Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 My sisters friend had cancer and tried all kinds of holistic remedies, even going to mexico to a retreat which she did come back from much improved. But she had so many ill feelings towards her ex-husband. I think that harboring ill feelings/emotions will negate any attempts at health at the physical level. Not implying anything, but if there are unresolved emotional issues they need to be resolved in a manner that restores peace to the body. All the best, Jim > A friend of mine, who is an acupuncturist, non smoker, and into > alternative health modalities has been diagnosed with stage 4 lung > cancer and is ridden with tumors. She has tried alternative remedies > but the tumors are growing. i would like to offer her some advise, she > has been inundated with remedies I am sure, so I want to give her a > short list before she bows to chemo. Any suggestions? Thanx, Dean... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Dean The Gerson Therapy. Their offices are in San Diego and the clinic is in Tijuana. They do cure cancer, or I should say they present the body with what is needed to cure itself. I was there years ago and remember a conversation I had with an MD from Minnesota who was there observing. His bottom line was " if I get cancer, I'm coming here. " Your friends' chances of success with the Gerson Therapy are very high IF she hasn't been decimated by chemo or the other atrocities used by Oncologists, those " jackals among men. " Corny Re: Stage 4 Lung Cancer My sisters friend had cancer and tried all kinds of holistic remedies, even going to mexico to a retreat which she did come back from much improved. But she had so many ill feelings towards her ex-husband. I think that harboring ill feelings/emotions will negate any attempts at health at the physical level. Not implying anything, but if there are unresolved emotional issues they need to be resolved in a manner that restores peace to the body. All the best, Jim > A friend of mine, who is an acupuncturist, non smoker, and into > alternative health modalities has been diagnosed with stage 4 lung > cancer and is ridden with tumors. She has tried alternative remedies > but the tumors are growing. i would like to offer her some advise, she > has been inundated with remedies I am sure, so I want to give her a > short list before she bows to chemo. Any suggestions? Thanx, Dean... OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups<mailto:oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups> oxyplus-normalonelist<mailto:oxyplus-normalonelist> - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Dear Dean,, We have had good success on lung cancer with the ozone sauna. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: dean devener <dean@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Stage 4 Lung Cancer Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 11:56:27 -0800 A friend of mine, who is an acupuncturist, non smoker, and into alternative health modalities has been diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and is ridden with tumors. She has tried alternative remedies but the tumors are growing. i would like to offer her some advise, she has been inundated with remedies I am sure, so I want to give her a short list before she bows to chemo. Any suggestions? Thanx, Dean... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 I think you are right Jim and that is why I am so glad to know about EFT. It is such a simple tool to help people work through this kind of thing very easily in a short period of time. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com thmicom wrote: > > > My sisters friend had cancer and tried all kinds of holistic > remedies, even going to mexico to a retreat which she did come back > from much improved. But she had so many ill feelings towards her > ex-husband. I think that harboring ill feelings/emotions will > negate any attempts at health at the physical level. Not implying > anything, but if there are unresolved emotional issues they need to > be resolved in a manner that restores peace to the body. > > All the best, > Jim > <http://www.nod32.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 More so than insulflation? Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Dean,, > > We have had good success on lung cancer with the ozone sauna. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > nod32.com <http://www.nod32.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 More so than insulflation? Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Dean,, > > We have had good success on lung cancer with the ozone sauna. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > nod32.com <http://www.nod32.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 Dear Donna, We have been able to halt the growth of lung tumors with vaginal insufflation, but not eliminate them, as we have done with funneling in the ozone sauna. However, stopping the growth of the tumors removes the threat, so that is a big achievement. Also, there is less detox rash with vaginal insufflation, for most people. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: CountryGirl <ruthful@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Stage 4 Lung Cancer Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:19:16 -0800 More so than insulflation? Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Dean,, > > We have had good success on lung cancer with the ozone sauna. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > nod32.com <http://www.nod32.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Hi Saul. So if a person has lung cancer they should do the sauna but funnel the ozone over the lungs, front and back? Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Donna, > > We have been able to halt the growth of lung tumors with vaginal > insufflation, but > not eliminate them, as we have done with funneling in the ozone sauna. > > However, stopping the growth of the tumors removes the threat, so that > is a > big > achievement. > > Also, there is less detox rash with vaginal insufflation, for most people. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > <http://www.nod32.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Dear Donna, Yes. Best of Health! Dr. Saul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: CountryGirl <ruthful@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Stage 4 Lung Cancer Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:13:16 -0800 Hi Saul. So if a person has lung cancer they should do the sauna but funnel the ozone over the lungs, front and back? Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Donna, > > We have been able to halt the growth of lung tumors with vaginal > insufflation, but > not eliminate them, as we have done with funneling in the ozone sauna. > > However, stopping the growth of the tumors removes the threat, so that > is a > big > achievement. > > Also, there is less detox rash with vaginal insufflation, for most people. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > <http://www.nod32.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Markamala, you would do well to visit LDN_4_cancer/ as we have a few on there including myself with stage four lung cancer, we are having some success with LDN. Funds will not be depleted on this.....Also check out 's database and see what you think...... http://www.ldn-database.carnebeach.com/ Best Celia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Many thanks, Celia, and wishing you a joyous life and LDN healing.From: Celia <celia@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:46:31 PMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Stage 4 Lung Cancer Markamala, you would do well to visit    http://health. groups.. com/group/ LDN_4_cancer/    as we have a few on there including myself with stage four lung cancer, we are having some success with LDN. Funds will not be depleted on this.....Also check out 's database and see what you think...... http://www.ldn- database. carnebeach. com/ Best Celia  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 At stage 4 lung cancer, if really true, most current therapies are purely palliative, designed to maybe shrink the tumors for awhile and buy some time and reduce symptoms. There is really no realistic cure. 90-95% of the time this is a very temporary situation. LDN and good nutrition can be no worse than these traditional treatments, and certainly help fight body fight the cancer. If the treatments include radiation, I would do this if it were me if you can afford it. This will help shrink the tumor and the body will have less work to do. Bottom line - try the LDN, but review what drugs that are incompatible with it so it can not be comproised. Best Bob C From: makarmala <makarmala@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Stage 4 Lung Cancerlow dose naltrexone Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 4:32 PM I have two friends with stage 4 lung cancer, who are open to trying alternative meds, but their funds are being depleted by trying various methods. Is LDN effective with lung cancer? Any personal success (or not) stories that I can pass on to my dear friends?many thanks,Makarmala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Thank you, Bob C.  I agree. Now to inform my friends.MakarmalaFrom: ROBERT CASTANARO <castanaro@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:58:05 PMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Stage 4 Lung Cancer At stage 4 lung cancer, if really true, most current therapies are purely palliative, designed to maybe shrink the tumors for awhile and buy some time and reduce symptoms. There is really no realistic cure.  90-95% of the time this is a very temporary situation. LDN and good nutrition can be no worse than these traditional treatments, and certainly help fight body fight the cancer. If the treatments include radiation, I would do this if it were me if you can afford it. This will help shrink the tumor and the body will have less work to do. Bottom line - try the LDN, but review what drugs that are incompatible with it so it can not be comproised. Best Bob C From: makarmala <makarmala (DOT) com>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Stage 4 Lung Cancerlow dose naltrexoneDate: Friday, February 13, 2009, 4:32 PM I have two friends with stage 4 lung cancer, who are open to trying alternative meds, but their funds are being depleted by trying various methods. Is LDN effective with lung cancer? Any personal success (or not) stories that I can pass on to my dear friends?many thanks,Makarmala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 The Budwig protocol works well with lung cancer, flaxseedoil2 is a good place to start. Blessings, Vicki > > Hello everyone, my name is pat. My uncle was most recently diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. I am writing today to find out if anyone has any advice on how he should treat lung cancer and various methods ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 This message was posted a couple of weeks ago and may give you some hope. I have a close friend that was recently diagnosed with Stage 4 lung cancer, this set in motion my quest for a " natural " solution to his potentially fatal problem. While In conversation with an old friend one day a passerby overhead the details of our discussion which at the time happened to be about my friends lung cancer. This gentleman went on to say that he had literally just cured his wife after 4 weeks from fatal Leukemia, the doctors are baffled he continued. He suggested I do some research on Capsaicin, that's what I did. It really appears that this miracle ingredient can kill the cancer cells, disrupt their mitochondria so they literally turn on themselves without damaging the surrounding healthy cells. " Kelley Eidem, the " inventor " of a novel " recipe " to erase cancerous tumors, is the accomplished author of what I consider a very important book, The Doctor Who Cures Cancer. The physician whose outstanding achievements and lifework are thoroughly covered in this work* is Dr. Emanuel Revici. Based upon what Kelley Eidem had learned when researching and writing his book on the life work of Dr. Revici, he devised a simple formula that (coupled with the serene conviction that he could do it) helped him heal his stage 4 cancer. You can find more information by going to the website: http://hubpages.com/hub/How-I-Cured-Stage-4-Cancer-in-Two-Weeks-For-Less-Than-Th\ e-Cost-Of-A-Night-At-The-Movies > > Hello everyone, my name is pat. My uncle was most recently diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. I am writing today to find out if anyone has any advice on how he should treat lung cancer and various methods ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Hi Pat, >Katari Oliver <katarioliver@...> wrote: >My uncle was most recently diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. Is it small- (SCLC) or non-small-cell lung cancer (NSCLC)? For NSCLC, the most effective treatments I know of are PROTOCEL, selenium, MELATONIN, PSK/coriolus versicolor, asparagus, broccoli & other vegetables; frankincense, Poly-MVA; Ukrain, IPT, IV vit. C (w/K3), Newcastle vaccine; Naltrexone, immunotherapy, and angiogenesis inhibitors. For NSCLC, I definitely would NOT do conventional chemotherapy. Let me know if you'd like more info about anything. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Pat- Several therapies to consider- vitamin D, fish oil, green tea extract (EGCG), curcumin, broad spectrum antioxidants- I supplement with all and I have remained in complete remission with multiple myeloma since 4/99- the links below are to studies about each- Consider supplementation during conventional therapies as the studies below document both single agent use as well as complimentary use. 1) http://lungcancer.peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/vitamin-d-fights-lung-cancer- 2)http://lungcancer.peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/cure-lung-cancer-may-be-fish\ -oil 3) http://lungcancer.peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/effect-dietary-polyphenon-e-an\ d-egcg-lung-tumorigenesis-aj-mice 4) http://lungcancer.peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/curcumin-sensitizes-non-small-\ cell-lung-cancer-cell-anoikis-through-reactive-oxygen-species- Broad spectrum antioxidant supplementation- http://peoplebeatingcancer.org/article/impact-antioxidant-supplementation-chemot\ herapeutic-efficacy-systematic-review-evidence-rand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Hello everyone, since I last wrote in to groups I have was told the specific name of my uncles cancer ANDENO CARCINOMA. Its located in his chest, pelvis and liver. What I would like to know is do the recommendations for treatment still apply? In addition since i last wrote in I was informed that not only was cancer located in my uncles chest but also in his liver and pelvis. Thanks for all suggestions, Pat On Wed Nov 17th, 2010 9:36 AM EST Leonard wrote: >Hi Pat, >>Katari Oliver <katarioliver@...> wrote: >>My uncle was most recently diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. > >Is it small- (SCLC) or non-small-cell lung cancer (NSCLC)? > >For NSCLC, the most effective treatments I know of are >PROTOCEL, selenium, MELATONIN, PSK/coriolus versicolor, asparagus, broccoli & other vegetables; frankincense, Poly-MVA; Ukrain, IPT, IV vit. C (w/K3), Newcastle vaccine; Naltrexone, immunotherapy, and angiogenesis inhibitors. >For NSCLC, I definitely would NOT do conventional chemotherapy. > >Let me know if you'd like more info about anything. > >Leonard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Katari Oliver <katarioliver@...> wrote: >ANDENO CARCINOMA. Adenocarcinoma would be NSCLC (see below). <<Its located in his chest, pelvis and liver. What I would like to know is do the [things below] still apply?>> If I had this condition (as you describe), I would follow the below guidelines AND I would immediately go to a clinic in Tijuana or Germany for several weeks, as this condition requires very intensive treatment. >where can the products you suggested earler be purchased? most of them at health-food stores; a few require doctor prescription > On Wed Nov 17th, 2010 9:36 AM EST Leonard wrote: > >For NSCLC, the most effective treatments I know of are > >PROTOCEL, selenium, MELATONIN, PSK/coriolus versicolor, asparagus, broccoli & other vegetables; frankincense, Poly-MVA; Ukrain, IPT, IV vit. C (w/K3), Newcastle vaccine; Naltrexone, immunotherapy, and angiogenesis inhibitors. > >For NSCLC, I definitely would NOT do conventional chemotherapy. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Does that mean if it were small cell carcinoma of the lung that you would recommend conventional chemo? " Leonard " <leonardleonard1@...> wrote: > Katari Oliver <katarioliver@> wrote: > >ANDENO CARCINOMA. > Adenocarcinoma would be NSCLC (see below). > > <<Its located in his chest, pelvis and liver. What I would like to know is do the [things below] still apply?>> If I had this condition (as you describe), I would follow the below guidelines AND I would immediately go to a clinic in Tijuana or Germany for several weeks, as this condition requires very intensive treatment. > >where can the products you suggested earler be purchased? most of them at health-food stores; a few require doctor prescription On Wed Nov 17th, 2010 9:36 AM EST Leonard wrote: For NSCLC, the most effective treatments I know of are PROTOCEL, selenium, MELATONIN, PSK/coriolus versicolor, asparagus, broccoli & other vegetables; frankincense, Poly-MVA; Ukrain, IPT, IV vit. C (w/K3), Newcastle vaccine; Naltrexone, immunotherapy, and angiogenesis inhibitors. For NSCLC, I definitely would NOT do conventional chemotherapy. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 " okbadgirl61 " <okbadgirl61@...> wrote: > Does that mean if it were small cell carcinoma of the lung [sCLC] that you would recommend conventional chemo? I wasn't exactly saying that. An argument can certainly be made in favor of conventional chemo for SCLC, as it's very responsive to chemo, and most alt. practitioners are rarely successful w/SCLC. However, if I had SCLC, I would probably get IPT, hyperthermia, immunotherapy, and Protocel, along w/other alt. therapies. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Thank You for ur respond to earlier message! Also if i was to seek chemo as well as alternative treatment, would the chemo defeat the alternative treatment! i have read up somewhat on treatment in mexico. any info is greatly appreciated!!!! are you a med student or doctorian of some sort? Thank You again Leonard > Does that mean if it were small cell carcinoma of the lung [sCLC] that you would recommend conventional chemo? I wasn't exactly saying that. An argument can certainly be made in favor of conventional chemo for SCLC, as it's very responsive to chemo, and most alt. practitioners are rarely successful w/SCLC. However, if I had SCLC, I would probably get IPT, hyperthermia, immunotherapy, and Protocel, along w/other alt. therapies. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 ok ive done alot of reading of all these diets, as to budwig diet ive seen different things u can have but yet get told by others that its not aloud!! so Leonard can you tell me if having a zapper or rife machine would help any! since i seem to always be wrong on all the things ive seem that a person can have. please help me to understand foods,etc. I'm to the point of giving up on helping this person since everything ive been told is wrong! Thank You For NSCLC, the most effective treatments I know of are PROTOCEL, selenium, MELATONIN, PSK/coriolus versicolor, asparagus, broccoli & other vegetables; frankincense, Poly-MVA; Ukrain, IPT, IV vit. C (w/K3), Newcastle vaccine; Naltrexone, immunotherapy, and angiogenesis inhibitors. For NSCLC, I definitely would NOT do conventional chemotherapy. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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