Re: pralt-discuss Re: I'm here @ Klinik St. Georg -- Germany

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There is an old saying here in America. It is, " You can lead a horse to

water, but you can't make him drink. "

I am more of a scholar of the road, than from the schools. I learn mostly

from people who know more than me and have done more research than me. I

guess I'm a little... well, maybe lazy, but I prefer to call it more

efficient.

One great lesson in life I learned was about 25 years ago when I was

become certified as a SCUBA diver. We talked about various effects of being

deep underwater, nitrogen narcosis and other things that can effect your mind

when you are under pressure and thing happen. We talked about what do you

do when your dive " buddy " starts going to deep where it is putting him in

danger of loosing his life. My dive master said you do what you can to get

his attention and to give a signal that it's time to surface. I asked when

to you go after him and try to save him? His response was somewhat vague

but the answer was in his eyes. He didn't have to say anymore. The answer

was evident. You have to gauge when you are putting yourself at risk and

there might be times when you are just forced to watch your " buddy " go to

deep that the nitrogen in his brain takes over his senses and he can't

reason and eventually dies. Jacques Cousteau called in " rapture of the

deep. "

It's like being very high and euphoric . I've felt it and if you like

being high...this is a great feeling. And would be an easy one to overtake

you.

I liken that to this. You try to give people the benefit of what you have

learned, where you have gotten your information, tell some true success

stories you have heard from others, then let them choose their own course.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me, as well as Tony and Nicholes,

and others. Maybe someday we can drink a bier together on the streets of

Bad Aibling.

Danke schon,

Bob

In a message dated 9/2/2009 3:51:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ajrichardson@... writes:

Well done Bob and keep us all posted as to how it goes.

I am copying everyone into an email I sent to a friend recently when he

was booked in to have his prostate removed. He has a gleason 6, psa of abou6

and the clown was going to rip out his prostate!! I hear this story often

and it is amazing how many guys still listen to the uro after reading all the

reseach I place in front of them and still lie down for the cut. The power

of fear is relentless.

There are some great links here with all the recent research and

everything points to the complete failure in the medical system to deal with

PC.

Best to all,

J

[Guest guest]

Great Bob,

When I get caught up, I'm going to send out a couple more emails. One on

our experience of traveling here, and it's been exciting. I just turned 59

and I wanted to do it as a couple of college kids doing the European

vacation thing. We had a great flight from Charlotte, NC to Munich then 3

train

rides from Munich to Bad Aibling, then got off the train with backpacks on

our backs and walked to the Klinik. It was only about 6 or 8 blocks. We

arrived at the Klinik at about 12:30 or 1:00 PM on a Sunday and walked

around the halls until someone asked us if they could help us. It was all

down hill from there.

It's being a great trip.

More details of the travel experience and the procedures in a day or so.

Bob

bobruddock@... writes:

It just so happens i have just confirmed my appointment for the end of the

month with the same clinic and will be happy to share my experience's with

you all. My thoughts and positive vibes go out to you bob and every one

else working the alternative protocol. [i look forward to your feedback Bob

and can`t wait to compare notes.]

Kind Regards

Bob R [uk]