Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 I need to communicate with Ed about his products. Perhaps our new clinic could provide an outlet. Seems like he carries most things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 In a message dated 06/19/2000 9:48:17 AM Central Daylight Time, FAMANSON@... writes: << need to communicate with Ed about his products. Perhaps our new clinic could provide an outlet. Seems like he carries most things. >> _________________________ , Where is your new clinic? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 Erma, No I don't but the fella I mentioned that sells the miraculous (IMO) FIR (far infra-red) lamps also sells several brands of " foot shakers. " He is Ed , at http://www.cerebrex.com I believe Ed also sells zappers and such, too. jim Erma wrote: > > Jim, > > Did you tell us once that you have a good price on the machine? > > Erma > ermal@... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Air purifiers, bedding, household cleaning & more! gazoontite.com! > 1/5492/5/_/507288/_/961420018/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. -- Rehab is for quitters! -- anony - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 , Ed can be contacted at webmaster@... or arcangel@... I don't doubt he might be interested in working with you & the clinic. And, after two years of buying things from him, recommending people to him and watching other consumers deal with him on the neurotech list where I met him, I can assure any prospective customers that he is a dream to deal with. He is as friendly and helpful after the purchase as he is before it. And, should there be any problems with a product he sold, he will still be as friendly and helpful as before the sale. That's why I reccommend him to people! And, I have seen at least a dozen other people give him an equally hearty recommendation! Ed is real people! jim FAMANSON@... wrote: > > I need to communicate with Ed about his products. Perhaps our new > clinic could provide an outlet. Seems like he carries most things. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Need to allergy-proof your bedroom? Pristine mattress > encasements form a breathable barrier that protects your family from > common allergens. Order one today and get two pillow encasements FREE! > 1/5493/5/_/507288/_/961426005/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. -- Rehab is for quitters! -- anony - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 Jim. & All, After following the discussion here re: chi machines a few months ago and extensively considering the special deal on the Foot Shaker which Ed extends to members of this list, I recently ordered one of the machines from Ed. Although I'm not sure yet if these so-called chi machines really live up to their claims, I can vouch that the Foot Shaker is solidly engineered, and there is certainly nothing wrong with Ed's business behavior. Jim, as you say, Ed is a dream to deal with. Not that I doubted you, but I could see right away why you recommend him. As for the machine, I used it twice daily until I couldn't help questioning whether it was providing me any therapeutic result. These days, it's hard to find the incentive to use it. I've had the machine a few weeks now. In some of the promotional literature, an athlete already in good shape testifies that he experienced muscle soreness the day following his first swing machine experience (which he, being adventurous, overdid by doubling the recommended starting time limit of 15 minutes), as if he had worked out heavily. I can report no such effects (nor, really, any effects other than transitory relaxation and slight discomfort in my " bad " knee during treatment). I have a question for those of you who have personal experience with the chi machine class of therapeutic unit. Do you find that the swing machine, goldfish machine, chi machine, " Foot Shaker " type of machine actually lives up to its basic claim? My understanding is that the claim is for aerobic exercise. A few minutes on the machine is supposed to be the equivalent of several miles of walking. Comments? Green ~^~^~^~^ Re: Chi machine > , > > Ed can be contacted at webmaster@... or > arcangel@... > > I don't doubt he might be interested in working with you & the > clinic. And, after two years of buying things from him, > recommending people to him and watching other consumers deal with > him on the neurotech list where I met him, I can assure any > prospective customers that he is a dream to deal with. He is as > friendly and helpful after the purchase as he is before it. And, > should there be any problems with a product he sold, he will > still be as friendly and helpful as before the sale. > > That's why I reccommend him to people! And, I have seen at least > a dozen other people give him an equally hearty recommendation! > Ed is real people! > > jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 Green, My personal experience is that I stopped using it for a brief time about 3 months after I got it. Then, when I noticed my body wasn't as comfortable, I started it up again. I have had a few more iterations of that sort of ebbing & flowing of usage. But, I keep going back to it and I do notice I feel better in general when I am using it. Also, when I first got it I overdid it, and I did get sore from the exercise. It depends how out of shape you are. My 82 years pld mom uses the foot shaker every day. She credits it with several body improvements, most notably less need for her chiropractor. Before she used the shaker she felt a need to get her spine adjusted weekly. Now she puts it off for weeks at a time saying, " Nope! I don't need it now. " with a big smile on her face. SHe also says it has eliminated an ache in her right leg that has been there for years, and has kept her from sleeping on her right side. She says the only downside is that she is starting to sleep on her right side now and she thinks that might have caused the problem in the first place. We both experienced a little knee or leg discomfort initially. Unless there is a specific problem there, I believe it comes from the tensions that we carry, that are eventually relaxed with constant usage. One of the main features of using it is that its undulating motion keeps vertebrae from becoming subluxated, or locked together. I find my back is more limber in general, even when I'm not using it. But, now that I have an FIR lamp, I also believe the tensions that pull vertebrae out of place are symptoms of FIR deficiency. At minimum, FIR deficiency is a necessary component to most common body aches, IMO. jim My green1 wrote: > I have a question for those of you who have personal experience with the > chi machine class of therapeutic unit. Do you find that the swing machine, > goldfish machine, chi machine, " Foot Shaker " type of machine actually lives > up to its basic claim? My understanding is that the claim is for aerobic > exercise. A few minutes on the machine is supposed to be the equivalent > of several miles of walking. > > Comments? > > Green -- Rehab is for quitters! -- anony - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2000 Report Share Posted June 21, 2000 In a message dated 6/20/2000 9:38:12 AM Central Daylight Time, oxyplusegroups writes: << green1 " <green1@...> >> First time responder. I read the list all the time but have never gotten involved before, but you are on one of my favorite topics. I am a massage therapist and I am always interested in products that provide more oxygen. I have personally been using the Chi Machine 11 months and I use it with all of my massage clients . The recommendation when starting is 5 minutes at a time the first week and build up an additional 5 minutes each week until 30 minutes at a time. You can use it as many times a day as you wish but current research in Australia is not showing much change beyond 30 minutes at a time. There is a measurable blood oxygen level increase after 60 seconds on the machine. I do a lot of deep tissue work and I know it makes a difference on opening up the tissues and making less discomfort for my clients. I also am a distributor and I have not had any dissatisfied customers. I work with a number of people who have fibromyalgia and it is great for that. If you are a bodybuilder with a great sleeve and weak core, it helps strengthen the core muscles. There are 6 companies making copies of the Chi Machine and it is my understanding that legal action is currently being brought against them. I know a couple of people who have bought the off brands and found out that the lower price they paid did not make up for the physical problemst they caused. Dr.Shizuo Inoue spent 38 years researching oxygen and developing the Chi Machine. It gives the body the chance to balance itself. I have been hypoglysemic all my life and have dealt with it mainly through nutrition. Today is the first day in my entire life (54 yrs) I have been able to fast (water only) for 24 hrs and still feel great. I sometimes loan mine out to people and I cannot wait to get it back. If you get involved iwith Chi Machine users, you will hear lots of healing stories. Ede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 How does one get one or become a dealer and what do they cost. Any website refrerence to the manufacturer? _____________ The difference between genius and insanity is indiscernable to the eye of the ignorant. MMC-2000 M. Curtin CEO Integral Partners, Inc. 1030 E. Lancaster Ave., Suite 213 Rosemont, PA 19010 215.896.3749 Cell Phone (try first) 610.527.7287 Office 610.527.7288 FAX Re: Chi Machine |In a message dated 6/20/2000 9:38:12 AM Central Daylight Time, |oxyplusegroups writes: | |<< green1 " <green1@...> >> | | |First time responder. I read the list all the time but have never gotten |involved before, but you are on one of my favorite topics. I am a massage |therapist and I am always interested in products that provide more oxygen. I |have personally been using the Chi Machine 11 months and I use it with all of |my massage clients . The recommendation when starting is 5 minutes at a |time the first week and build up an additional 5 minutes each week until 30 |minutes at a time. You can use it as many times a day as you wish but |current research in Australia is not showing much change beyond 30 minutes at |a time. There is a measurable blood oxygen level increase after 60 seconds |on the machine. I do a lot of deep tissue work and I know it makes a |difference on opening up the tissues and making less discomfort for my |clients. I also am a distributor and I have not had any dissatisfied |customers. I work with a number of people who have fibromyalgia and it is |great for that. If you are a bodybuilder with a great sleeve and weak core, |it helps strengthen the core muscles. There are 6 companies making copies of |the Chi Machine and it is my understanding that legal action is currently |being brought against them. I know a couple of people who have bought the |off brands and found out that the lower price they paid did not make up for |the physical problemst they caused. Dr.Shizuo Inoue spent 38 years |researching oxygen and developing the Chi Machine. It gives the body the |chance to balance itself. I have been hypoglysemic all my life and have |dealt with it mainly through nutrition. Today is the first day in my entire |life (54 yrs) I have been able to fast (water only) for 24 hrs and still feel |great. I sometimes loan mine out to people and I cannot wait to get it back. | If you get involved iwith Chi Machine users, you will hear lots of healing |stories. | |Ede | |------------------------------------------------------------------------ |SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE |Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! |1/2658/6/_/507288/_/961643542/ |------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. | |THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! | |This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. | |You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - |DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : | | oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist | | oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 Dear Chi Owner, I also have a Chi machine, head about 6 inches diameter. I hear there are larger ones that give greater coverage of the body, but I expect they are expensive. I paid 599.00 for mine retail at a clinic. I have found others who would like to use my machine, and they have had good results I am thi;nking about selling them in our new clinic, but I don't know the suppliers. Could you advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2000 Report Share Posted June 26, 2000 I have the swing machine. It has been a most enjoyable experience, and does leave you with a definite " chi flow " sensation at end of session. The " Action " is definitely unique, in that it is different from any other " exercise " device I've ever used. I feel certain that it's effects are cumulative and benificial for the legs and spine. I find it difficult to believe that anyone would consider it aerobic as we define it in the western world. You won't break a sweat, nor lose weight. It's not even as energetic as Hatha Yoga, but it will work your spine. All said, I'm very glad to have it. Chuck My back is computerized--it has a floppy disk! On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:29:17 -0700, " green1 " <green1@...> wrote: > Do you find that the swing machine, >goldfish machine, chi machine, " Foot Shaker " type of machine actually lives >up to its basic claim? My understanding is that the claim is for aerobic >exercise. A few minutes on the machine is supposed to be the equivalent >of several miles of walking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Jim Went to website. Couldn't find anything on FIR. Do you have personal experience with it? Wong In a message dated 06/19/2000 6:51:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: > Erma, > > No I don't but the fella I mentioned that sells the miraculous > (IMO) FIR (far infra-red) lamps also sells several brands of > " foot shakers. " He is Ed , at http://www.cerebrex.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2000 Report Share Posted July 10, 2000 Wong, I keep telling Ed about his website, but he doesn't listen. The url for the lamps on his site is http://www.cerebrex.com/tdplamps.html Yes, I have personal experience. I don't talk favorably about anything unless I do. I think these are one of the most important inventions of the 20th century. It has made every body pain better from every person who has tried mine. This includes herneated disks. Here's another good info site. jim Wong111@... wrote: > > Jim > > Went to website. Couldn't find anything on FIR. Do you have personal > experience with it? > > Wong > > In a message dated 06/19/2000 6:51:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > jlambert@... writes: > > > Erma, > > > > No I don't but the fella I mentioned that sells the miraculous > > (IMO) FIR (far infra-red) lamps also sells several brands of > > " foot shakers. " He is Ed , at http://www.cerebrex.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Free Worldwide Calling with Firetalk! > Click Here: > 1/5481/6/_/507288/_/963223481/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. -- Rehab is for quitters! -- anony - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2000 Report Share Posted September 10, 2000 Around 100 dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2000 Report Share Posted September 10, 2000 Has anyone else out there had experience with this machine? Even with the discount it's quite expensive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2000 Report Share Posted September 10, 2000 You think that's expensive.....in Canada it's around $900..with the exchange, etc.....still wouldn't be without it......on RE: chi machine Has anyone else out there had experience with this machine? Even with the discount it's quite expensive!! You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the mailing list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2000 Report Share Posted September 11, 2000 -----Original Message----- From: H.Dollard [mailto:dollard@...] ....still wouldn't be without it......on ------------------ Why? What do you particularly like about the chi machine? How long have you had it? Have you firmed up and/or lost weight? & , Mississippi Gulf Coast, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Thanks! I was feeling very lonely on the list today! I will look up these things so I can know better what to do. Sincerely,~Karmahttp://loaves-n-fishes.com Re: Chi Machine Hi Karma,You might try Emailing Diane Clem. I know that she uses the Chi Machine.Her Email isdclem@... I looked in the archives and found a message from Barb Appel about oneof the oxygen machines it's archive #7500. Her email address is bappel@...I hope that this helps!Love, Liz ________________________________________________________________GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2001 Report Share Posted April 21, 2001 Hi Phil, I use them. I started out with the cheapest version I could find which I found in an auction at firstauction.com It is called the OxyFlow machine. I had to watch for the auction every day for a long time before I found it and won. I won the auction for $50.00 and bought 4 machines at that price. The first auction site only sent me one machine and said that I didn't win all four of the machines, I didn't save my receipt for it, so couldn't prove that I had won all four of them. They only charged me for one of them. I had planned on giving the other three to friends and family who would also benefit from the machine. I bought all four of them because I had never seen them cheaper than $100.00 and that was only once. Usually they were more. I was really impressed with how wonderful this machine felt. I have a low back problem that has cost me a small fortune in chiropractor fees over the years to minimize the pain. My low back is usually in some sort of pain. My experience was that after my first 15 minute session on the machine my low back was pain free! It was wonderful. I loved the energy that I could feel move all the way through my fingertips. It is really hard to explain, but very invigorating. I now use my machine three times a day. I then decided that if the cheapest machine works so well, I should look into the original Sun Harmony " Chi " machine. It is the most expensive on the market. It is an MLM machine, so I think that accounts for the price. I signed up to be a distributor and sell it at my cost which is $480.00. I honestly don't know if it is worth that much more than the cheaper version. The company says it is. I also looked into other versions of the machine. I found several versions and now carry them on my site as well. They range in price from $189.99 - $289.99, not including the " Chi " machine. Each of the machines does the back and forth movement and raises that " chi " energy to the fingertips. A lot of the difference is the manufactures warranties that go with the machine. I sell a lot of them to chiropractors and massage therapists. The machines have now been approved for insurance claims so my sales increased as the time on the machine can be billed to insurance. If you have any other questions, just ask, I have tried most of the machines out there and can tell you what the differences are. I still use the cheap one, although it isn't holding up as well as I had hoped it would. It is also hard to get. You have to order it from HSN by phone or find it on auction at firstauction.com Best wishes, ~Karma Chi Machine I've been reading on the Chi Machines that are supposed to oxygenate the body. Has anyone used them or know much about them? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2001 Report Share Posted April 21, 2001 Phil, I think I started the swing-thing interest on the list a while back. I have used cheap ones as well as expensive ones, and they all work as well as each other. Some have more comfortable ankle rests. some are built with plastic gears that will wear out. Some have steel gears that will not, but they cost more. The bottom line is spend as little as you can, they all work fine. Only spend more for a better one if you are sure you will continue using it and you want it to last forever. jim > > Chi Machine > > I've been reading on the Chi Machines that are supposed to oxygenate the > body. Has anyone used them or know much about them? > > Phil > ----- carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 I have one and have been using it a lot. It relaxes and balances to a degree. As for oxygenation - I don't know. Phil Comer skrev: > I've been reading on the Chi Machines that are supposed to oxygenate the > body. Has anyone used them or know much about them? > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 In a message dated 4/25/2001 9:32:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, philcome@... writes: << I have been reading about the " Chi Machine " . Has anyone tried it and what effect did it have? I've read on its physics and it is supposed to oxygenate the tissues, increase tissue pH and cleanse the lymph system. Phil >> It's good and it is the same thing, as far as I can tell, as the Oxyflow, which is available from the home shopping network (0f all places) hsn.com, for $119 U.S. including shipping. (this was the price last year at least). It comes with a 30 day money back guarantee. The chi machine is like, what $250 or $300? The oxyflow is sturdily built, very good quality. Helps with circulation and energy. Also, I loaned mine to a friend for about 2 months and she doesn't have any health problems and she thought that it compared to aerobics in the energy it gave her! The really great thing about it is, you can do it if you are feeling kind of sick (because you just lie there and *it* excercises *you*). Not if you're real sick, say with chills and a fever, because then you might feel worse, but using it while somewhat sick has been okay for me. Overall, I highly recommend this machine. I got mine over a year ago and still use it, which is high praise for any kind of home exercise equipment! I don't have any affiliation with Oxyflow, home shopping network, etc. I knew about the Oxyflow because someone from our local cfids group called me excitedly about it and said it was the best thing she had tried for cfids in years. Anyway, I have looked into the chi machine a little bit and it seems to me to be the same thing, so if you were going to try one of them, I'd go with the lower priced one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 Hi Phil, No surprise. Did you that some successful medical treatments are getting suppressed in the US because they would reduce the income of drug companies and other US medical racketeers. Ozone is successful in Europe, but special interests in the US are paying off people from getting it approved. It's Alternative Medicine VS Western Medicine. Al Chi Machine > . My doctor is having to > fight her state board for practicing alternative medicine;what hypocrisy > in the system. > Phil > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 Phil, Is the " Chi " machine the same as the " Chi Gong " machine? I have a " Chi Gong " machine. Michele > I am no longer getting the daily posts;I just need a break from this. I > am somewhat discouraged with my lack of progress. My doctor is having to > fight her state board for practicing alternative medicine;what hypocrisy > in the system. Anway I will not trouble you with all of that. > > I have been reading about the " Chi Machine " . Has anyone tried it and > what effect did it have? I've read on its physics and it is supposed to > oxygenate the tissues, increase tissue pH and cleanse the lymph system. > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 Michele I am not familar with the " chi Gong " machine so I don't know. Phil > Phil, > Is the " Chi " machine the same as the " Chi Gong " machine? I have a " Chi > Gong " machine. > > Michele > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 Dear Peggy, Yes, you could say it is a form of oxygen therapy. By the same token, taking a calcium supplement could also be said to be a form of oxygen therapy, because ionic calcium is what brings oxygen into the cell. That is why a lack of calcium is associated with 150 degenerative diseases, up to and including cancer. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH chi machine > Dear Saul, > > You recently advised me that a chi machine would be useful for cleansing the lymphatic system (as I'm unable to use my rebounder). Now I read in their literature that they call the machine an oxygenator and state that 5 minutes on the machine is equivalent to a 30 minute walk in oxygenation. (They don't claim it has the other benefits of exercise, obviously). Would you agree with any of this or is it just hype? If true it would mean that a chi machine is a form of oxygen therapy, wouldn't it? And especially useful for anyone who, because of physical limitations, is unable to exercise much. > > Thanks. > > Peggy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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