Re: Anti-Estrogen

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This is what I ordered for my situation and to reduce estrogen:

Name Code Qty Each Options

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Vital Yew ( Pacific Yew )

Salve - 1 oz.

Vital Yew ( Pacific Yew )

Oil Tincture, 100%

Organic - 1 fl. oz.

Alfa Max, Alfalfa

Extract, Nature's Way

525mg - 100 Capsules

Astragalus Root Tincture,

100% Organic - 2 fl. oz.

Green Tea Extract

Tincture, Herbal Remedies

USA - 2 fl oz

Chamomile Tincture, 100%

Organic - 2 fl. oz.

Cat's Claw Supplement,

Tincture - 2 fl oz.

Noni, Liquid Extract -

30ml

Any thoughts or comments?

[Guest guest]

I use only stevia and vegetable glycerine. I called clinics, including Tree of

Life in Arizona (Dr. Cousens retreat in Arizona) to check this out. They

allow vegetable glycerine, which is made of coconut oil.

 

I am so grateful that I posted the information last night. It is so wonderful to

give back to others on this site who have helped me so much.

 

[Guest guest]

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Please don't rush out and buy any of the supplements yet. I need to throughly

research this. It is becoming more and more complicated. Some of the items on

the list, which were going to me some of the top anti-estrogenic herbs, have

been reported in other locations as ineffective now. Can you believe that?

 

Read this from one website:

" The first estrogen blocking supplement to be introduced, and perhaps the most

popular one to date is the isoflavone chrysin. Yes, chrysin has some good

in-vitro ( " test tube " ) research on it that demonstrates it blocks aromatase.

However, for years many experts including myself have contended that it suffers

from very poor bioavailability, and therefore is ineffective in-vivo. Recently,

an article has been published in a very reputable journal that substantiates

this suspicion. So chrysin, as promising as it once seemed, unfortunately

appears to be a total bust.

After chrysin there was Indole-3-carbinol and Di-indoylmethane. These related

compounds work by shifting the metabolism of estrogens away from strong estrogen

compounds (16-hydroxylated) and towards weaker estrogens (2-hydroxylated). This

can have benefits for women prone to breast cancer as 16-hydroxylated estrogens

are quite notorious for promoting estrogen dependent breast cancer. However,

there has never been any benefit demonstrated in men for reducing estrogen

related effects or for increasing androgen levels. In fact, these compounds may

actually REDUCE androgen levels. So for males looking to reduce estrogen and

raise testosterone, I-3-C and DIM are poor choices.

In addition to these aforementioned compounds there have been a slew of other

compounds sold for estrogen control purposes. These include bioflavonoids such

as quercitin, herbs such as Vitex Agnus Castus, and phytochemicals such as

resveratrol (3,5,4'-trihydroxystilbene). None of these has ever been

substantiated by any research to reduce estrogen levels or to increase

testosterone levels. "

 

Also, while I was googling some other information, an amazing site came up that

in postmenopausal women, like me, who have become resistant to anti-estrogen

drugs, they are now giving ESTROGEN to these women with estrogen-dependent

tumors to fool the cancer. It is working in 30% of women in one study. They then

go back to the anti-estrogen drugs, which work again. They can go back and forth

for awhile.

 

This is a very complicated thing I am trying to do here. I am hanging out with

body builder's supplements on the internet and discovering a lot of information.

 

This will be a crazy week for me so I won't be able to do much, but I will be

back on it next week. I am very excited about all the possibilities.

 

Estrogen is made from cholesterol. A high level of cholesterol indicates a high

level of cholesterol. Get a test to see what your cholesterol is.

 

 

This is what I ordered for my situation and to reduce estrogen.....

[Guest guest]

To Anyone Who Wants to Lower Estrogen,

Below are some research excerpts on the anti-estrogen effects of flax

seeds, which have lignans, and flax oil, which is high in omega 3

essential fatty acids.

For hormone sensitive cancers, flaxseed lignans, which are in the seed

shell, can lower estrogen dominance in women and men. You can buy

flax seeds and flax seed oil at most health food stores. Whole flax

seeds sell for about a dollar a pound and can be ground in a coffee

bean grinder in small amounts as needed. If you don't want to use

them in the flax oil/cottage cheese recipe, you can use them in

salads and juices two or three times a day, a tablespoon each time.

There's even research showing that they are beneficial to health when

baked in muffins.

But, to get the full benefit, flax seeds should be used within about

15 minutes after grinding, which takes only a few seconds; and they

shouldn't be heated, which can damage the oil in them, even though the

lignans are still helpful.

Regarding flax seed oil, if you prefer to avoid cottage cheese or

yogurt, you can simply swallow a tablespoon of oil, followed by juice

if you don't like the taste. Doing that once or twice a day will give

you the benefits of the omega 3 essential fatty acids. This is not as

powerful as what is recommended in the Budwig plan, but for those who

don't want to consume dairy, taking flax seeds and oil in this way

can help.

There are many quotes from researchers on this subject on the web.

Here are a few:

" Lignans subdue cancerous changes once they've occurred, rendering

them less likely to race out of control and develop into full-blown

cancer, " says flax researcher Lilian , Ph.D., professor of

nutritional sciences at the University of Toronto.

" Even when estrogen-sensitive tumors get a chance to grow, lignans

exert a restraining influence that can slow or even halt their

growth. In a laboratory study, breast tumors in animals given flax

seed shrank by 50 percent in seven weeks. "

" Flaxseed has two additional cancer-fighting secrets. It's a rich

source of polyunsaturated fats, including omega-3 fatty acids, which

appear to limit the body's production of chemicals called

prostaglandins. This is important because prostaglandins, in large

amounts, can " speed up tumor growth, " says Bandaru S. Reddy, Ph.D.,

chief of the division of nutritional carcinogenesis at the

American Health Foundation in Valhalla, New York. "

Below is one of many member testimonials from a woman who had

advanced breast cancer, was estrogen positive and had mets

to her spine. She overcame it all by using the Budwig plan. She

posted many times in the group and more recently gave an update

saying that she continues to be healthy. For more testimonials on

many types of cancer, please see the FlaxseedOil2 Files - Folder 6.

FlaxSeedOil2

From: Daphne

Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Estrogen positive

" I am estrogen positive at 12 on a scale from one to twelve and since

starting the Flax Oil/Cottage Cheese 5 years ago have had no sign of

my secondary breast cancer any more. "

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Besides consuming FO/CC, Daphne also followed the full Budwig plan of

nutrition, sun therapy and stress reduction. But, as the above

research quotes suggest, adding flax seeds and flax seed oil to your

daily menu can be helpful to anyone with estrogen-dominant cancer.

[Guest guest]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:36:12 -0800 (PST), " Dorr "

<dorrnancy@...> said:

> Estrogen is made from cholesterol. A high level of cholesterol indicates

> a high level of cholesterol. Get a test to see what your cholesterol is.

,

Where did you read that estrogen is made from cholesterol? I can't find

a source for that.

ar

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Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

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http://www.greenspangoodhealth.com/estrogen.php

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, " Dorr " said:

> Estrogen is made from cholesterol. A high level of cholesterol indicates a

high level of cholesterol. Get a test to see what your cholesterol is.

>

,

Where did you read that estrogen is made from cholesterol? I can't find a source

for that.

ar

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Arlyn Grant

arlynsg123mail (DOT) org

[Guest guest]

OK, Cholesterol is the building block for Estrogen? Assuming the person that

wrote the article about it is correct, looks like we have a problem because

Cholesterol is not only natural, it is needed.

It has been speculated that some of the problems with Dementia and old age is

the result of too low a cholesterol level due to over use of Statins. I read

that the brain contains much of the cholesterol used by the body.

The article did say that we can " assume that high cholesterol levels mean we are

not eliminating the Estrogen. " Note the article said, " assume " meaning that

he is not stating it as established fact.

If the article is correct we again come to the conclusion it isn't the

cholesterol or the estrogen but the body not functioning properly thereby making

these normal functions act abnormally. It all comes back to improperly

functioning physiology mostly affected by improper

living/eating/drinking/thinking. Those four things cover a lot of territory.

Now, what to do about it. ??

Joe C.

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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:11:08 -0500, " JCastron1 " <jcastron1@...>

said:

> If the article is correct we again come to the conclusion it isn't the

> cholesterol or the estrogen but the body not functioning properly thereby

> making these normal functions act abnormally. It all comes back to

> improperly functioning physiology mostly affected by improper

> living/eating/drinking/thinking. Those four things cover a lot of

> territory. Now, what to do about it. ??

>

> Joe C.

This has been making my head spin a bit. I've always had high

cholestrol - but as a vegetarian, it is a crazy thing. It took three

years of a strict veg diet for my cholesterol to come down. Due to my

eating habits and my exercise, I've never been offered statins - though

the rest of my family are on them. Now, my total cholesterol is around

190 but the good cholesterol is higher than the bad.

Another chain in the wacky body is that high cholesterol is an indicator

of thyroid disease.

ar

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Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...