Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Is it known what Koch's glyoxylide was? Chamberlain www.fightingcancer.com --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 : Yes, we know about Koch's product, glyoxylide and methylglyoxal. The Koch family will say no one knows for sure but as a Homeopathic Physician he would use a homeopathic version most likely. There is a chemical version which seems to work also. Check out what Dr.Ray in India has done...and continues to study... <http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:gAWGqElCizsJ:www.biochemj.org/bj/323/0343/\ 3230343.pdf+Dr.Ray,+Methylglyoxal & hl=en & ct=clnk & cd=2 & gl=us> Here's a list of some of the studies she's been doing. She's been studying the effects of Methylglyoxal for years... http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Manju+Ray%2C+Univ.+of+Calcutta & btnG=Search & h\ l=en & lr= In vivo assessment of toxicity and pharmacokinetics of methylglyoxal Augmentation of the curative effect of methylglyoxal on cancer-bearing mice by ascorbic acid and creatine Manju Ghosha <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WXH-4GX64MK-2 & _user=\ 10 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVer\ sion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=dfc669504ba98cfa5f9dafb0c388b2ed#aff1>, I've used it for years with our patients as part of a wholistic approach combined with Immunotherapy including Ozone MAHT, Photophoresis/Dendtritic Cell Therapy to help the body " see " Cancer or Infected Cells, a good metabolic and nutrition program, medical hyperthermia, Quantum Informational Medicine, etc. Hope this is useful... Carolyn Bormann, N.D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Carolyn Thank you for the references. From one of them I extracted this quote: " These studies indicated that methylglyoxal had no apparent deleterious effect on some vital organs of these animals. A detailed pharmacokinetic study was done with mouse after oral administration of methylglyoxal. The effect of methylglyoxal alone and in combination with creatine and ascorbic acid on cancer-bearing animals had been investigated by measuring the increase in life span and tumor cell growth inhibition. The results indicated that anticancer effect of methylglyoxal was significantly augmented by ascorbic acid and further augmented by ascorbic acid and creatine. Nearly 80% of the animals treated with methylglyoxal plus ascorbic acid plus creatine were completely cured and devoid of any malignant cells within the peritoneal cavity. " - this is very positive When I recently raised this subject recently made the point that methylglyoxal was in fact quite dangerous to take - and difficult to make in a pure way. However, a homoeopathic solution might be interesting - can you recommend a product and source? " Carolyn Bormann, N.D. " <drcnb@...> wrote: : Yes, we know about Koch's product, glyoxylide and methylglyoxal. The Koch family will say no one knows for sure but as a Homeopathic Physician he would use a homeopathic version most likely. There is a chemical version which seems to work also. Check out what Dr.Ray in India has done...and continues to study... <http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:gAWGqElCizsJ:www.biochemj.org/bj/323/0343/\ 3230343.pdf+Dr.Ray,+Methylglyoxal & hl=en & ct=clnk & cd=2 & gl=us> Here's a list of some of the studies she's been doing. She's been studying the effects of Methylglyoxal for years... http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Manju+Ray%2C+Univ.+of+Calcutta & btnG=Search & h\ l=en & lr= In vivo assessment of toxicity and pharmacokinetics of methylglyoxal Augmentation of the curative effect of methylglyoxal on cancer-bearing mice by ascorbic acid and creatine Manju Ghosha <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL & _udi=B6WXH-4GX64MK-2 & _user=\ 10 & _rdoc=1 & _fmt= & _orig=search & _sort=d & view=c & _acct=C000050221 & _version=1 & _urlVer\ sion=0 & _userid=10 & md5=dfc669504ba98cfa5f9dafb0c388b2ed#aff1>, I've used it for years with our patients as part of a wholistic approach combined with Immunotherapy including Ozone MAHT, Photophoresis/Dendtritic Cell Therapy to help the body " see " Cancer or Infected Cells, a good metabolic and nutrition program, medical hyperthermia, Quantum Informational Medicine, etc. Hope this is useful... Carolyn Bormann, N.D Chamberlain www.fightingcancer.com --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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