Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hi Rose, Sorry to hear about your mom. But I mentioned to you weeks ago that the other whey products are not the same and not as good. Immunocal is the ONLY one clinicly proven to raise glutathione. If they were the same Immunocal would not have a need for the patents. I know first hand that it works. I would be very interested in knowing her progress when you switch back . Just tonight I ran across my neighbor that first told me about it on youtube. I put the link below. Also is she off sugar? On an alkaline diet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsmyvsG1Kto & feature=channel_page Slight correction to the information below. One of the test results was missing. My Mom's CA125 went from 5000 on 8/05/08 to 233 on 09/09/08 and is now 300 as of 11/17/08. Her last chemo was on 8/29/08. It was the 233 in Sept that we did not know when I posted the email below. Now my concern is why have her numbers gone up? We did switch from Immunocal to Undenatured Whey Protein but I don't know of anything else that has changed. She has been following Budwig Protocol to the T. She was actually going to start weekly lower-dose chemo treatments today (don't ask!) and by some divine intervention, my Uncle had the appointment time wrong, didn't pick her up to go and she decided it was fate and would hold off until at least after the holidays. My plan now is to get her on Oleander Soup Protocol in addition to the Budwig and stress that she test again prior to any decision for more chemo. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Immunocal will not stop CA125, I can bet large amount of money on that. I used Immunocal beyond {over} 1 year - without influence on CA125. Not one can condemn whey. It contains vitamins: B1, B2, B6, B12, E, C and of many minerals (phosphorus, calcium, zinc ). According to my knowledge, it's safer not to use Immunocal during chemo. Some researchers say that high levels glutathione strengthens resistance cancer cells on chemo. Jan _____ From: Trade Products Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:56 AM Hi Rose, Sorry to hear about your mom. But I mentioned to you weeks ago that the other whey products are not the same and not as good. Immunocal is the ONLY one clinicly proven to raise glutathione. If they were the same Immunocal would not have a need for the patents. I know first hand that it works....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 > But I mentioned to you weeks ago that the other whey products are not >the same and not as good. Immunocal is the ONLY one clinicly proven to >raise glutathione. In all due respect, Dennis, I just don't believe this statement. A simple google search of " whey " and " glutathione " is bringing up all sorts of papers, studies, and articles dealing with how ORDINARY WHEY POWDER significantly raises glutathione levels. Now, if you get cold filtered undenatured whey isolate, I'm sure the situation is even better. I'm sure Immunocal is better (of higher quality) than garden variety whey isolate. But is it " worth the price " better? Is it 500% better or only 20% better? (The same issue applies to many types of MLM supplements, such as, for example, aloe vera extract or " manninol " .) This issue is important for most of us, because most of us are on limited budgets and alternative cancer approaches are often expensive. Immonocal is expensive, and the question arises if it provides the best " bang for the buck " ? E.g., If I get immunocal, I can no longer afford to get Sutherlandia OPC and Artemix (just as an example). Is it worth the trade-off? Or can I achieve 70 - 80% of the same results as Immunocal using regular whey isolate at a fraction of the cost? This is an important issue -- lives may depend on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Make sure you are buying an 'undenatured whey protein isolate' and you will be fine. You do not need to spend the extra money on Immunocal if you cannot afford it and it will prevent you from being able to continue with other needed supplements. But by all means, if money is no object, go with the the Immunocal and if your insurance pays for it, even better! Hugs, Rose From: jim. Denis wrote: But I mentioned to you weeks ago that the other whey products are not the same and not as good. Immunocal is the ONLY one clinicly proven to raise glutathione. > In all due respect, Dennis, I just don't believe this statement. A simple google search of " whey " and " glutathione " is bringing up all sorts of papers, studies, and articles dealing with how ORDINARY WHEY POWDER significantly raises glutathione levels. Now, if you get cold filtered undenatured whey isolate, I'm sure the situation is even better. I'm sure Immunocal is better (of higher quality) than garden variety whey isolate. But is it " worth the price " better? Is it 500% better or only 20% better? (The same issue applies to many types of MLM supplements, such as, for example, aloe vera extract or " manninol " .) This issue is important for most of us, because most of us are on limited budgets and alternative cancer approaches are often expensive. Immonocal is expensive, and the question arises if it provides the best " bang for the buck " ?E.g., If I get immunocal, I can no longer afford to get Sutherlandia OPC and Artemix (just as an example). Is it worth the trade-off? Or can I achieve 70 - 80% of the same results as Immunocal using regular whey isolate at a fraction of the cost? This is an important issue -- lives may depend on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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