Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 <<My aunt died three months ago of breast cancer. She did a few alternative things, no medical things. My grandmother now has it. (my mother had it too) Anyway, my gm is 82.>> Hello Dawn: Difficult situation for family to deal with, and I wish all of you and yours the best. Have read in many places that the coffee enema has pain relieving capabilities. Whether or not your gm would allow that don't know, but it is a possibility From: http://www.all-organic-food.com/coffdetx.htm <<This procedure (i.e., coffee enema) was discovered by a nurse in a World War One German army field hospital. With no painkillers available, this nurse administered an enema to several badly wounded soldiers with the only warm liquid available, a coffee pot. The results were astounding. Almost immediate relief from deep pain, relief that persisted for hours. This far exceeded any previous experience with orthodox pain killers and was immediately available for pfennigs. Max Gerson, M.D., was a Medical Officer in the German army. He began losing patients in his otherwise wildly successful attack on cancer. He deduced that it was the avalanche of toxic material gushing out of tumors and hiding places all over the body jamming up the liver that was killing his patients. He remembered the coffee enema. He stopped losing patients. Today, the Gerson Institute in California carries on the late Max Gerson's work. Website: www.gerson.org.>> The coffee enema is also used in many alternative cancer treatments from Gerson (who cured Jay " The Juiceman " Kordich's cancer), Dr. D. Kelley (who cured himself of incurable pancreatic cancer and still takes daily coffee enemas), and many others. I think that Dr. Normal also used it in his cure for his own cancer. It would be my #1 alternative cancer fighter should mine show up again. Yet, in spite of the claims for cancer cures, there is a lot of information out there about its pain relieving ability as well. Cayenne has also been said to a pain reliever both as a topical ointment application and through internal use. There are testimonials around that claim that cayenne has relieved muscle pain and the pain of arthritis. Cayenne is available in capsule form, or you can get it " straight " from health food stores. The hotter the better, but even the capsule form can cause distress so start out slow. I think the grocery store variety is about 35,000 heat units, the health food store can run from 140,000 to 180,000 and have even seen some 200,000. Again, go careful to start with. You can even buy your own capsuls and a small device that helps you fill them to save cost. Best to your gm, and to the family in support of her decisions. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 I know this list is primarily for gb problems, but wonder if any of you can direct me to good info for the following scenario. My aunt died three months ago of breast cancer. She did a few alternative things, no medical things. My grandmother now has it. (my mother had it too) Anyway, my gm is 82. She has my uncle living with her because she cannot live alone due to past stroke and going in and out of senility. The surgeons do not recommend surgery. They are recommending radiation. My gm is a Christian Scientist and wants no medical treatment. I am not sure what decision will be made. She will not do a full alternative route either. She is old and wants to go " home. " My question is, do any of you know of any measures that will reduce pain and or that will stop a bleeding tumor or pull the poison out. Simple things to improve her condition/make her comfortable? He is feeding her a lot of fruits and veggies, but that won't stop or reverse it. He is stopping sugar at my suggestion. Thanks, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2002 Report Share Posted June 10, 2002 > From: " azdmarie " <nortons@...> > > They are recommending radiation. I think that's a bad idea. > My gm is a Christian Scientist and wants no medical treatment. Good for her. > do any of you know of any measures that will reduce pain ... He is stopping sugar at my > suggestion. > Thanks, Dawn Stopping sugar will do a lot to reduce pain. I have found valerian root, the herb, to be quite effective. I toss it in the blender with water and then drink it. Starts to work gradually and then keeps working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2002 Report Share Posted June 11, 2002 > <<I have found valerian root, the herb, to be quite effective. I toss it in > the blender with water and then drink it. Starts to work gradually and then > keeps working.>> > > White Willow is a good pain killer. They make aspirin from it. I like it because it can be taken on an empty stomach if necessary. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. hi, I'm 21 and a mother od a new baby boy. I had my gallbladder removed 3 weeks ago. After the gallblader was removed they told me I also had cancer. I recently discovered It spread to other oragns. I'm only 21 I justt had a baby and i'm very scared what should i do? I'm going to 3 doctors there all telling me this or that. I start treatment soon what should i do? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mrs. M. Strickland You asked what you should do. Well, you should do your treatments when it comes time to do them. However, there is much more you can do besides chemo or other mainstream treatments. You can and should do alternative things too which will not hinder the mainstream's efforts and will in fact help their procedures too. You can use various other modalities to good health; oxygen, ozone, zapper, colloidal silver, Rife generator, liver cleansing diet, colon cleanse, exercise, and relaxation therapy, to name a few. Dealing with cancer is a process of learning new ways to live. It takes giving up past bad habits for newer life enhancing procedures and taking on the fullest respect for what life is really all about as the gift of which it is. The battle to stay alive is a battle of which we will all lose eventually, but, it's not an easy fact to look at squarely in the face. One of the best things a person can seek to do for the body is to get it alkaline as fast as possible as well as to work on getting the liver in a condition that will help to clear out the cancer as it is destroyed in the body's tissues. Eating foods to support that will certainly go a long way towards the battle of dealing with cancer. It has already been suggested to take a number of herbs that will help to make the body alkaline and act as radicals to destroy cancer cells. Besides herbs one of the best is oxygen for helping with this process. That is what eating various foods is all about too. The foods eaten help the body in the process of absorbing oxygen to help in making the body more alkaline. Oxygen is a free radical to attach to what should not be in the body in the first place. http://www.oxygentherapies.com/ http://www.appliedozone.com/medical.html http://www.geocities.com/launchdreamsindia/home.htm story about ozone ozonetherapy/message/57 So, with this in mind seeking the use of oxygen is one other method to use to deal with cancer. I would suggest the use of insufflated medical grade ozone since it will get concentrated oxygen to the various organs from the portal veins of the colon. Which would mean that you would also work on cleaning the colon so as to make way for the process of better absorption of food eaten and removal of toxin waste allowing the liver to function as best it can during the detoxification process of dealing with the cancer. There is so much to get into discussing but there is really only so much that can be brought to your attention at one time. Cancer is an opportunist that we all have lurking in us but because of various factors it just doesn't get a good hold to start, for some time in many cases and shorter in yet others. I think this article pretty much summarizes what I would like to write regarding some of the process to getting back to good health and discusses the use of the Rife machine. http://www.spine-ultrasound.com/riferay1.htm I'm a bit concerned about the amount of metastasis that has taken place in just a few weeks after your surgery, and would question the procedure used for your gallbladder surgery if they knew at the time that you had a cancer, and had cut through it in getting your gallbladder removed. I would like to know but don't expect you to be able to ascertain, is whether the doctors knew of the cancer before or after cutting your gallbladder out, and just what specific cancer it is. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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