Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Hi , We were given a full 3 hours to take the actual test itself. We took the survey questions before they started counting the 3 hours. (i think) I finished the test in 2 hours, but I didn't go back and check my work because my brain was fogged by then. Anyway, with 3 hours, thats more than a minute per question.. and lots of the questions probably take less than 15 seconds if they are non-math. (you pretty much know it or you don't on the non-math questions) When I went into the test and they told us that there were 140 questions, I immediately reminded myself that I needed to answer *around* 25 questions per half hour. I just kept up with time with my watch to make sure I didnt spend too much time on any one question. Also, if I came to a math problem that I thought would take a little more time I just skipped it and saved it for the very end. I didnt want to spend too much time on one problem and then be rushed to finish. I definitely agree with you that a break would be nice. With other standardized tests I have taken they usually have the tests broken up into sections so that you can take a break midway through. I also thought it would be nice if they had the test about an hour later in the day. I had to drive 45 minutes to the test site and wasnt sure where I was going, so I ended up getting up at 5:15. (definitely not at my peak performance that early in the morning) Good luck! I hope you passed! Kim > Hello > > I just took the " Test " for the first time, and honestly > can not say what I think the outcome will be. > > However I think a key issue has been left out, in all > the preparation literature, review text, word of mouth advise, > etc., that ( at least that which I saw and read ), that > being, there are 140 questions, THAT NEED TO BE > ADDRESSED ( I understand only 125 go toward > your final score, but, you do not know which 15 > are being thrown out, which 15 are the survey questions ) . > There are 180 minutes to address then all. > That is about 77 seconds a question. > ( with no restroom breaks, no sitting back to stretch ) > > The bottom line is, you either know the answer, or you don't. > > If I had been made aware of this fact in the beginning, > I would have had planned a different strategy. > > And as far as the math, again, you either know exactly > how to solve for the answer, work it out and go on, > or you find yourself falling farther behind. > > So my point is, I think the whole process is a bit > misleading and misrepresented, seeing as how > there is a $120 price tag attached to it. > > I realize this is a study group and not a " sound off " > bulletin board, so consider this my " study tip " , > for those going ( back ) in July. I will probably > see you there. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Dear and others, I believe that the best place to take your suggestions for change is to PTCB.The have a contact email address and you can email them with your suggestions and concerns. I do believe that they do listen to them and will respond. I may this suggestion respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT Founder/Owner > Hello > > I just took the " Test " for the first time, and honestly > can not say what I think the outcome will be. > > However I think a key issue has been left out, in all > the preparation literature, review text, word of mouth advise, > etc., that ( at least that which I saw and read ), that > being, there are 140 questions, THAT NEED TO BE > ADDRESSED ( I understand only 125 go toward > your final score, but, you do not know which 15 > are being thrown out, which 15 are the survey questions ) . > There are 180 minutes to address then all. > That is about 77 seconds a question. > ( with no restroom breaks, no sitting back to stretch ) > > The bottom line is, you either know the answer, or you don't. > > If I had been made aware of this fact in the beginning, > I would have had planned a different strategy. > > And as far as the math, again, you either know exactly > how to solve for the answer, work it out and go on, > or you find yourself falling farther behind. > > So my point is, I think the whole process is a bit > misleading and misrepresented, seeing as how > there is a $120 price tag attached to it. > > I realize this is a study group and not a " sound off " > bulletin board, so consider this my " study tip " , > for those going ( back ) in July. I will probably > see you there. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Dear , I can tell you that archives of THIS board have discussed this issue of the 140 questions, 125 and the 15 'trial or survey' before. In addition the PTCB site also mentions the 140 quesitons in the section of its site called: " Examination Preparation " . For the record to those who doubt your calculation: 180 minutes is 3 hours and divided by 140 questions is 1.29 minutes per question, which IS 77.4 seconds per question. You are correct. No bathroom breaks is to prevent cheating and retain the integrity of the exam. I did not find this on the PTCB site. But I suggest that you contact them and ask them to add it. However I did hear from some one last year tha they were 'escorted' to the bathroom. I have no proof only the person stated this on the ptcb message board. The only time standardized tests have a break is when the test is going to last all day. I am not sure what 'fact' would have changed your mind about your stratedgy. I believe PTCB has been 'up front' about the 125 + 15 questions in its writing and if it had not you were at least told about 125 questions. And you were all also told in that it would start and end at a certain time on the admissions 'ticket' that was mailed 3 weeks before, weren't you? The PTCB site says that you can expect to be there until 12 noon. And it also says to be there between 7:30 and 8 am. See the section of the PTCB site menu entitled " Day of the Examination " . this is the same page that tells you about " 2 pencils, and calculators, abseence of the exam, withdrawals, emergencies etc. " You are right about the " bottom line " : you either know the answer or not and if it is a math question then you either know how to calculate the answer or not. I think PTCB does a great job of preparing you in what to expect. But it is up to the test taker to read all the available information on their site. Since this site is dedicated to the education and the 'academic' preparation of test takers it does not set out to communicate the specifics of the test format, process, or other general information. However if the questions arise then we do address them, at that time. Yet I would have sent any poster of any question addressing these issues directly to the PTCB site. I am not legally allowed to copy the PTCB info here on this site. I hope now you can see that all but one piece of info (bathroon breaks)was available to you before the exam. I do hope that you will help others to prepare for the next exam, July 26, 03 and bring up these very important points! Most Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chem Founder/Owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Dear Kim, I like your method of 'pacing' yourself during the exam. I hope that you will stick around and give your opinion and helpful hint for the next PTCB exam July 26, 2003. I do believe that you have some valid points regarding the 'early' hour of the exam. I know that this is even MORE PROBLEMATIC during the winter/snow. Regarding your point of a " break " , again there is no break because 1. the test is only 3 hours not all day. 2. to retain the integrity of the exam and prevent cheating. My students take senior finals for 3 to 5 days and they are NOT allowed to take a bathroom break. I hope this helps. Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chem Founder/Owner > > Hello > > > > I just took the " Test " for the first time, and honestly > > can not say what I think the outcome will be. > > > > However I think a key issue has been left out, in all > > the preparation literature, review text, word of mouth advise, > > etc., that ( at least that which I saw and read ), that > > being, there are 140 questions, THAT NEED TO BE > > ADDRESSED ( I understand only 125 go toward > > your final score, but, you do not know which 15 > > are being thrown out, which 15 are the survey questions ) . > > There are 180 minutes to address then all. > > That is about 77 seconds a question. > > ( with no restroom breaks, no sitting back to stretch ) > > > > The bottom line is, you either know the answer, or you don't. > > > > If I had been made aware of this fact in the beginning, > > I would have had planned a different strategy. > > > > And as far as the math, again, you either know exactly > > how to solve for the answer, work it out and go on, > > or you find yourself falling farther behind. > > > > So my point is, I think the whole process is a bit > > misleading and misrepresented, seeing as how > > there is a $120 price tag attached to it. > > > > I realize this is a study group and not a " sound off " > > bulletin board, so consider this my " study tip " , > > for those going ( back ) in July. I will probably > > see you there. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 You may want to look at this site with some info on chemo supplementation that includes astragalus, ginger and glutamine http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/chemotherapy-support-002426.htm Rick losre wrote: A friend of mine is in recovery after having a malignant breast tumor removed. She unfortuneatly also had to lose all the lymphnodes due to the cancer has spread to them. She will now be doing the radiation, and possibly chemo. She is a pharma baby all the way. Will CC and flax oil help any at this point? Also, what can she take if they decide to do chemo, is there anything she can do to lessen the effects? She doesnt handle things very well, and when she wakes up to find it was the worst case scenerio, she will flip. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hi Losregni, This site has some suggestions about combating the adverse effects of chemotherapy: http://tinyurl.com/2aqj9b Another site worth visiting is http://tinyurl.com/2p57xv Best regards, Dudley Delany From: losregni A friend of mine is in recovery after having a malignant breast tumor removed. She unfortuneatly also had to lose all the lymphnodes due to the cancer has spread to them. She will now be doing the radiation, and possibly chemo. She is a pharma baby all the way. Will CC and flax oil help any at this point? Also, what can she take if they decide to do chemo, is there anything she can do to lessen the effects? She doesnt handle things very well, and when she wakes up to find it was the worst case scenerio, she will flip. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 > > A friend of mine is in recovery after having a malignant breast tumor > removed. She unfortuneatly also had to lose all the lymphnodes due to > the cancer has spread to them. She will now be doing the radiation, > and possibly chemo. She is a pharma baby all the way. Will CC and > flax oil help any at this point? Also, what can she take if they > decide to do chemo, is there anything she can do to lessen the > effects? She doesnt handle things very well, and when she wakes up to > find it was the worst case scenerio, she will flip. Any suggestions? > Yes, I would say the Budwig protocol can still help her. But, obviously, it would do her more good if she did NOT do the chemo/rads. xxoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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