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I understand about toxins icollecting in the liver, but the heart, too? I lack

info on that; do you have any-or anyone else, please?

Adrienne

Whoohoo!

I just had my first quart of raw goat's milk delivered to my door. Very

yummy!

And it only took how long since Carol posted Cheney's advice to use raw

foods? Since I do not limit my thinking to the rational kind, I sense that the

ease with which I obtained this is a sign I am on the right track.

I am on the trail now of hearts from young animals. Probably goats, too.

Growth factors ahead.

Adrienne

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> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:26:58 -0600

> From: " Adrienne " <duckblossm@...>

> Subject: Re: Raw Foods

>

> I understand about toxins icollecting in the liver, but the heart, too? I lack

> info on that; do you have any-or anyone else, please?

> Adrienne

Hi Adrienne,

Lyme's borrelias love heart muscles :-(

I used to be very fond of raw meat (steak tartare, carpaccio) and stopped to

eat it after discovering that borrelias, ehrlichias, and babesias were in

rise among cattle, according to veterinarians in my country. I'm afraid it

could be even worse with wild animals, since nobody checks them for

parasites.

That would be my main concern about eating raw heart. Cut in slices and

fried in a frying pan, it's a delicious meat, very tender. But you need to

eat it raw, don't you?

Sylvie

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Hello, , since I'm just down the coast from you (I think - Paso

Robles territory), I'm wondering if you currently have a resource for

your Saanan goat milk?

Thank you!

> Adrienne: Raw foods seem to be recommended a lot and that

certainly eliminates the processing and additives that so many of us

react to. I have grown to enjoy goat's milk~the Saanan (sp?) goats

have the nicest milk with very mild flavor and we used to make yogurt

and ice cream out of it and guest could never taste the difference.

>

> One thought on eating the heart (I presume you are talking about

the meat)~when a cat catches a gopher, it eats only certain parts of

it, always leaving the kidney, heart and liver on the sidewalk. When

my parents use to butcher a deer, the heart and liver were the first

thing they cooked for us to eat, but do we want the toxins that are

collected in these organs for our food? Just a thought.

>

> in La Sleva Beach CA

> Whoohoo!

>

>

> I just had my first quart of raw goat's milk delivered to my

door. Very yummy!

> And it only took how long since Carol posted Cheney's advice to

use raw foods? Since I do not limit my thinking to the rational kind,

I sense that the ease with which I obtained this is a sign I am on

the right track.

> I am on the trail now of hearts from young animals. Probably

goats, too. Growth factors ahead.

> Adrienne

>

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: I do not have a source anymore~used to get this in Sacramento and it

was so good. I now buy at the store Meyenberg in quarts and it lasts a long

time without going bad, but of course it is pasturized. There should be some

people in your area~ask at the local 4-H programs or the County Farm Programs

and get some referrals. Best wishes for success.

Whoohoo!

>

>

> I just had my first quart of raw goat's milk delivered to my

door. Very yummy!

> And it only took how long since Carol posted Cheney's advice to

use raw foods? Since I do not limit my thinking to the rational kind,

I sense that the ease with which I obtained this is a sign I am on

the right track.

> I am on the trail now of hearts from young animals. Probably

goats, too. Growth factors ahead.

> Adrienne

>

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> Has any body heard of raw foodisim. Well I ate every

> thing raw for 30

> day a few years back and never felt better I wish I never

> stoped,anyway here are some sites to check out.

>livingrawfoods.com and

> rawandjuicy.com I am going to start on that agin. Thanks and good

> health to all! Steph

Raw vegetables, especially organic, can be good sources of natural

iodine, not super high iodine like Lugols and seaweeds, but

cumulatively adequate to meet the MDR. Most people don't eat

enough vegetables today, by far.

You can go radically raw, or just a target percentage of diet. I

try to eat a high percentage (50-75%) of raw veg and fruits in warm

weather. The warmer the weather the more raw. I eat very little

raw in cold weather, prefer steamed or sauteed vegetables,

and root vegetables in cold weather, which goes along with

traditional Chinese philosophy (they avoid cold foods

altogether as harmful to TCM " kidney " , and cold foods do

inhibit enzymes which damages digestion and leaves residues of

undigested food for the body to deal with).

Room-temperature RAW combines well with PALEO diet in

with lots of raw veg and fruits, lean meats/fish/eggs, nuts.

Ideal for salads and grilling in the summertime. This can be

an ideal diet for low thyroid people who do better on low carb.

Paleo resource: http://www.paleodiet.com

My articles* " Simple Juice Recipes " and " Spring Liver Cleanse " .

Carol

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Steph,

Yes, I believe in eating raw. I do it about 75% - the other 25% is cooked. I become too thin on 100% raw. I do have about 3 oz. of fish or lean meat(cooked) with the evening meal. I did the raw diet two or three years ago strictly - no meat or dairy. Like you, I felt 100% better. I also use sprouted grains (mostly Ezekiel bread & cereal). Good luck and let me know your results.

Irene

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Has any body heard of raw foodisim. Well I ate every thing raw for 30 day a few years back and never felt better I wish I never stoped,anyway here are some sites to check out. livingrawfoods.com and rawandjuicy.com I am going to start on that agin. Thanks and good health to all! Steph

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I'm currently eating only raw and feeling very good. This is about my

fifth or sixth time doing this. One day I hope to remain on raw food

forever. Not the easiest thing in a northern climate with a family

who likes to eat cooked food! I may add some cooked soups, brown

rice, millet and steamed veggies in after a while although that does

kind of defeat the purpose. I'd love to have more of a support

system, like friends who eat raw.

I just discovered Lara Bars which are a great raw snack. Would love

to exchange ideas or recipes if you want. Email me off-group if you like.

Sharon

>

> Has any body heard of raw foodisim. Well I ate every thing raw for 30

> day a few years back and never felt better I wish I never

> stoped,anyway here are some sites to check out. livingrawfoods.com and

> rawandjuicy.com I am going to start on that agin. Thanks and good

> health to all! Steph

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Guess the old saying.."YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT " is beginning to make

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I can't get enough protein on a raw food diet.  But, would love to have some new

recipes!  Maureen

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For a totally different way to get your Type O " raw " have a look at

the Primal Diet, promoted by Aajonus Vonderplanitz, which consists

primarily of raw animal foods. This would have seemed totally

outlandish to me if I hadn't already enjoyed foods like ceviche and

sushi and smoked salmon. In fact, per Sally Fallon (author of

Nourishing Traditions, head of the Weston A Price foundation), raw

animal foods have been a part of pretty much every civilization, from

gravlax to ceviche (fish marinated in lime to kill the parasites, but

uncooked), steak tartare, and I think old forms of kibbe.

After trying to find the info I wanted about the Primal Diet online,

(and failing to get enough details), I sprung for Aajonus

Vonderplanitz's two books: " We Want to Live " and " The Recipe for

Living Without Disease. " He had tons of health problems when he was

young, and stopped his lymphocytic leukemia from progressing on a raw

vegan protocol involving carrot juice (that's the only detail I know

about his vegan phase), but only got rid of the cancer completely by

eating raw animal foods: raw butter, raw meat, raw fish, raw (get

ready for it) CHICKEN, raw butter, etc. Other foods are useful, per

Aajonus, depending on what is going on with you. As odd as it sounds,

there has to be something in a system that has allowed a man who had

so many health problems before eating this way to have achieved so

much well being after eating raw animal foods for some 35 years. (He

takes a very different view of the role that bacteria, viruses and

parasites play in the body, one that I have seen before from

health-minded people I admire). Apparently, eating protein raw makes

it more bioavailable than when cooked. Sally Fallon is inclined to be

more moderate in her approach, and suggests including some raw meat

dishes in the diet (vs an all-raw diet) making sure the meat is

frozen for two weeks (per USDA recommendations) to kill parasites OR

to use an effective marinade, as with ceviche. Aajonus found that a

moderate approach wasn't enough to resolve his health problems, and a

full-on approach worked better.

Basically, he became a student of his own body, and did what he needed

to do to achieve and maintain amazing health in spite of challenges,

and to help others do the same.

I have looked and haven't, yet, found anyone else who has written a

book on this topic.

Interesting fact from Dr. Cousins, M.D. (who has helped cure

people of many diseases, including diabetes, with a raw vegan diet):

only about 20% of people have what it takes to manufacture their own

vitamin B-12. Those who want to do raw vegan need to consider this

and take a B-12 supplement. From blindguru.com, and a little more

hunting, I found that there are some probiotic supplements (hard to

find) that provide the microbes that help with the B-12 problem, and

help suppress candida as well. I think the most accessible one is

from Donna Gates at www.bodyecologydiet.com. Grainfields has one,

too, but the specific one I want from them is a wee bit too expensive

to ship from Australia. So if you want to go raw vegan, look at the

B-12 situation.

Anyway, there IS a way to eat raw on a type O diet! If I have any

caveat it would be this: if you are toxic from years of eating a diet

that clogs you, adding bacteria, viruses and parasites may create more

unpleasant symptoms than you might like as they clean up damaged,

unhealthy tissue from your body. Similar to a raw vegan diet, there

are periods when the body goes into deeper detox processes, which are

what many alternative health folks consider ALL illnesses to be.

Laure

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thanks Laure for the raw info ! ... I do a bit of sushi... but don't get

much energy from it, prob. due to the rice-combo that's not a good food

combination. Raw chicken is not happening for me... can do rare organic beef

though. I am seeing more energy and more of an overall wellness feeling when

I

drink green smoothies! I'm out of leafy greens right now... and am missing

them!! and the snow is covering all my dandelions and parsley !!!

Learning more about the nutrients in the weeds in my yard and am experimenting

with

mallow and purslane... there are some interesting greens to be found in

the pacific nw !

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> Dear bee

> The diet with eating fish eggs and chicken has had me really constipated in

the past, I find that eating all raw vegetables with allot of salads fresh

ginger onion garlic, vegetable juices for breakfast and raw soups and coconut

oil 3x a day has made me feel better than eating cooked food. I have heard many

different' theory's of that raw food diet and battling Candida, I just want to

know what your opinion was.

>

+++Hi Autumn. Our bodies are not capable of breaking down the cell walls of

veggies, yet when you cook them enough it breaks down cell walls so the

nutrients are more available and they are easier to digest.

Uncooked veggies are very hard on digestion and cause a lot of bulky stools,

which aren't healthy. In fact the whole Fiber Theory is totally false - see

this: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu3_2_2.php

Also see these articles on carbs:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu3_2_1.php

The reason you got constipated before is because you were not consuming enough

" good " fats, which slows digestion, allowing enough time for nutrients to be

pulled from foods, and fats also help pull nutrients from foods. Good fats also

strengthen the lining of the intestines.

Bee

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----- Forwarded Message ----From: Mari Hail <sunbubble410@...>lowdosenaltraxone Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 6:08:49 AMSubject: raw foods

Has anyone heard about the Raw Foods Diet stopping all MS symptoms? Is anyone here who has MS using the Raw Foods Diet? I read an article in a Women's First mag that had an interview with a MS patient who said ALL her symptoms disappeared after starting a raw foods diet. I am really interested in anyone's experience. I was thinking that maybe it's just eating organic that actually helped her. Thanks..Mari Hail

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Yes, I have been on 70-90% raw food diet since oct,2008. I have improved by 10%. However, I don't think raw food alone can cure MS. MS is caused by mycoplasam + other pathogens. Thus, we need a strong killing protocol on top of raw food diet..

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----- Forwarded Message ----From: Mari Hail <sunbubble410>lowdosenaltraxoneSent: Friday, August 21, 2009 6:08:49 AMSubject: raw foods

Has anyone heard about the Raw Foods Diet stopping all MS symptoms? Is anyone here who has MS using the Raw Foods Diet? I read an article in a Women's First mag that had an interview with a MS patient who said ALL her symptoms disappeared after starting a raw foods diet. I am really interested in anyone's experience. I was thinking that maybe it's just eating organic that actually helped her. Thanks..Mari Hail

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The same thing happened to a guy with Ulcerative Colitis. All his symptoms

disappeared and haven't come back in years. So there is something to it.

However rather than going on a raw food diet I would take ALCAT test instead to

find out my food intolerances:

https://www.alcat.com/

Irina

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> lowdosenaltraxone

> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 6:08:49 AM

> Subject: raw foods

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> Has anyone heard about the Raw Foods Diet stopping all MS symptoms? Is anyone

here who has MS using the Raw Foods Diet? I read an article in a Women's First

mag that had an interview with a MS patient who said ALL her symptoms

disappeared after starting a raw foods diet.  I am really interested in anyone's

experience.  I was thinking that maybe it's just eating organic that actually

helped her.  Thanks..Mari Hail

>

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Some people such as myself grab most meals standing, at the computer,

driving, etc. Does anyone know of any raw food " power bar " or the

equivalent that doesn't have sugar and isn't mostly peanut butter?

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How about a bar of uncooked tofu?

Some people such as myself grab most meals standing, at the computer,

driving, etc. Does anyone know of any raw food " power bar " or the

equivalent that doesn't have sugar and isn't mostly peanut butter?

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Try Dr. Mercola in Illinois: Mercola.com

> From: VGammill <vgammill@...>

> Subject: [ ] raw foods

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> Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 10:36 AM

> Some people such as myself grab most

> meals standing, at the computer,

> driving, etc.  Does anyone know of any raw food " power

> bar " or the

> equivalent that doesn't have sugar and isn't mostly peanut

> butter?

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