ANYTHING could be done to

fight cancer---your path is determined by the course of the disease. I went back

ONE more time to this group and then decided that if I stayed in that group I

could very well die as no one (except a few patients who privately told me of

some alternative things

they were doing) seemed to be doing anything to fight the cancer. Previously,

another woman who had belittled my attempts at alternative treatments is now

listed as terminal.

So, I am doing something constructive during the 1 1/2 hours I would have been

attending the support group. I am doing yoga.

I am in for a fight for my life and I am going to hit this damn thing with every

toxic herbal remedy in my arsenal----my " chemotherapy. " No light-weight fluffy

stuff here, folks. We're talking GORILLA WARFARE. Blood root (i.e. Compound X),

Ozone, colonics, fasting, etc.

If no one has ever read Dr. Schulze's book There Are No Incurable Diseases (

Schulze got his ideas from the fanous herbalist Dr. , who

actually said, " There Are No Incurable Diseases! " ) then I suggest you buythe

book from www.herbdoc.com. Schulze has a fire under his belly and gives great

hope to others who medical science has given up on. His treatments are cheap,

but you can substitute some of the formulas with Dr. 's original

formulas on www.iherb.com for even less or if you are sensitive to alcohol. Look

for " 's Formulas. " Schulze is not afraid to tell patients that

" Sympathy is listed in the dictionary between shit and syphilis. I absolutely

adore him, even though my daughter says he stole all his ideas from .

Who cares? He has helped inspire so many people.

Sincerely,

Dorr

In a perfect world, there would be one miracle protocol and we would all do it

right? The truth is we all have different underlying issues and our job as

overcomers is to be our own detective and work alone or with the help of others

equipped with the knowledge necessary to uncover these issues and regain our

health. For some, food allergies and parasites are the important issues, for

others, appropriate nutrition and appropriate supplements is what is needed for

others balancing hormones is the most important issue.

I wish it was that easy....I would have had a much easier journey here. I am

sharing this with tears in my eyes....

>

> Blessings,

> Johanne

>

> Johanne Wayne CN

> Clinical Nutritionist

> Functional Diagnostic Nutritionist

> Certified Metabolic Typing Advisor Level 2

> AdvancedNutritional Concepts@ ...

[Guest guest]

Sirisha

could you pl specify what kind of Hydrogen Peroxide therapy you

applied?

thanks

" sfbayhomes " wrote:

What supplements are you on? My mom has Non Small Cell Lung Cancer

3b, and is on Poly MVA, Hydrogen Peroxide therapy, Beta Glucans, Barley

> Greens, Vitamins, etc and is doing pretty well.....no chemo, no side

> effects and cancer markers are coming down gradually.......

> Good luck!

> Sirisha