Re: Re:raw foods-Alkaline Ph

September 6, 2010

The 'China Study' keeps popping up from time to time and the Moderators allow a

certain amount of dialogue on the subject because there are always new people on

the list.

The consensus is, there is no consensus and that is after scores of posts the

last time the subject made its way around.

The words " better " and " best " way to do anything are not interchangeable and can

never be absolute in every situation.

The fact is, nothing works for everyone all the time and if a person was eating

a reasonably good diet, how much change could they make to make a difference as

regards battling cancer.

We have the Raw Meat and the Vegetarian proponents on this list along side of

those that mix it up. There are some that totally believe that an alkaline Ph

condition in the body is all that one needs just as there are some that believe

all that is needed is LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) and proponents of the Budwig

Diet who at least do not say " this is the only way to cure cancer " . Cancer is

too complex and one cannot state the cause of anyone's cancer and be 100%

correct.

There are probably a number of things we do or are exposed to that have a causal

relationship but to be the 'one thing' that caused it? For example, charcoal

burned meat (Barbecue) has shown a causal relationship to stomach cancer but not

everyone that barbecues gets cancer. There is strong evidence that chlorine

from Indoor pools, Showers, and outdoor pools have a causal relationship with

bladder cancer..........but lots more people take showers and swim in

chlorinated pools than get Bladder Cancer. Too bad for the Urologists but good

for the masses.

None of what is read here means do not eat wholesome and more natural food. Of

course a 'good' diet is 'better' but it is only a part of the subject, not the

only part. As for " losing the battle " trying to keep Alkaline? Just keep

working at it, the real battle is the cancer. Try adding a couple of glasses

of Lemon Juice to the daily regimen. Upon rising. Take the first glass and

then find time during the day for another.............maybe another after that.

Joe C.

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September 8, 2010

Hi ,

I have a lot of digestive issues as well, so I can understand your frustration.

First, the reason why cooked foods digest easier than raw foods is because when

cooked, a lot of the hard to digest fiber is broken down into an easier, more

assimilable form that a " sick " body can deal with. Also, when the digestive

system is compromised, large, undigested particles of food " leak " (leaky gut

syndrome) through areas of the small intestine and into the blood stream. Once

in the blood stream, the immune system mounts an all-out-attack to destroy the

foreign invader (allergies). Another problem also occurs when larger particles

of undigested food that don't " leak " through the small intestine, but travel

further down to the large intestine, the undigested particles end up putrefying

and fermenting which produces toxins that keep feeding the cycle of IBS and

other digestive issues.

I have been looking into a diet called Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) and

have been part of a forum with many people claiming to have healed their gut.

Also, I have been reading a book called Fiber Menace and in this book the author

talks about fiber's role in diet failure. I feel he's on the right track

considering the great numbers of people in America with digestive problems.

Every day, whether it be from your doctor, the media etc. you hear, more fiber,

more fiber, gotta have more fiber. I know fiber is a big part of my digestive

issues, but I am dealing with chronic constipation and I am currently taking

herbal laxatives just to be able to go. I am not sure how I will juggle getting

off laxatives, eating less fiber, healing my gut, and resolving my constipation

issues.

The GAPS diet is also in book form and is a low-fiber diet. Another website I

would go to for information on diet and cancer would be www.westonaprice.org.

There you can archive a resent article on diet and cancer by Dr. Tom Cowan. One

more thing, nut and seeds are very difficult for most people to digest,

particularly when they are not properly prepared.

Susie

[ ] Re:raw foods-Alkaline Ph

I recently had to go off raw foods after nearly 3 years trying to follow the

Budwig diet and eat a large raw fruit salad for lunch and green salad for

dinner. I have had IBS problems for 20 years and one year into the Budwig diet

they got much worse. Since I had previously had allergic reactions to Flaxseed

but felt I was OK with the oil, I decided I was not OK with it and dropped it,

and have been trying to deal with the worsened gut problems since. I have slowly

been working out that I react to all nuts and oil seeds, and eliminated them,

but something was still really causing terrible gut problems, and I determined I

did better on only cooked foods. So much for the raw food for me. This time I am

staying off of them indefinitely to see if I can improve. I'm also trying to do

herbs that are supposed to help IBS, and also hypertension, which is also a

problem. People on the colitis crohn's group say food allergies can trigger bad

reactions in the intestines, I suppose it's like hay fever where the trigger

causes itching of the eyes, throat, runny congested nose, etc. but symptoms in

the gut like diarrhea, constipation, mucus, etc. I can't understand why the raw

foods would cause problems but the same foods cooked do not. Any ideas?

September 8, 2010

..if you haven't already invest in enzymes and yogurt halped my gut and so

I make smoothies out of fresh fruit an plain yogurt no sugar!

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[ ] Re:raw foods-Alkaline Ph

I recently had to go off raw foods after nearly 3 years trying to follow the

Budwig diet and eat a large raw fruit salad for lunch and green salad for

dinner. I have had IBS problems for 20 years and one year into the Budwig diet

they got much worse. Since I had previously had allergic reactions to Flaxseed

but felt I was OK with the oil, I decided I was not OK with it and dropped it,

and have been trying to deal with the worsened gut problems since. I have

slowly been working out that I react to all nuts and oil seeds, and eliminated

them, but something was still really causing terrible gut problems, and I

determined I did better on only cooked foods. So much for the raw food for me.

This time I am staying off of them indefinitely to see if I can improve. I'm

also trying to do herbs that are supposed to help IBS, and also hypertension,

which is also a problem. People on the colitis crohn's group say food allergies

can trigger bad reactions in the intestines, I suppose it's like hay fever where

the trigger causes itching of the eyes, throat, runny congested nose, etc. but

symptoms in the gut like diarrhea, constipation, mucus, etc. I can't understand

why the raw foods would cause problems but the same foods cooked do not. Any

ideas?

------------------------------------

September 8, 2010

I think you have to clense and add probiotics for a time . And then enzymes. For

sure .

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[ ] Re:raw foods-Alkaline Ph

Hi Susie,

This is really interesting information. Oddly enough, my switch to a raw food

veg diet cured my IBS and other digestive problems. I don't know if I have

leaky gut, but I know that I am so much better now than I was when I was eating

more cooked food and meat. I have digestive problems when I don't eat enough

raw foods.

ar

>

> Hi ,

>

> I have a lot of digestive issues as well, so I can understand your

frustration. First, the reason why cooked foods digest easier than raw foods is

because when cooked, a lot of the hard to digest fiber is broken down into an

easier, more assimilable form that a " sick " body can deal with. Also, when the

digestive system is compromised, large, undigested particles of food " leak "

(leaky gut syndrome) through areas of the small intestine and into the blood

stream. Once in the blood stream, the immune system mounts an all-out-attack to

destroy the foreign invader (allergies). Another problem also occurs when

larger particles of undigested food that don't " leak " through the small

intestine, but travel further down to the large intestine, the undigested

particles end up putrefying and fermenting which produces toxins that keep

feeding the cycle of IBS and other digestive issues.

>

> I have been looking into a diet called Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) and