Re: Blood Thinners

[Guest guest]

Yes it does help with penetration. I'm getting three months of it in

my IVs. One can learn to give themselves shots or take lozenges

between the gum and cheek.

At 06:17 PM 12/26/2006, you wrote:

>Hi

>

>Does anyone have any experience of taking blood thinners along with

>antibiotics? For instance heparin with IV rocephin. I have heard that

>the heparin can make the lyme spirochaetes easier to access for the

>rocephin, and that this combination can be a very effective therapy.

>

>Would be interested in your views on this one.

>

>Many thanks

>Lara

>

>

[Guest guest]

My understanding is that heparin is used mainly to keep the catheter

from clogging up during the IV procedure. I think it is pretty well

standard procedure.

W

lara33_uk1 wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> Does anyone have any experience of taking blood thinners along with

> antibiotics? For instance heparin with IV rocephin. I have heard that

> the heparin can make the lyme spirochaetes easier to access for the

> rocephin, and that this combination can be a very effective therapy.

>

> Would be interested in your views on this one.

>

> Many thanks

> Lara

>

>

[Guest guest]

If a catheter becomes clogged it can be flushed with heparin rather

than the normal saline solution. Google HEMEX labs to learn about

hypercoagulation with infections.

http://www.hemex.com/publications/index.php

At 09:51 AM 12/27/2006, you wrote:

>My understanding is that heparin is used mainly to keep the catheter

>from clogging up during the IV procedure. I think it is pretty well

>standard procedure.

>

> W

>

>lara33_uk1 wrote:

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Does anyone have any experience of taking blood thinners along with

> > antibiotics? For instance heparin with IV rocephin. I have heard that

> > the heparin can make the lyme spirochaetes easier to access for the

> > rocephin, and that this combination can be a very effective therapy.

> >

> > Would be interested in your views on this one.

> >

> > Many thanks

> > Lara

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Other things that can thin blood are aspirin, fish oil (but make sure

you get a good brand), vit. E.

I was taking 81 mg of aspirin for Factor V Leiden, a genetic blood

clotting disorder and boy, does it make it thin. I am being treated

with Cat's Claw for the Lyme and with fish oil, both are blood

thinners. Knowing that I discontinued the aspirin. Another reason I

discontinued the aspirin was I read it can interfere with the Cat's

Claw.

jan

[Guest guest]

Lara,

When I was on IV Rocephin, I was supposed to clear the line

with heparin before and after infusion. I always thought this

was to prevent blood clots. (I got one anyway.)

Cheryll

[Guest guest]

I don't know about your clinic but we use saline and only heparin to

clear the lines if they are blocked and in the IV bag with the abx to

treat the hypocoagulation that comes with Lyme. Many Lyme doctors

over look this very important fact and why maybe some patients do not

heal from Lyme. The abx cannot penetrate the cells because the

bacteria lays down fibrin in the veins to protect itself. I posted

earlier looking at the Hemex Lab site and you can call them to

discuss this issue regarding Lyme. They are very knowledgeable and

helpful.

At 05:46 PM 12/27/2006, you wrote:

>Lara,

>When I was on IV Rocephin, I was supposed to clear the line

>with heparin before and after infusion. I always thought this

>was to prevent blood clots. (I got one anyway.)

>Cheryll

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I don't know about your clinic but we use saline and only heparin to

> clear the lines if they are blocked and in the IV bag with the abx to

> treat the hypocoagulation that comes with Lyme. Many Lyme doctors

> over look this very important fact and why maybe some patients do not

> heal from Lyme. The abx cannot penetrate the cells because the

> bacteria lays down fibrin in the veins to protect itself. I posted

> earlier looking at the Hemex Lab site and you can call them to

> discuss this issue regarding Lyme. They are very knowledgeable and

> helpful.

>

Many thanks . We only have a few (less than 5) LLMD's in the UK,

and it seems there are lots of lessons that could be learned from the

US methods of treating Lyme disease. We just have a new doctor

practicising in London who was trained in NY, who favours in some cases

the use of heparin with other anti-biotics. She is supposed to have

healed some very difficult cases so far, even though she has only been

practising here for a few months. I am thinking of taking my partner to

see her in the New Year.

The other method I am aware of is using Zithromax and Metronidazole

along with Rocephin to get at intracellular/cyst/CNS forms of Lyme, but

as my partner has such bad GI symptoms we weren't sure if he could cope

with this protocol.

In any case thanks for the info.

Regards

Lara

[Guest guest]

Using the Zitho and Tindamax is a very good combo to get at the Lyme

cysts, but can be hard on some Lyme patients, painful,

herxing. I''ve personally experienced it! You are on the right track

though. The GI can be an issue with any orals so if your partner can

do some IVs for a few months and give the GI track a rest that may

help. Glad to have given you some ideas.

At 07:14 PM 12/28/2006, you wrote:

>

> >

> > I don't know about your clinic but we use saline and only heparin to

> > clear the lines if they are blocked and in the IV bag with the abx to

> > treat the hypocoagulation that comes with Lyme. Many Lyme doctors

> > over look this very important fact and why maybe some patients do not

> > heal from Lyme. The abx cannot penetrate the cells because the

> > bacteria lays down fibrin in the veins to protect itself. I posted

> > earlier looking at the Hemex Lab site and you can call them to

> > discuss this issue regarding Lyme. They are very knowledgeable and

> > helpful.

> >

>

>Many thanks . We only have a few (less than 5) LLMD's in the UK,

>and it seems there are lots of lessons that could be learned from the

>US methods of treating Lyme disease. We just have a new doctor

>practicising in London who was trained in NY, who favours in some cases

>the use of heparin with other anti-biotics. She is supposed to have

>healed some very difficult cases so far, even though she has only been

>practising here for a few months. I am thinking of taking my partner to

>see her in the New Year.

>

>The other method I am aware of is using Zithromax and Metronidazole

>along with Rocephin to get at intracellular/cyst/CNS forms of Lyme, but

>as my partner has such bad GI symptoms we weren't sure if he could cope

>with this protocol.

>

>In any case thanks for the info.

>

>Regards

>Lara

>

>

[Guest guest]

i came off of IV rocephin a month ago. i was instructed to flush the line with

saline before my infusion to clear the line. then after my infusion i flushed it

with saline again and then flushed it with heperin to keep the line from

clotting. not stop clotting any where else. just to protect the line. those were

the instructions and the explination.

>

>Lara,

>When I was on IV Rocephin, I was supposed to clear the line

>with heparin before and after infusion. I always thought this

>was to prevent blood clots. (I got one anyway.)

>Cheryll

>

[Guest guest]

**See below

Re: [ ] Blood thinners

i came off of IV rocephin a month ago. i was instructed to flush the line with

saline before my infusion to clear the line. then after my infusion i flushed it

with saline again and then flushed it with heperin to keep the line from

clotting. not stop clotting any where else. just to protect the line. those were

the instructions and the explination.

>

>Lara,

>When I was on IV Rocephin, I was supposed to clear the line

>with heparin before and after infusion. I always thought this

>was to prevent blood clots. (I got one anyway.)

>Cheryll

>

**I was instructed to do exactly what Deb did for the time I have been on IV

Rocephin. And, for the same reason. When I had my hip replacement, Oct. of

2005, I came home from the hospital with oral heparin. I had Coumadin while

still in the hospital. In that instance the blood thinner was to stop any blood

clots from forming anywhere in my vascular system anywhere in my body.

Good health to all

ann

think@...

w

[Guest guest]

My husband also did the IV treatments. We he flushed with Saline and heprin

before and after the IV. We questioned this as he sometimes cuts himself when

working and we feared that he bleed a lot. The nurse and doctor assured us that

it was not enough heprin to be a great concern, it was just to keep the line

open.

My question is in regard to the Coumadin. My husband had this given to him at

the very begining of his symptoms because they thought he was having a heart

attack. I honestly think that this thinned his blood and helped spread the

lyme by breaking the brain barrier. His symptoms went to ache joints to every

symptom. Did you have this experience with the coumadin?

honey

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

More likely it helped to break the abx to break brain barrier and get

the abx to the lyme already in his brain. This would be helpful, not hurt him.

At 11:14 AM 12/30/2006, you wrote:

>My husband also did the IV treatments. We he flushed with Saline and

>heprin before and after the IV. We questioned this as he sometimes

>cuts himself when working and we feared that he bleed a lot. The

>nurse and doctor assured us that it was not enough heprin to be a

>great concern, it was just to keep the line open.

>

>My question is in regard to the Coumadin. My husband had this given

>to him at the very begining of his symptoms because they thought he

>was having a heart attack. I honestly think that this thinned his

>blood and helped spread the lyme by breaking the brain barrier. His

>symptoms went to ache joints to every symptom. Did you have this

>experience with the coumadin?

>

>honey

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Helen, are you serious? Did they write on you? lol. Terry

Blood Thinners

Lovenox and Fragmen are the newest blood thinners used after joint replacement. I am not sure if they are the same drug as I think I was given both names when I called my insurance to see if it was in the formulary.

The great advantage to these over Coumadin is that no blood tests are required -- It's not that blood tests are a hassle but the underlying medical reason for having blood tests on Coumadin is because of the extreme danger of dangerous blood bleeds. This danger is not present with the newer blood thinners -- Fragmen/Lovenox.

ly after reading about blood thinners, I am at a loss to understand why any OS wouldn't prescribe Fragmen/Lovenox unless the patient was incapable of administering to him/herself -- and in that case I would assume there would be a care giver anyway.

I thought I wouldn't be able to inject myself but it turned out to be remarkably easy -- There is some bruising but frankly I have been avoiding mirrors in terms of inspecting that whole part of my body -- Time enough after the Steri-Strips disappear -- I still have faint outline of where the hip was marked with a giant YES LOL.

Helen

On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:16 AM, DeRouen wrote:

It's funny, I've been trying to think of the name of the blood thinner shots I had and finally sparked my memory - I had Lovenox, too. I took a total of 14 shots which I gave to myself (even in the hospital I did, I'm a diabetic and used to giving myself shots). I had no problems except the extreme bruising around my stomach from all the shots while on blood thinners. But with that shot series I wasn't required to have blood tests. I was glad for the last shot though as I was tired of not fully healing.

I had the morphine button and it didn't make me feel bad.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf OfAARON JONESSent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:26 AMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: TED's-Donna

What I was given in the hospital was Lovenox ( I hope the spelling is correct). It was a shot that was given to me in the hospital to keep me from getting blood clots which I guess was a blood thinner. I was given it to take home and take the shots at home in my stomach. I could have taken aspirin instead of the shot but aspirin bothers my stomach. I never had any problem with the shots. I had problems with the morphine drip and whatever they gave me the second time I had the other knee operated on. I told them not to give me morphrine drip the second time as I couldn't keep anything on my stomach; but I'm not sure what it was the second time; it wasn't morphine drip; but I had the same reaction. Re: Re: TED's-DonnaIsn't there a new blood thinner drug that is out now, and supposed to be safer than Coumadin? I thought I remember reading somewhere, don't know if it was here or another hip group I am on, that there were some potential bad side affects of the Coumadin thus the need for a newer one out now. How many of you have heard of this, and how many have actually experienced any of these bad side affects?Dale

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Absolutely serious and as I understand it, this is standard operating (deliberate pun) procedure in many hospitals.There have actually been cases of people having the wrong limbs amputated etc.Some hospitals do the reverse and write NO on the non-surgical leg/knee. This is all done before the administration of any kind of drugs that would make one less than lucid.From a systems point of view, it's actually one of the small cheap procedures that completely eliminate any kind of snafu -- same as counting sponges for example.Completely off topic, but there was an interesting article in the NY Times several weeks ago on the rate of response when a patient is brought into an ER with a heart attack -- two hours is considered the magic number in terms of the time frame in which medical intervention is most effective in saving lives. Hospitals were judged on the number of patients treated within this time frame. One hospital sought to up its percentage and instituted procedures -- some of which were of the same kind of simple to implement/not costly yet effective such as having all heart X-rays placed in a red file holder so that doctors would automatically pick up and review any x-rays in that holding bin -- just one example.HelenOn Mar 27, 2007, at 3:01 PM, abcdollsco@... wrote:Helen, are you serious? Did they write on you?  lol. Terry   Blood ThinnersLovenox and Fragmen are the newest blood thinners used after joint replacement. I am not sure if they are the same drug as I think I was given both names when I called my insurance to see if it was in the formulary.The great advantage to these over Coumadin is that no blood tests are required -- It's not that blood tests are a hassle but the underlying medical reason for having blood tests on Coumadin is because of the extreme danger of dangerous blood bleeds. This danger is not present with the newer blood thinners -- Fragmen/Lovenox.ly after reading about blood thinners, I am at a loss to understand why any OS wouldn't prescribe Fragmen/Lovenox unless the patient was incapable of administering to him/herself -- and in that case I would assume there would be a care giver anyway.I thought I wouldn't be able to inject myself but it turned out to be remarkably easy -- There is some bruising but frankly I have been avoiding mirrors in terms of inspecting that whole part of my body -- Time enough after the Steri-Strips disappear -- I still have faint outline of where the hip was marked with a giant YES LOL.HelenOn Mar 27, 2007, at 7:16 AM, DeRouen wrote:It's funny, I've been trying to think of the name of the blood thinner shots I had and finally sparked my memory - I had Lovenox, too. I took a total of 14 shots which I gave to myself (even in the hospital I did, I'm a diabetic and used to giving myself shots). I had no problems except the extreme bruising around my stomach from all the shots while on blood thinners. But with that shot series I wasn't required to have blood tests. I was glad for the last shot though as I was tired of not fully healing. I had the morphine button and it didn't make me feel bad.  -----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf OfAARON JONESSent: Tuesday, March 27, 20 07 4:26 AMJoint Replacement Subjec! t: Re: Re: TED's-DonnaWhat I was given in the hospital was Lovenox ( I hope the spelling is correct). It was a shot that was given to me in the hospital to keep me from getting blood clots which I guess was a blood thinner. I was given it to take home and take the shots at home in my stomach. I could have taken aspirin instead of the shot but aspirin bothers my stomach. I never had any problem with the shots. I had problems with the morphine drip and whatever they gave me the second time I had the other knee operated on. I told them not to give me morphrine drip the second time as I couldn't keep anything on my stomach; but I'm not sure what it was the second time; it wasn't morphine drip; but I had the same reaction. Re: Re: TED's-DonnaIsn't there a new blood thinner drug that is out now, and supposed to be safer than Coumadin? I thought I remember reading somewhere, don't know if it was here or another hip group I am on, that there we! re some potential bad side affects of the Coumadin thus the need for a newer one out now. How many of you have heard of this, and how many have actually experienced any of these bad side affects?DaleAOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL atAOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for explaining that Helen. They did something to me now that you have triggered my memory.

I dont' think it was there after surgery though.

Terry

Blood Thinners

Lovenox and Fragmen are the newest blood thinners used after joint replacement. I am not sure if they are the same drug as I think I was given both names when I called my insurance to see if it was in the formulary.

The great advantage to these over Coumadin is that no blood tests are required -- It's not that blood tests are a hassle but the underlying medical reason for having blood tests on Coumadin is because of the extreme danger of dangerous blood bleeds. This danger is not present with the newer blood thinners -- Fragmen/Lovenox.

ly after reading about blood thinners, I am at a loss to understand why any OS wouldn't prescribe Fragmen/Lovenox unless the patient was incapable of administering to him/herself -- and in that case I would assume there would be a care giver anyway.

I thought I wouldn't be able to inject myself but it turned out to be remarkably easy -- There is some bruising but frankly I have been avoiding mirrors in terms of inspecting that whole part of my body -- Time enough after the Steri-Strips disappear -- I still have faint outline of where the hip was marked with a giant YES LOL.

Helen

On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:16 AM, DeRouen wrote:

It's funny, I've been trying to think of the name of the blood thinner shots I had and finally sparked my memory - I had Lovenox, too. I took a total of 14 shots which I gave to myself (even in the hospital I did, I'm a diabetic and used to giving myself shots). I had no problems except the extreme bruising around my stomach from all the shots while on blood thinners. But with that shot series I wasn't required to have blood tests. I was glad for the last shot though as I was tired of not fully healing.

I had the morphine button and it didn't make me feel bad.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf OfAARON JONESSent: Tuesday, March 27, 20 07 4:26 AMJoint Replacement Subjec! t: Re: Re: TED's-Donna

What I was given in the hospital was Lovenox ( I hope the spelling is correct). It was a shot that was given to me in the hospital to keep me from getting blood clots which I guess was a blood thinner. I was given it to take home and take the shots at home in my stomach. I could have taken aspirin instead of the shot but aspirin bothers my stomach. I never had any problem with the shots. I had problems with the morphine drip and whatever they gave me the second time I had the other knee operated on. I told them not to give me morphrine drip the second time as I couldn't keep anything on my stomach; but I'm not sure what it was the second time; it wasn't morphine drip; but I had the same reaction. Re: Re: TED's-DonnaIsn't there a new blood thinner drug that is out now, and supposed to be safer than Coumadin? I thought I remember reading somewhere, don't know if it was here or another hip group I am on, that there we! re some potential bad side affects of the Coumadin thus the need for a newer one out now. How many of you have heard of this, and how many have actually experienced any of these bad side affects?Dale

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[Guest guest]

Just before the surgery, my dr. came in to see me and he wrote his signature on the leg to be operated on. I understand a lot of hospitals have that sort of safeguard in place.

[Guest guest]

My surgeon just drew a large black arrow pointing upwards from my shin

to the knee that was to have to the surgery on!!

Marilyn (UK)

>

> Just before the surgery, my dr. came in to see me and he wrote his

signature on the leg to be operated on. I understand a lot of hospitals

have that sort of safeguard in place.

>

[Guest guest]

I had both my knees done at the same time, so there would be no messing up unless they replaced the hips instead. And even then, those have to go eventually. Kidding aside, an anesthesiologist numbed the wrong knee of a friend of mine. The doctor discovered it by touching one knee and the the other and noticed that she reacted with the wrong leg. Scary, huh?Marilyn e <brimari@...> wrote: My surgeon just drew a large black arrow pointing upwards from my shin to the knee

that was to have to the surgery on!!Marilyn (UK)>> Just before the surgery, my dr. came in to see me and he wrote his signature on the leg to be operated on. I understand a lot of hospitals have that sort of safeguard in place.>

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When my last grandchild was born, he had an implanted computer chip that identified who he was and would set off an alarm if he as taken outside a designated area. Blood Thinners Lovenox and Fragmen are the newest blood thinners used after joint replacement. I am not sure if they are the same drug as I think I was given both names when I called my insurance to see if it was in the formulary. The great advantage to these over Coumadin is that no blood tests are required -- It's not that blood tests are a hassle but the underlying medical reason for having blood tests on Coumadin is because of the extreme danger of dangerous blood bleeds. This danger is not present with the newer blood thinners -- Fragmen/Lovenox. ly after reading about blood thinners, I am at a loss to understand why any OS wouldn't prescribe Fragmen/Lovenox unless the patient was incapable of administering to him/herself -- and in that case I would assume there would be a care giver anyway. I thought I wouldn't be able to inject myself but it turned out to be remarkably easy -- There is some bruising but frankly I have been avoiding mirrors in terms of inspecting that whole part of my body -- Time enough after the Steri-Strips disappear -- I still have faint outline of where the hip was marked with a giant YES LOL. Helen On Mar 27, 2007, at 7:16 AM, DeRouen wrote: It's funny, I've been trying to think of the name of the blood thinner shots I had and finally sparked my memory - I had Lovenox, too. I took a total of 14 shots which I gave to myself (even in the hospital I did, I'm a diabetic and used to giving myself shots). I had no problems except the extreme bruising around my stomach from all the shots while on blood thinners. But with that shot series I wasn't required to have blood tests. I was glad for the last shot though as I was tired of not fully healing. I had the morphine button and it didn't make me feel bad. -----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf OfAARON JONESSent: Tuesday, March 27, 20 07 4:26

AMJoint Replacement Subjec! t: Re: Re: TED's-Donna What I was given in the hospital was Lovenox ( I hope the spelling is correct). It was a shot that was given to me in the hospital to keep me from getting blood clots which I guess was a blood thinner. I was given it to take home and take the shots at home in my stomach. I could have taken aspirin instead of the shot but aspirin bothers my stomach. I never had any problem with the shots. I had problems with the morphine drip and whatever they gave me the second time I had the other knee operated on. I told them not to give me morphrine drip the second time as I couldn't keep anything on my stomach; but I'm not sure what it was the second time; it wasn't

morphine drip; but I had the same reaction. Re: Re: TED's-DonnaIsn't there a new blood thinner drug that is out now, and supposed to be safer than Coumadin? I thought I remember reading somewhere, don't know if it was here or another hip group I am on, that there we! re some potential bad side affects of the Coumadin thus the need for a newer one out now. How many of you have heard of this, and how many have actually experienced any of these bad side affects?Dale AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL atAOL.com.

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RFID

technology is a big headline in the tech world right now. Those little tracking

chips are causing some of the biggest arguments I have ever seen.

[Guest guest]

jcastron1 writes:

> and replace it with Fish Oil

Increase the fish oil and add some St. 's Wort.

[Guest guest]

Apologies if someone has already mentioned this, but Nattokinase is an

effective blood-thinner:

Enhancement of the fibrinolytic activity in plasma by oral administration of

nattokinase.

Acta Haematol. 1990;84(3):139-43.

The existence of a potent fibrinolytic enzyme nattokinase in the traditional

fermented food called 'natto', was reported by us previously. It was

confirmed that oral administration of nattokinase (or natto) produced a mild

and frequent enhancement of the fibrinolytic activity in the plasma, as

indicated by the fibrinolytic parameters, and the production of tissue

plasminogen activator. Nattokinase capsules were also administered orally to

dogs with experimentally induced thrombosis, and lysis of the thrombi was

observed by angiography. The results obtained suggest that nattokinase

represents a possible substance for use not only in the treatment of

embolism but also in the prevention of the disease, since nattokinase has a

proven safety and can be mass produced.

This abstract and others available at Dr Ray Sahelian's website at

http://www.raysahelian.com/nattokinase.html

Simon.

[Guest guest]

Most of the things people have been advising me of are already in my bag of

tricks, however, please never hesitate to help because on never knows. This is

a cancer list and I think I have worn out my welcome regarding Blood thinners

but then again, I am grateful for the response as are others interested in this

subject. I think we will go back to Natokinase which was being used along with

other well-known thinners.

Thanks again for the efforts again proving the worth of this list and its

members.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

My doc prescribed Arixtra after my LTHR - subcutaneous injections in the

abdomen - preloaded syringes - very easy to do. I admit I was thrilled when

they ended after 28 days, but it wasn't difficult. If your insurance covers

it, Arixtra is the best thing for joint surgery as it is designed especially

for that. Lovonox (sp?) is the next best. Coumadin if nothing else is

covered - it requires blood test monitoring and at least theoretically

dietary considerations with respect to Vitamin K intake.

Good luck with your surgery and whatever you worry about, don't worry about

the blood thinner injections!

Betsy

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From: " nikkismom58 " <nikkismom58@...>

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:51 PM

<Joint Replacement >

Subject: blood thinners

> many thanks to everyone that has answered my questions, and of course i

> have another one. my bi-lateral TKR is scheduled for this coming tuesday,

> and one of the things im afraid of (among others) is the blood thinner

> injections. can anyone tell me about this? i hate needles especially if

> it involves sticking myself, i just need to know what to expect.

> thanks again

> diane

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's not painful when you do it correctly, and it's a short and thin needle.

Pinch up a lot of flesh 2 " from your belly button, put the needle in

straight and fast, plunge, and pull it out straight and fast. Straight and

fast are the bywords. Don't do it slowly thinking it will hurt less. It's

not that bad.

From: Joint Replacement

[mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of nikkismom58

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:52 PM

Joint Replacement

Subject: blood thinners

many thanks to everyone that has answered my questions, and of course i have

another one. my bi-lateral TKR is scheduled for this coming tuesday, and one

of the things im afraid of (among others) is the blood thinner injections.

can anyone tell me about this? i hate needles especially if it involves

sticking myself, i just need to know what to expect.

thanks again

diane