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What will be the best approach to fight cancer after this new theory ?

New studies explain how cancer cells `eat us alive'

September 1, 2010

Four key studies now propose a new theory about how cancer cells grow and

survive, allowing researchers to design better diagnostics and therapies to

target high-risk cancer patients. These studies were conducted by a large team

of researchers at Jefferson University's Kimmel Cancer Center.

This new idea also explains why so many cancer patients say that " their cancer

is eating them alive " – an accurate observation that has never been understood,

the researchers say.

These four new studies, co-published in the September issue of the journal Cell

Cycle, provide evidence that tumor growth and metastasis is directly " fueled " by

normal supporting cells.

These supporting cells are called fibroblasts, and they produce the stroma

(connective tissue) that surrounds tumor cells. As the cancer progresses,

increasing numbers of these stromal cells eat themselves to provide recycled

nutrients to tumor cells – leading to dramatic weight loss in patients.

They also found that without recycled nutrients provided by fibroblasts, tumor

cells are more fragile and die. Based on this breakthrough, the researchers

propose that available drugs (now on the market), which sever the " parasitic "

connection between tumor cells and fibroblasts, may be effective therapeutics.

" We think we have finally figured out how cancer really works – and this

reverses 85 years of DOGMA, upon which current cancer research and therapy is

based, " says the study's senior investigator, P. nti, M.D., Ph.D.,

Chairman of Jefferson's Department of Stem Cell Biology & Regenerative Medicine.

The prevailing theory, known as the Warburg Effect, developed by German

researcher Otto Warburg in 1924 (for which he won a Nobel prize), says that

tumor cells change their metabolism in order to fuel their own growth. As

evidence, Warburg pointed to a lack of mitochondria, which are tiny " power

plants, " in laboratory cancer cells, saying these cells have found another way

to produce the energy they need.

Pestell, MB, BS, MD, Ph.D, FRACP, director of the Kimmel Cancer Center

and co-author on these studies notes, " These studies suggest that the absence of

mitochondria in laboratory cancer cells may reflect in part that cultured cells

have had to adjust to life outside of their original environment, without their

stromal partner. " Drs. nti, Pestell and colleagues found this out by

performing a simple experiment in which they mixed cancer cells and fibroblasts

together, and then searched for mitochondria. The found the fibroblasts didn't

have any mitochondria, and that the cancer cells had all the mitochondria.

" The Warburg Effect is happening, but it is happening to fibroblasts, not to

cancer cells. Fibroblasts have no mitochondria because they are eating them to

provide energy to cancer cells, and cancer cells have a ton of mitochondria

because they need these power plants to process all the recycled nutrients given

to them by fibroblasts, which then helps them grow and spread, " Dr. nti

says.

They have dubbed this finding " The Reverse Warburg Effect. "

" It's amazing, " Dr. nti says. " Much of what we know about cancer is

backwards because cancer researchers used isolated tumor cells for most cancer

studies. Now, when we put cancer cells back in their stromal environment, we see

how cancer cells critically depend on fibroblasts for their survival. "

Tumor cells do this by employing oxidative stress as a weapon. Then, oxidative

stress in fibroblasts " tricks " these stromal cells into eating themselves to

feed cancer cells, the researchers say. This process of " self-eating " or

" self-cannibalism " is called autophagy.

During periods of starvation, normal cells undergo autophagy. This metabolic

re-programming allows cells to recycle nutrients by continually eating

themselves, including their mitochondria. This permits starving cells to recycle

nutrients and to survive under hostile conditions.

Now, Dr. nti and colleagues have figured out how cancer cells take advantage

of this recycling process. To satisfy their large appetite, hungry cancer cells

induce OXIDATIVE STRESS in the fibroblasts and this stress forces the stromal

cells to eat themselves, which provides recycled nutrients or " food " to fuel

survival of nearby cancer cells.

" It's that simple. Cancer cells are eating us alive by stealing nutrients from

normal cells using oxidative stress, and by employing those recycled nutrients

to support their own growth. Stem cells are then recruited from the bone marrow

to produce fresh fibroblasts, to continually fuel cancer cell growth, " Dr.

nti says. " For years, cancer patients have said they felt as though the

cancer in their body was eating them alive. These patients were right.

Essentially, the cancer knows how to induce oxidative stress and turns a local

wasting process into a whole-body phenomenon. "

To read the full article, click on this link:

http://www.physorg.com/news20255364 3.html

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One has to ask, exactly how new is this 'theory' and theory it is. I am not

going to change what I think is working for me because of yet another theory...

and Otto's name is often thrown about and here is what he received his notable

Nobel for in 1931:

" His later researches at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute have led to the discovery

that the flavins and the nicotinamide were the active groups of the

hydrogen-transferring enzymes. This, together with the iron-oxygenase discovered

earlier, has given a complete account of the oxidations and reductions in the

living world. For his discovery of the nature and mode of action of the

respiratory enzyme, the Nobel Prize has been awarded to him in 1931. This

discovery has opened up new ways in the fields of cellular metabolism and

cellular respiration. He has shown, among other things, that cancerous cells can

live and develop, even in the absence of oxygen. "

Joe C.

From: shaman_urban

Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:51 PM

Subject: [ ] Four key studies now propose a new theory .. but how

should we behave?

How how should we behave?

What will be the best approach to fight cancer after this new theory ?

New studies explain how cancer cells `eat us alive'

September 1, 2010

Four key studies now propose a new theory about how cancer cells grow and

survive, allowing researchers to design better diagnostics and therapies to

target high-risk cancer patients. These studies were conducted by a large team

of researchers at Jefferson University's Kimmel Cancer Center.

This new idea also explains why so many cancer patients say that " their cancer

is eating them alive " - an accurate observation that has never been understood,

the researchers say.

These four new studies, co-published in the September issue of the journal Cell

Cycle, provide evidence that tumor growth and metastasis is directly " fueled " by

normal supporting cells.

These supporting cells are called fibroblasts, and they produce the stroma

(connective tissue) that surrounds tumor cells. As the cancer progresses,

increasing numbers of these stromal cells eat themselves to provide recycled

nutrients to tumor cells - leading to dramatic weight loss in patients.

They also found that without recycled nutrients provided by fibroblasts, tumor

cells are more fragile and die. Based on this breakthrough, the researchers

propose that available drugs (now on the market), which sever the " parasitic "

connection between tumor cells and fibroblasts, may be effective therapeutics.

" We think we have finally figured out how cancer really works - and this

reverses 85 years of DOGMA, upon which current cancer research and therapy is

based, " says the study's senior investigator, P. nti, M.D., Ph.D.,

Chairman of Jefferson's Department of Stem Cell Biology & Regenerative Medicine.

The prevailing theory, known as the Warburg Effect, developed by German

researcher Otto Warburg in 1924 (for which he won a Nobel prize), says that

tumor cells change their metabolism in order to fuel their own growth. As

evidence, Warburg pointed to a lack of mitochondria, which are tiny " power

plants, " in laboratory cancer cells, saying these cells have found another way

to produce the energy they need.

Pestell, MB, BS, MD, Ph.D, FRACP, director of the Kimmel Cancer Center

and co-author on these studies notes, " These studies suggest that the absence of

mitochondria in laboratory cancer cells may reflect in part that cultured cells

have had to adjust to life outside of their original environment, without their

stromal partner. " Drs. nti, Pestell and colleagues found this out by

performing a simple experiment in which they mixed cancer cells and fibroblasts

together, and then searched for mitochondria. The found the fibroblasts didn't

have any mitochondria, and that the cancer cells had all the mitochondria.

" The Warburg Effect is happening, but it is happening to fibroblasts, not to

cancer cells. Fibroblasts have no mitochondria because they are eating them to

provide energy to cancer cells, and cancer cells have a ton of mitochondria

because they need these power plants to process all the recycled nutrients given

to them by fibroblasts, which then helps them grow and spread, " Dr. nti

says.

They have dubbed this finding " The Reverse Warburg Effect. "

" It's amazing, " Dr. nti says. " Much of what we know about cancer is

backwards because cancer researchers used isolated tumor cells for most cancer

studies. Now, when we put cancer cells back in their stromal environment, we see

how cancer cells critically depend on fibroblasts for their survival. "

Tumor cells do this by employing oxidative stress as a weapon. Then, oxidative

stress in fibroblasts " tricks " these stromal cells into eating themselves to

feed cancer cells, the researchers say. This process of " self-eating " or

" self-cannibalism " is called autophagy.

During periods of starvation, normal cells undergo autophagy. This metabolic

re-programming allows cells to recycle nutrients by continually eating

themselves, including their mitochondria. This permits starving cells to recycle

nutrients and to survive under hostile conditions.

Now, Dr. nti and colleagues have figured out how cancer cells take advantage

of this recycling process. To satisfy their large appetite, hungry cancer cells

induce OXIDATIVE STRESS in the fibroblasts and this stress forces the stromal

cells to eat themselves, which provides recycled nutrients or " food " to fuel

survival of nearby cancer cells.

" It's that simple. Cancer cells are eating us alive by stealing nutrients from

normal cells using oxidative stress, and by employing those recycled nutrients

to support their own growth. Stem cells are then recruited from the bone marrow

to produce fresh fibroblasts, to continually fuel cancer cell growth, " Dr.

nti says. " For years, cancer patients have said they felt as though the

cancer in their body was eating them alive. These patients were right.

Essentially, the cancer knows how to induce oxidative stress and turns a local

wasting process into a whole-body phenomenon. "

To read the full article, click on this link:

http://www.physorg.com/news20255364 3.html

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I wonder what are these drugs that break that " parasitic " connection? Are the

the typical anti-parasitics? I'm facing this very thing right now. I'm 5 " 6 "

with a medium build and I'm down to 120 with no appetite. I need these drugs

right now! :)

xoo

" shaman_urban " <shaman_urban@...> wrote:

>

> How how should we behave?

> What will be the best approach to fight cancer after this new theory ?

>

------------------------------------

>

> New studies explain how cancer cells `eat us alive'

>

> September 1, 2010

>

> ........[Excerpt]....

> These four new studies, co-published in the September issue of the journal

Cell Cycle, provide evidence that tumor growth and metastasis is directly

" fueled " by normal supporting cells.

>

> These supporting cells are called fibroblasts, and they produce the stroma

(connective tissue) that surrounds tumor cells. As the cancer progresses,

increasing numbers of these stromal cells eat themselves to provide recycled

nutrients to tumor cells – leading to dramatic weight loss in patients.

>

> They also found that without recycled nutrients provided by fibroblasts, tumor

cells are more fragile and die. Based on this breakthrough, the researchers

propose that available drugs (now on the market), which sever the " parasitic "

connection between tumor cells and fibroblasts, may be effective

therapeutics.....

>

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Great new theory. Sounds very logical. So how do you stop the cancer from

eating you up alive? The study, as I see it explains the problem very

clearly but does anyone have the answer as to how to avoid it?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:51 PM, shaman_urban <shaman_urban@...>wrote:

>

>

> How how should we behave?

> What will be the best approach to fight cancer after this new theory ?

>

> New studies explain how cancer cells `eat us alive'

>

> September 1, 2010

>

> Four key studies now propose a new theory about how cancer cells grow and

> survive, allowing researchers to design better diagnostics and therapies to

> target high-risk cancer patients. These studies were conducted by a large

> team of researchers at Jefferson University's Kimmel Cancer Center.

>

> This new idea also explains why so many cancer patients say that " their

> cancer is eating them alive " – an accurate observation that has never been

> understood, the researchers say.

>

> These four new studies, co-published in the September issue of the journal

> Cell Cycle, provide evidence that tumor growth and metastasis is directly

> " fueled " by normal supporting cells.

>

> These supporting cells are called fibroblasts, and they produce the stroma

> (connective tissue) that surrounds tumor cells. As the cancer progresses,

> increasing numbers of these stromal cells eat themselves to provide recycled

> nutrients to tumor cells – leading to dramatic weight loss in patients.

>

> They also found that without recycled nutrients provided by fibroblasts,

> tumor cells are more fragile and die. Based on this breakthrough, the

> researchers propose that available drugs (now on the market), which sever

> the " parasitic " connection between tumor cells and fibroblasts, may be

> effective therapeutics.

>

> " We think we have finally figured out how cancer really works – and this

> reverses 85 years of DOGMA, upon which current cancer research and therapy

> is based, " says the study's senior investigator, P. nti, M.D.,

> Ph.D., Chairman of Jefferson's Department of Stem Cell Biology &

> Regenerative Medicine.

>

> The prevailing theory, known as the Warburg Effect, developed by German

> researcher Otto Warburg in 1924 (for which he won a Nobel prize), says that

> tumor cells change their metabolism in order to fuel their own growth. As

> evidence, Warburg pointed to a lack of mitochondria, which are tiny " power

> plants, " in laboratory cancer cells, saying these cells have found another

> way to produce the energy they need.

>

> Pestell, MB, BS, MD, Ph.D, FRACP, director of the Kimmel Cancer

> Center and co-author on these studies notes, " These studies suggest that the

> absence of mitochondria in laboratory cancer cells may reflect in part that

> cultured cells have had to adjust to life outside of their original

> environment, without their stromal partner. " Drs. nti, Pestell and

> colleagues found this out by performing a simple experiment in which they

> mixed cancer cells and fibroblasts together, and then searched for

> mitochondria. The found the fibroblasts didn't have any mitochondria, and

> that the cancer cells had all the mitochondria.

>

> " The Warburg Effect is happening, but it is happening to fibroblasts, not

> to cancer cells. Fibroblasts have no mitochondria because they are eating

> them to provide energy to cancer cells, and cancer cells have a ton of

> mitochondria because they need these power plants to process all the

> recycled nutrients given to them by fibroblasts, which then helps them grow

> and spread, " Dr. nti says.

>

> They have dubbed this finding " The Reverse Warburg Effect. "

>

> " It's amazing, " Dr. nti says. " Much of what we know about cancer is

> backwards because cancer researchers used isolated tumor cells for most

> cancer studies. Now, when we put cancer cells back in their stromal

> environment, we see how cancer cells critically depend on fibroblasts for

> their survival. "

>

> Tumor cells do this by employing oxidative stress as a weapon. Then,

> oxidative stress in fibroblasts " tricks " these stromal cells into eating

> themselves to feed cancer cells, the researchers say. This process of

> " self-eating " or " self-cannibalism " is called autophagy.

>

> During periods of starvation, normal cells undergo autophagy. This

> metabolic re-programming allows cells to recycle nutrients by continually

> eating themselves, including their mitochondria. This permits starving cells

> to recycle nutrients and to survive under hostile conditions.

>

> Now, Dr. nti and colleagues have figured out how cancer cells take

> advantage of this recycling process. To satisfy their large appetite, hungry

> cancer cells induce OXIDATIVE STRESS in the fibroblasts and this stress

> forces the stromal cells to eat themselves, which provides recycled

> nutrients or " food " to fuel survival of nearby cancer cells.

>

> " It's that simple. Cancer cells are eating us alive by stealing nutrients

> from normal cells using oxidative stress, and by employing those recycled

> nutrients to support their own growth. Stem cells are then recruited from

> the bone marrow to produce fresh fibroblasts, to continually fuel cancer

> cell growth, " Dr. nti says. " For years, cancer patients have said they

> felt as though the cancer in their body was eating them alive. These

> patients were right. Essentially, the cancer knows how to induce oxidative

> stress and turns a local wasting process into a whole-body phenomenon. "

>

> To read the full article, click on this link:

> http://www.physorg.com/news20255364 3.html

>

>

>

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I read something about hematoxylin and dmso in the book about Dr. s the

" Father " of DMSO. Hematoxylin is a natural dye. Mixed with dmso it will target

cancer cells, these cancer cells will then be isolated from normal cells. The

books gives a method to make the brew yourself. It seems to be important to

check kidney function. I do not have the book here, otherwise I could give you

the correct title and page where to read it.

Jan P.

Ho Chi Minh

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From: nili gitig

Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010

Great new theory. Sounds very logical. So how do you stop the cancer from

eating you up alive? The study, as I see it explains the problem very clearly

but does anyone have the answer as to how to avoid it?

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