Breast cancer

[Guest guest]

When the breast cancer tumor is tested, it will show if it is Estrogen

positive, progesterone positive, both or neither. I do not know about

the deficiency, but definitely too much. Estrogen dominance is caused

by more than one thing, though, and tracking down what the basic cause

is might be difficult. So, the only way to find out if the tumor is

caused by a hormone, is to have a biopsy or a lumpectomy. (Mastectomy,

as well, of course).

ar

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:15:44 -0000, " Guru K " <greatyoga@...> said:

> A little while ago, someone posted info on breast cancer. They said

> it is often caused by hormones. Either a deficiency of progesterone

> or estrogen or too much of either. Is that right? I am especialy

> interested on how one finds if it is actually caused by one of these

> and which hormone and if it is a lack or a surplus.

>

> Thanks

> GB

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oftentimes a dirty liver simply cannot process excessive hormones and

is a contributing factor to imbalances. I found this out the hard

way! Clean the liver and often hormone problems improve or go away.

Sometimes bio-identical hormones need to be taken though.

Sharon

>

> A little while ago, someone posted info on breast cancer. They said

> it is often caused by hormones. Either a deficiency of progesterone

> or estrogen or too much of either. Is that right? I am especialy

> interested on how one finds if it is actually caused by one of these

> and which hormone and if it is a lack or a surplus.

>

> Thanks

> GB

>

[Guest guest]

Arlyn

Thanks for the info. I am still a little confused. Are you saying

that they can look at the biopsy and see if it has too much or either

hormone?

Thanks

GB

>

> When the breast cancer tumor is tested, it will show if it is

Estrogen

> positive, progesterone positive, both or neither. I do not know

about

> the deficiency, but definitely too much. Estrogen dominance is

caused

> by more than one thing, though, and tracking down what the basic

cause

> is might be difficult. So, the only way to find out if the tumor is

> caused by a hormone, is to have a biopsy or a lumpectomy.

(Mastectomy,

> as well, of course).

>

> ar

>

> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:15:44 -0000, " Guru K " <greatyoga@...> said:

> > A little while ago, someone posted info on breast cancer. They

said

> > it is often caused by hormones. Either a deficiency of

progesterone

> > or estrogen or too much of either. Is that right? I am

especialy

> > interested on how one finds if it is actually caused by one of

these

> > and which hormone and if it is a lack or a surplus.

> >

> > Thanks

> > GB

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

GB,

Yes, that is the only way to tell what makes up the tumor. They must do

a biopsy and analyze it.

ar

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:16:30 -0000, " Guru K " <greatyoga@...> said:

> Arlyn

>

> Thanks for the info. I am still a little confused. Are you saying

> that they can look at the biopsy and see if it has too much or either

> hormone?

>

> Thanks

> GB

>

>

> >

> > When the breast cancer tumor is tested, it will show if it is

> Estrogen

> > positive, progesterone positive, both or neither. I do not know

> about

> > the deficiency, but definitely too much. Estrogen dominance is

> caused

> > by more than one thing, though, and tracking down what the basic

> cause

> > is might be difficult. So, the only way to find out if the tumor is

> > caused by a hormone, is to have a biopsy or a lumpectomy.

> (Mastectomy,

> > as well, of course).

> >

> > ar

> >

> > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:15:44 -0000, " Guru K " <greatyoga@...> said:

> > > A little while ago, someone posted info on breast cancer. They

> said

> > > it is often caused by hormones. Either a deficiency of

> progesterone

> > > or estrogen or too much of either. Is that right? I am

> especialy

> > > interested on how one finds if it is actually caused by one of

> these

> > > and which hormone and if it is a lack or a surplus.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > GB

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

A biopsy only opens the place and spreads the cancer. Please go to this

web site and read what it says. This was written in 1948 about Biopsies.

http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm

sounds scary to me to have one done.

Arlyn Grant " wrote:

When the breast cancer tumor is tested, it will show if it is

Estrogen positive, progesterone positive, both or neither. I do not know about

the deficiency, but definitely too much. Estrogen dominance is caused by more

than one thing, though, and tracking down what the basic cause is might be

difficult. So, the only way to find out if the tumor is caused by a hormone, is

to have a biopsy or a lumpectomy.

[Guest guest]

Interesting article, .

Thanks for posting it.

A couple of comments:

Surgery/biopsy does not always " open the place and spread the

cancer. "

Escharotics do not always work/are not foolproof.

If I were a cancer client who wished to make use of an escharotic, I

believe I would be thankful to have such a doctor help me through the

process. Sounds as if he certainly knew what he was doing. Too bad he

is dead and gone already all these years.

Best wishes,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

And yet, understanding the make-up of the cancer can be essential to

understanding how to cure it. You can choose your own poison, so to

speak. I prefer to know what I'm dealing with.

ar

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:07:29 -0000, " mkathryn59 " <mkathryn59@...>

said:

> A biopsy only opens the place and spreads the cancer. Please go to this

> web site and read what it says. This was written in 1948 about Biopsies.

>

> http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm

>

> sounds scary to me to have one done.

>

>

>

> Arlyn Grant " wrote:

> When the breast cancer tumor is tested, it will show if it is

> Estrogen positive, progesterone positive, both or neither. I do not know

> about the deficiency, but definitely too much. Estrogen dominance is

> caused by more than one thing, though, and tracking down what the basic

> cause is might be difficult. So, the only way to find out if the tumor

> is caused by a hormone, is to have a biopsy or a lumpectomy.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/11/08 6:28:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

arlynsg@... writes:

> biopsy only opens the place and spreads the cancer. Please go to this

> > web site and read what it says. This was written in 1948 about Biopsies.

> >

> > http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm

> >

>

It puts us between a rock and a hard place...I was told that if the tumor is

still encapsulated, go ahead and have it removed. It's important with hormone

driven cancer to know this so one can determine the approach to dealing with

it.

If a growth isn't cancer, it's important to know and if it is, it is also

important to know. How does one treat for cancer if you don't know you have it?

I treated my skin cancer with black salve but I suspected it to be skin

cancer because of what was going on and also my intuition...but when something

is

inside the body and growing, isn't it important to know what it is?

S.

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writes:

> If I were a cancer client who wished to make use of an escharotic, I

> believe I would be thankful to have such a doctor help me through the

> process.

is as good as any doctor. She has countless years of experience and

makes her own salves.

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[Guest guest]

This is an issue each person must decide for themselves. My approach

is to live life in as healthy a state as possible. If I discover that

a diet or food or herb or lifestyle will prevent or treat cancer, I try

to incorporate it in my life. I take responsibility for my health. I

try to be in tune with and listen to the still small voice of God who

has promised to lead me and guide me. Therefore I would not accept

diagnostics that can have fatal consequences because the treatment

would be unacceptable to me as well.

On Feb 11, 2008, at 10:21 AM, szukipoo@... wrote:

> It puts us between a rock and a hard place...I was told that if the

> tumor is

> still encapsulated, go ahead and have it removed. It's important with

> hormone driven cancer to know this so one can determine the approach

> to dealing with it.

>

> If a growth isn't cancer, it's important to know and if it is, it is

> also

> important to know. How does one treat for cancer if you don't know

> you have it?

>

> I treated my skin cancer with black salve but I suspected it to be skin

> cancer because of what was going on and also my intuition...but when

> something is inside the body and growing, isn't it important to know

> what it is?

>

> S.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/17/08 11:35:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,

belinda_swep@... writes:

> my mother had an needle biopsy on an swollen lymph node in her

> breast. It showed abnormal cells. what is the first step that we should

> make concerning this. my mother is 79 years old and we don't want her

> going through any harsh treatments. does anyone know a good cancer center in

> north carolina.

>

It's hard to find but when I was younger I had a non cancerous lump removed

(we didn't know it until it was biopsied) without being put out, just with a

local and some valium. It was the best decision I ever made but since then I

haven't found even one doctor that will do any procedure without putting a

patient out. That was one rare doctor I had. His daughter had died of breast

cancer and he was committed and very sensitive and gentle.

If your mom can find a doctor that will remove the lump, encapsulated,

without anesthesia, that would be good to do. There is also freezing the lump,

etc.

I wouldn't recommend black salve at her age but maybe I'm wrong about that?

There are also frequency treatments that have been mentioned.

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[Guest guest]

Hello Belinda,

I don't know any cancer center in your area but DO

KNOW that any treatment is harsh, having gone through

all of them myself ( surgery, radiation and

chemotherapy) To only be told that nothing worked

and learned so much along the way.

There is a gentle medicine with no side effects that

many of us with far more serious stages of cancer

take- Low dose naltrexone.

http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/

There is a group just for us with cancer and

LDN:

LDN_4_cancer/

and the links sections have all the required reading

and articles, testimonies, etc.:

LDN_4_cancer/links

This should be a priority for your mom and I would do

the same for my mom. Your oncologist won't know about

it as most dont. They know their protocol- surgery,

radiation and poison " chemo " .

Take care,

Dee

http://www.ldn4cancer.com

--- belinda_swep wrote:

> my mother had an needle biopsy on an swollen lymph

> node in her

> breast. It showed abnormal cells. what is the first

> step that we should

> make concerning this. my mother is 79 years old and

> we don't want her

> going through any harsh treatments. does anyone know

> a good cancer center in north carolina.

[Guest guest]

>

> No I have not, my question to you would be about your vulnerability, the

> soft underbelly of your being, meaning your tears, your feelings, and where

> are they and where they have been especially the year or so leading up to

> your cancer.

I'm in quite a bit of a quandry, these days, with regard to this. My only child

has decided that she no longer wants me in her life and wants no further

communication with me. I have adored her for the past 23 years, and raised her

all by myself, for the most part. Now, for reasons that she won't discuss with

me, she doesn't want me any more. This has broken my heart more than I can

begin to explain. This grieving is not good for me, but I don't know how to

stop it.

xxoo

[Guest guest]

They are super good products. Get the books written by the creator of

them and see his experience of how he got well.

You will do well taking them.

Be careful of biopsies as they spread the cancer cells.

Read this here for proof of it. It was written in 1948 by a MD.

http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm

<http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm>

[Guest guest]

??? What products? What books?

>

> They are super good products. Get the books written by the creator of

> them and see his experience of how he got well.

> You will do well taking them.

> Be careful of biopsies as they spread the cancer cells.

> Read this here for proof of it. It was written in 1948 by a MD.

>

>

> http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm

> <http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm>

>

[Guest guest]

Arise and Shine are colon cleansing products you can order on line and

the man has a couple of books he wrote on his experience.

Here is the web site for them.

http://www.ariseandshine.com/

Not many health food stores carry this product.

> >

> > They are super good products. Get the books written by the creator

of

> > them and see his experience of how he got well.

> > You will do well taking them.

> > Be careful of biopsies as they spread the cancer cells.

> > Read this here for proof of it. It was written in 1948 by a MD.

> >

> >

> > http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm

> > <http://sunwatt.mystarband.net/valueofescharotics1948.htm>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine has just come back from successfully helping a relative

have the same black salve results with breast cancer as she herself had

experienced earlier in the year.

In addition, she said: My sister-in-law checked my back while I was over

there - something I've never got anyone to do before. She found a

suspicious looking spot - applied black salve, and within half hour it

had erupted. The tumour only came out last week!!-it took so long I was

beginning to wonder what was going on. I think it was just so deep, and

probably entwined around the spine, as it was very close.

This lady has treated numerous skin cancers with black salve and other

herbal concoctions.

She managed her own breast cancer treatment, and it came out in one

piece; she said it " moved " on the table. The trouble is that it was

painful, but then, so is an operation.

There are accounts and photos of the process on the net. (Black salve +

breast cancer)

Rowena

[Guest guest]

Hi Paras Alterative work for me I have prostrate cancer but for 17 years

my tumour marker my PSA stayed around a psa of only 4 But in 2007 I had

a prostate biopsy from then on it made my prostrate cancer worst with in

a year my psa was 13.8 I had prostrate bone metisses and bad urine

retention. I ended up seeing a naturopath who told me about the roll

just simple sugars play in cancer since 2008 I’ve had no treatment bar a

very low sugar diet and high dose vitamin and minerals. It worked my PSA

dropped to a PSA of 8 five month ago. But it would be lower now. I’ve

got to know there is no such thing as a cure for cancer. all there is

only a balance between the amount of cancer cell being produce and the

amount of cancer cell our immune system can kill off. And that just

simple sugars pay a big role in making our cancer worst even fruit has a

lot of sugar in it just one apple has a tea spoon of sugar fruit juice

has double the amount of sugar the fruit it come from had on the

Alterative I’m more healthier then I’ve been in years so they work

cheers Ray

On 15/12/2009 1:54 AM, P. J. Rayththa wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> Is any one here who have cured cancer with alternative therapy ? some

> one in my family has breast cancer (her2+, ER week +) with Mets in

> Liver and Bones.

> �

> Paras.

>

>

[Guest guest]

in 3/07, when my then going on 83 yr old dad was dx with stomach cancer, we got him on LDN within 2 weeks

they put in stents and did chemo once a week

6 months later they did a CT scan, saw his tumors shrunk in half and stopped the chemo

3 months later they declared him in remission and stable

3 months after that they did another CT scan and were surprised his tumors shrunk in half again

Last July, 2.3 years from DX, another CT scan showed his tumors shrunk even more.

He's 85 1/2 now and has a much more active social life than I have.

[Norton AntiSpam] [low dose naltrexone] breast cancer

Hello guys

My mom was diagnosed with breast cancer. They will be removing her breast and lymph nodes next week. She is 83 and not on LDN. What would you do? Any or all sugestions would be greatly appreciated.

s

[Guest guest]

Larry, what excellent news, tell me, did your dad take the LDN whilst on chemo, and if you remember, what kind of chemo was he on?

Cheers

Celia

[Guest guest]

3/15/07 was his DX, 3/28/07 he started LDN, I imagine the first chemo was 3/20.

He took 3 nights of 1.5, 3 nights of 3.0 and then 4.5 MG for the duration.

http://www.larrygc.com/mystory has some about it.

The chemo name started with a T, I don't think I wrote it down, I sent an email to my sister, I'm sure she knows

Re: [low dose naltrexone] breast cancer

Larry, what excellent news, tell me, did your dad take the LDN whilst on chemo, and if you remember, what kind of chemo was he on?

Cheers

Celia

[Guest guest]

's mother has/had breast cancer and uses LDN. This is her story:

http://ldn.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=personal & action=display & thread=816

>

> Hello guys

>

> My mom was diagnosed with breast cancer. They will be removing her breast and

lymph nodes next week. She is 83 and not on LDN. What would you do? Any or all

sugestions would be greatly appreciated.

>

> s

>

[Guest guest]

Sherra,

It is your choice to remove your breasts. If it is something that you want to

do, then do it.

Do remember, though, that mastectomy can not remove ALL the breast tissue. It

is still possible to get breast cancer again after a mastectomy.

ar

>

> what do any of you think of having both breast tissue removed and replaced

with implants to rid of the cancer? Sherra

>

[Guest guest]

I think removing an encapsulated tumor is OK but in general I believe that your

body can heal itself of cancer, with your help of course, and regenerate normal

healthy tissue in place of the cancerous tissue. Well, it's not just a belief as

I've had too many customers with success against cancer using alternative means.

[Guest guest]

,

Tell me about these successes - how many were breast cancer? At what stage?

Hormone positive or triple negative? What treatments were successful?

I think that the body CAN heal itself of cancer - but not all cancers and not

all the time.

ar

>

> I think removing an encapsulated tumor is OK but in general I believe that

your body can heal itself of cancer, with your help of course, and regenerate

normal healthy tissue in place of the cancerous tissue. Well, it's not just a

belief as I've had too many customers with success against cancer using

alternative means.

>