Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 One Story from: http://www.curezone.com/forums/message.asp?f=80 & i=1830 ===================================== Subject: 3rd flush results From: < no email > Date: Today 00:26 May 31 2002 Hi everyone, Just to fill you in. My first flush produced 1000's of stones. I felt great afterwards - all of my allergies disappeared and constipation and gas was better than it had been in years. Also my shoulder pain went away overnight. After 3 weeks I was getting all of these problems back. I flushed again and this time produced 20 or so large stones and a couple of 100 smaller ones. Again symptoms disappeared. I saved some of the stones and finally got around to testing them in a UV spectrophotometer. This is not a definative test however I did see a major peak at 450 nm where cholesterol absorbs. I'm relatively sure that bile salts don't absorb in this region (although I can't be certain without a sample of bile salts). The control sample was gratefruit juice, olive oil and epsom salts and I didn't see a peak at 450. To the none scientists out there this is almost proof that these are gallstones. Just one more test to do and I will try and do that soon. It has now been 3 weeks since my last flush and my gallbladder feel full and my symptoms are back. I will flush this weekend. Does anyone know if it's typical to feel full with these things, because I don't think it's my imagination. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 Agnes; I love this post from the CureZone. Now this just goes to show that there are methods of showing the stones are factually cholesterol based. It would be pretty interesting if Barry could get part of his stone tested in this manner. I don't think a person could feel the fullness of the gallbladder like one would a stomach. So, I would imagine that their feeling is more pychosymatic even though it could be quite real as a matter of fact of which would need to be done by an MRI, ultrasound, or, heaven forbid, a gallbladder removal to prove that there are stones filling that void. Dale >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: 3rd flush results From: < no email > Date: Today 00:26 May 31 2002 Hi everyone, Just to fill you in. My first flush produced 1000's of stones. I felt great afterwards - all of my allergies disappeared and constipation and gas was better than it had been in years. Also my shoulder pain went away overnight. After 3 weeks I was getting all of these problems back. I flushed again and this time produced 20 or so large stones and a couple of 100 smaller ones. Again symptoms disappeared. I saved some of the stones and finally got around to testing them in a UV spectrophotometer. This is not a definative test however I did see a major peak at 450 nm where cholesterol absorbs. I'm relatively sure that bile salts don't absorb in this region (although I can't be certain without a sample of bile salts). The control sample was gratefruit juice, olive oil and epsom salts and I didn't see a peak at 450. To the none scientists out there this is almost proof that these are gallstones. Just one more test to do and I will try and do that soon. It has now been 3 weeks since my last flush and my gallbladder feel full and my symptoms are back. I will flush this weekend. Does anyone know if it's typical to feel full with these things, because I don't think it's my imagination. Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2002 Report Share Posted May 31, 2002 Agnes and Dale, I love this post as well. For me I see it somewhat different than Dale does. We all see many views of positive points of information. Mathew, Mark, Luke, and did as well. :-) For me it is obvious that the flush has removed cholesterol bile in this persons case. Weither the test is complete or not as it states is not the point. The fact is that many tests have already proved that it is bile with cholesterol that is flushed vs. olive oil which has no cholesterol. The real fact that shows up to me is that bile can be in the cholesterol form of soft flushed balls and also hardened gallstones. To call the soft bile balls 'gallstones' because they have cholesterol is the mistake that is made by terminology here. Hard systemodic gallstones produce colic while soft bile balls do not. Hard gallstones will not always exit in a flush while soft bile form will almost always exit with a flush weither you have sytemodic gallstones or not. This leads to the method producing the results. Another point is that after the soothing 'coating' effect of the oil exits the body the symptoms return as before. Even after thousands of balls are removed with flushing the balls will continue to come out forever with flushing. Also the colic or bloating feeling of the systemodic problem will return. This person seems to be masking or bandaiding the real problem within the digestive system. Flushing forever is one answer for this but also the problem may need to be handled some other way once and for all. Heaven forbid (using Dales terminology) the problem is cured once and for all without the gb instead of bandaiding the problem for a lifetime of drinking oil and avoiding the pleasures of unbridled eating. Individual conditions need to be considered here. The flusher should definietly learn what is truly the problem with their body and take the correct steps to fix the problem weither it be more flushing or removal of the gb. Thanks for the post. Barry. > Agnes; > > I love this post from the CureZone. Now this just goes to show that there > are methods of showing the stones are factually cholesterol based. It would > be pretty interesting if Barry could get part of his stone tested in this > manner. > > I don't think a person could feel the fullness of the gallbladder like one > would a stomach. So, I would imagine that their feeling is more pychosymatic > even though it could be quite real as a matter of fact of which would need > to be done by an MRI, ultrasound, or, heaven forbid, a gallbladder removal > to prove that there are stones filling that void. > > Dale > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: 3rd flush results > From: < no email > > Date: Today 00:26 May 31 2002 > > > > Hi everyone, > > Just to fill you in. My first flush produced 1000's of stones. I felt great > afterwards - all of my allergies disappeared and constipation and gas was > better than it had been in years. Also my shoulder pain went away > overnight. After 3 weeks I was getting all of these problems back. I > flushed again and this time produced 20 or so large stones and a couple of > 100 smaller ones. Again symptoms disappeared. I saved some of the stones > and finally got around to testing them in a UV spectrophotometer. This is > not a definative test however I did see a major peak at 450 nm where > cholesterol absorbs. I'm relatively sure that bile salts don't absorb in > this region (although I can't be certain without a sample of bile salts). > The control sample was gratefruit juice, olive oil and epsom salts and I > didn't see a peak at 450. To the none scientists out there this is almost > proof that these are gallstones. Just one more test to do and I will try > and do that soon. It has now been 3 weeks since my last flush and my > gallbladder feel full and my symptoms are back. I will flush this weekend. > Does anyone know if it's typical to feel full with these things, because I > don't think it's my imagination. > Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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