Hormones

[Guest guest]

Thank you both for sharing this. I started using progesterone cream and

suddenly I have gain weight so very quickly.

This may be my answer

Jeanne

Re: Re: hormones

In a message dated 12/29/2006 2:51:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

fluteteacher@... writes:

I used progesterone cream and gained 10 lbs. I do not believe that it

was a coincidence especially since the gain happened so quickly.I

haven't gained a lb since I quit using it. I have lost 10 lbs since

Thanksgiving. I began using coconut oil regularly at that time. I

will never use progesterone cream again.

...I am with you on that...I gained weight as well and because I started

the coconut oil and prog cream at the same time...I blamed both....but have

since stopped both...and will add back the coconut oil....but not the prog

cream...it makes me gain weight and feel awful....Beth in Idaho

[Guest guest]

Jackie, as a guess I'd think you'd be tapering off the

progesterone, but since it's really a precursor it might not

matter if you don't; it should be made (or not) into hormones if

a need exists.

Don't expect a fast change with SomaLife gHP because it takes

awhile for organs and glands to heal and improve in size and

function.

Energy should improve as you detoxify, and part of that could be

liver flushing and part should be antioxidants, undenatured whey

and selenium; The glutathione produced by whey and selenium is

crucial to energy production. The thyroid may improve as you

reduce toxin load.

The other thing is to not eat carbs until noon, to preserve a

slightly higher level of HGH for the morning, and not eat carbs

right before bed, as the SomaLife gHP will be jacking up HGH

release and you don't want to force that action to shut down with

carbs, defeating the SomaLife.

Duncan

On 29 Dec 2006 at 22:48, Coconut Oil

wrote:

>

> Posted by: " Jackie " jacqueline33875@... jacqueline33875

> Date: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:13 pm ((PST))

>

> ok i am now on the macafem and the somalife ghp to help with my

> hormone balance. do i still need the prog cream? or is this hormones

> overload? i made an appointment to see the chinese medicine person in

> late Jan. i feel like i am taking so many pills. my hot flashes are

> gone but my mood swings,weight gain and energy are still shot. i have

> also been having headaches. I have been on the macafem for a month

> and the somalife ghp for 3 days. it sure cleans you out though!!!

> what about thyroid throu? it is like $390.00 for one treatment (6

> weeks worth) i would consider it if it helped!!

>

[Guest guest]

Us the hair analysis at http://www.angelhealth.co.uk it works the best. Bye Sue

[Guest guest]

Start in the nutrion panel and use stabilize hormones and click the stabilize all button.

JD

hormones

I have three male clients and all of them need their hormones balancing, where do I start and what would be the best session for them?

[Guest guest]

Bless you for your good wishes (for sleep) for me and your suggestions. I know

what you mean about the effects of no sleep. I get absolutely nothing done and

feel even more unfocused.

I've got Burbur for detox. But, I've been lax about keeping up with the other

detoxifiers. I hadn't even thought about that contributing to the anxiety and

migraines.

I hope you get a good night's sleep, too!

>

> ,

>

> Today is a good day for me. I take the majority of my hormones at night, right

before I go to bed. Also magnesium. Also 2 melatonin. Drink camamille tea with

other " relaxing " additives. Try and read a little before I turn the lights off.

>

> Finally have been starting to sleep. When I don't, it just ruins all my

ambition.

>

> I had bad anxiety and was stressed out and " aggro " (that's a technical term

:-)) without my estrogen. Trying to do some exercise every day, even if it's

just to stretch.

>

> Have you tried detoxing herbs and protocols at all? Without these, I start to

wake up with bad headaches - some of which turned into migraines. Another way to

ruin my day!

>

> I wish you 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep tonight!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't give any thyroid medicine unless you actually had the thyroid

function tested.

For thyroid support, there are several supplements you can buy at a health food

store or vitamin store like Super Supplements.

Same for adrenal. Search on or google about either and find lots of info.

TJ

________________________________

From: ngozi_cathy <ngozi_cathy@...>

Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 1:18:21 PM

Subject: [ ] hormones

hello everyone,

i'm treating my son's mercury poisoning on my own as there aren't too many

doctors who can treat it properly. i came to the US on a visit and i'm not

resident here. please can anyone tell me where to get adrenal cortex extract and

dessicated/armour thyroid without a prescription? i would be grateful- i just

bought andy's book and my son hair test show adrenal and thyroid issues. i'm

soory if the question has been asked before but i do need help

catherine

[Guest guest]

You can ordre adrenal cortex from ihberb.com or Vitacost. It is made by Allergy

Research Group.

You cannot get Armour without a prescription in the US. Also, you should never

give this without proper blood labs to verify he needs it. It can cause some big

problems if you give it to someone and they don't need it.

-- In , " ngozi_cathy " <ngozi_cathy@...> wrote:

>

> hello everyone,

> i'm treating my son's mercury poisoning on my own as there aren't too many

doctors who can treat it properly. i came to the US on a visit and i'm not

resident here. please can anyone tell me where to get adrenal cortex extract and

dessicated/armour thyroid without a prescription? i would be grateful- i just

bought andy's book and my son hair test show adrenal and thyroid issues. i'm

soory if the question has been asked before but i do need help

> catherine

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

If you're in the US, you can try calling a nearby Vitamin Shoppe since they

carry it: http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/index.jsp?_requestid=294967 In

my experience, they seem to stock it centrally for online orders but local

stores may not carry it, so call before going if that's the only thing you want

from them.

If you can order online, iherb has the best prices that I've found:

www.iherb.com

For Armour, I'll send you a private message with a supplier that I know of.

Where do you live?

HTH,

>

> hello everyone,

> i'm treating my son's mercury poisoning on my own as there aren't too many

doctors who can treat it properly. i came to the US on a visit and i'm not

resident here. please can anyone tell me where to get adrenal cortex extract and

dessicated/armour thyroid without a prescription? i would be grateful- i just

bought andy's book and my son hair test show adrenal and thyroid issues. i'm

soory if the question has been asked before but i do need help

> catherine

>

[Guest guest]

I think this is a very interesting possibility.I can feel my testosterone is

very low.(lack of sexual desire,in fact lowest I can remember)There is a vitamin

dhea that helps stimulate testosterone...Not advising anyone to take this

without investigation...This mess started Nov 2008 and I've never felt this low

a level of sexual interest...of course when You have " things " it is exhausting

and all but nonetheless I think it's a VERY important point

--- tommy02141@... wrote:

From: tommy morrow <tommy02141@...>

bird mites

Subject: hormones

Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:26:03 -0700 (PDT)

I have spoken to many people who have this and it seems that these " things "

prefer women over men.But the men that do get this all seem to be older for the

most part. Me I am 27 so I don't fit the bill.When I went to the doctors they

tested me for all sorts of things and one thing that sticks out in my mind is

that I had real low testosterone. There are a few other guys that have this that

I have spoke with who were tested and they also had low testosterone.So I am

wondering who  in this group has had there hormones tested since this mess

started for them?

                                        \

                                      tommy

[Guest guest]

I think this is a very interesting possibility.I can feel my testosterone is

very low.(lack of sexual desire,in fact lowest I can remember)There is a vitamin

dhea that helps stimulate testosterone...Not advising anyone to take this

without investigation...This mess started Nov 2008 and I've never felt this low

a level of sexual interest...of course when You have " things " it is exhausting

and all but nonetheless I think it's a VERY important point

--- tommy02141@... wrote:

From: tommy morrow <tommy02141@...>

bird mites

Subject: hormones

Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:26:03 -0700 (PDT)

I have spoken to many people who have this and it seems that these " things "

prefer women over men.But the men that do get this all seem to be older for the

most part. Me I am 27 so I don't fit the bill.When I went to the doctors they

tested me for all sorts of things and one thing that sticks out in my mind is

that I had real low testosterone. There are a few other guys that have this that

I have spoke with who were tested and they also had low testosterone.So I am

wondering who  in this group has had there hormones tested since this mess

started for them?

                                        \

                                      tommy

[Guest guest]

I haven't had mine tested but I know they are low. Lots of signs. Never had a

really male shape, hatred of sports and most guy activities, much more

female-brained. Always thought I should have been born a girl. So

yeah...probably low on the T.

Ian

>

> I have spoken to many people who have this and it seems that these " things "

prefer women over men.But the men that do get this all seem to be older for the

most part. Me I am 27 so I don't fit the bill.When I went to the doctors they

tested me for all sorts of things and one thing that sticks out in my mind is

that I had real low testosterone. There are a few other guys that have this that

I have spoke with who were tested and they also had low testosterone.So I am

wondering who in this group has had there hormones tested since this mess

started for them?

>

tommy

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting,

I know that Adam said that he was tested and his testosterone levels

were low as well. The Endocrinologist could not find a reason why

that was. I also have low testosterone, and had to take hormone shots

when I was younger.

You might be onto something here.

I have thought before that maybe a person should take a growth hormone

releaser and see if that would help this problem. I do know of a lady

who claims that it does help...but she sells stuff, so have to take

her claims with a grain of salt.

>

> I have spoken to many people who have this and it seems that these " things "

prefer women over men.But the men that do get this all seem to be older for the

most part. Me I am 27 so I don't fit the bill.When I went to the doctors they

tested me for all sorts of things and one thing that sticks out in my mind is

that I had real low testosterone. There are a few other guys that have this that

I have spoke with who were tested and they also had low testosterone.So I am

wondering who  in this group has had there hormones tested since this mess

started for them?

>                                                                              

tommy

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have spoken to many people who have this and it seems that these " things "

prefer women over men.But the men that do get this all seem to be older for the

most part. Me I am 27 so I don't fit the bill.When I went to the doctors they

tested me for all sorts of things and one thing that sticks out in my mind is

that I had real low testosterone. There are a few other guys that have this that

I have spoke with who were tested and they also had low testosterone.So I am

wondering who  in this group has had there hormones tested since this mess

started for them?

>                                                                              

tommy

>

That might have something to do with it, but I don't think so - I'm well past

the change, and the bugs took it in stride. The only time they went away was

during 4 months of chemotherapy in 2000, and they came back along with my hair!

LOL

[Guest guest]

,

My sleep and brain have been off the last week or so and was thinking of our

last conversations.

Is your detoxing and sleep getting any better? Are you using melatonin and

glutithione?

After months on CC, I added just 2 andrographis a couple fo days ago. Tummy

is not horrible but brain fuzzies are overwhelming. Am I missing anything?

Anybody?

W.

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:34 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Hormones

Bless you for your good wishes (for sleep) for me and your suggestions. I

know what you mean about the effects of no sleep. I get absolutely nothing

done and feel even more unfocused.

I've got Burbur for detox. But, I've been lax about keeping up with the

other detoxifiers. I hadn't even thought about that contributing to the

anxiety and migraines.

I hope you get a good night's sleep, too!

>

> ,

>

> Today is a good day for me. I take the majority of my hormones at night,

right before I go to bed. Also magnesium. Also 2 melatonin. Drink camamille

tea with other " relaxing " additives. Try and read a little before I turn the

lights off.

>

> Finally have been starting to sleep. When I don't, it just ruins all my

ambition.

>

> I had bad anxiety and was stressed out and " aggro " (that's a technical

term :-)) without my estrogen. Trying to do some exercise every day, even if

it's just to stretch.

>

> Have you tried detoxing herbs and protocols at all? Without these, I start

to wake up with bad headaches - some of which turned into migraines. Another

way to ruin my day!

>

> I wish you 8 hours of uninterrupted sleep tonight!

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Sorry to be slow in answering you...I'm on digest and it takes a day or two. My

sleep is better than what it was. I still use melatonin and 5 HTP also helps

with sleep and anxiety. I discovered that the 5 HTP was helping when I ran out

of it. I'm still *dreaming* of a good 8 hours of uninterrupted and satisfying

sleep.

I was using liposomal glutathione, but it's really expensive. Oral is not as

effective. I use whey and selenium, which is supposed to get levels up.

It sounds like you're tolerating the andrographis better than I did. My stomach

was a wreck from the start. I had a recent doctor appointment (with a new dr.)

and he said the extreme sensitivity I have can be related to low adrenals and

thyroid.

Good luck with everything!

> ,

>

> My sleep and brain have been off the last week or so and was thinking of our

> last conversations.

>

> Is your detoxing and sleep getting any better? Are you using melatonin and

> glutithione?

>

> After months on CC, I added just 2 andrographis a couple fo days ago. Tummy

> is not horrible but brain fuzzies are overwhelming. Am I missing anything?

>

> Anybody?

>

> W.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Anybody with experience using Carnivora?

JAZZMAN

[ ] Re: Hormones

,

Sorry to be slow in answering you...I'm on digest and it takes a day or two. My

sleep is better than what it was. I still use melatonin and 5 HTP also helps

with sleep and anxiety. I discovered that the 5 HTP was helping when I ran out

of it. I'm still *dreaming* of a good 8 hours of uninterrupted and satisfying

sleep.

I was using liposomal glutathione, but it's really expensive. Oral is not as

effective. I use whey and selenium, which is supposed to get levels up.

It sounds like you're tolerating the andrographis better than I did. My stomach

was a wreck from the start. I had a recent doctor appointment (with a new dr.)

and he said the extreme sensitivity I have can be related to low adrenals and

thyroid.

Good luck with everything!

> ,

>

> My sleep and brain have been off the last week or so and was thinking of our

> last conversations.

>

> Is your detoxing and sleep getting any better? Are you using melatonin and

> glutithione?

>

> After months on CC, I added just 2 andrographis a couple fo days ago. Tummy

> is not horrible but brain fuzzies are overwhelming. Am I missing anything?

>

> Anybody?

>

> W.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi. I went to the doctor this week, and had some blood work done. My thryoid

came back low. I haven't had the saliva test done yet for the female hormones,

but I expect that my progesterone is on the low side. Right now I started Maca

root to try and help that.

Does anyone else with seizures have low thyroid? What are you doing for it?

Thanks.

Love,

jnanda

[Guest guest]

Hi Jnanda:

my mother had seizures when her thyroid was high.. they radiated it and... guess

what ....seizures gone!

I experimented with maca before menopause, at first it made me feel better but

later it messed up my

periods... it scared me and I left it. I have to admit, I did not know what I

was doing. Please let me

know how it works out for you. I do the bioidenticals, but I wish I did not

need them. I don't like to

be dependent on dr's and I would rather go with plants.

Have you read the book by Dr. Lee, what your doctor never told you about

premenopause?

He recommends some creams that are made with mexican yam.. There are many on the

market

but only a few are supposed to really be good. Learn to read the labels. He

explains why some

are not good for you and all that progesterone can do to help your body work

better. You can get them at the health food store,

in case the maca makes your head more irritable. Hopefully it doesn't.

Remember, when you go through menopause,

you are going to have changes, It can make your seizures worst or it can make

them go away!

Jnanda, I am sorry if I am talking to you like you don't know anything, I am

sure you know a ton of stuff

that I wish I would know. I am just trying to give you

what I have learned through 3 years of trials and tribulations with menopause

and this seizure crisis.

I hope some of it is new and it helps you,

Good Luck,

________________________________

From: jnanda <jnanda@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:32:46 PM

Subject: [ ] Re:hormones

Hi. I went to the doctor this week, and had some blood work done. My thryoid

came back low. I haven't had the saliva test done yet for the female hormones,

but I expect that my progesterone is on the low side. Right now I started Maca

root to try and help that.

Does anyone else with seizures have low thyroid? What are you doing for it?

Thanks.

Love,

jnanda

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee and others,

> I've read a lot about how candida can affect our hormones but I'm wondering if

I should be concerned about not getting my period at all yet in 6 months. No

spotting, PMS or any signs of getting it. I was on the birth control pill on and

off for 10 years but got off of it 6 months ago. Since I stopped taking it I

still have yet to get my period. Should I be concerned or is this part of

healing?

@@@ I wouldn't be concerned as we feed our body the good stuff it knows exactly

what to do. Our job? feed it right. It's job? everything else.

> Thanks and have a great day!

@@@ It's shaping up to be a dandy one.

>

@@@ Neal

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee and others,

> I've read a lot about how candida can affect our hormones but I'm wondering if

I should be concerned about not getting my period at all yet in 6 months. No

spotting, PMS or any signs of getting it. I was on the birth control pill on and

off for 10 years but got off of it 6 months ago. Since I stopped taking it I

still have yet to get my period. Should I be concerned or is this part of

healing?

> Thanks and have a great day!

++Hi . No, you should not be concerned like Neal wrote. Your periods will

eventually resume.

We had one member, about 22 years old, who had never had a period, and after

about 6 months on this program her periods started. She was elated since she

thought she could never have children.

Luv, Bee

[Guest guest]

No but for years I've taken Noreth/Estrad

(necon) 1/35 once daily throughout the

month (no week break). My doctor originally recommended this treatment to

alleiate my monthly headaches that came along with my period (not to mention my

unstable emotional state during " that time " ). This treatment is only now

becoming more popular (not to have a monthly period). I'm glad my doctor was so

forward thinking ( is even happier...haha).

If you tried this routine, you may solve what sounds like a huge issue in your

life.

I hope you start to feel better soon so you can get out and start enjoying life.

Lori

I am Bippy on Twitter.

________________________________

From: Maggie Witkowski <meg.w@...>

Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 5:07:55 PM

Subject: HORMONES

TO ALL THE LADIES:

Has any woman in the group ever been put on testosterone? A hormone pill/cream

called Estratest?

I have been experiencing horrible PMS, and probably have PMDD. I have all the

symptoms. This PMS is killing me emotionally.

I’ve been diagnosed with Depression (NOS) and Generalized Anxiety. So, I am

currently on Hydrocodone (325mg/10mg) for my abdominal and arm pain, an

antidepressant called Laxapro (20mg), Xanax (0.5mg, 3xday) for anxiety and

recently began Adderral (10mg in the AM, 5mg in late afternoon) to help with my

fatigue and help boost the effectiveness of the antidepressant. It has helped

with my abdominal pain and lessened my anxiety and has helped to raised my

energy level.

The depression and crying spells are totally different than the type of

depression I take meds for. I can tell that its hormone-related.

I’ve been struggling with reoccurring severe depression (crying spells) each

month. I feel great after I stop bleeding, but for a few days. This severe

depression lasts for about 3 weeks and then it suddenly disappears and I feel

like myself again, but it only lasts 4-5 days. This happens every month and

coincides with my menstruation.

I’ve tried YAZ, Seasonal, Depo-Provera, recently Progestin-only pills (not

helpful) and Tri-Norinyl. The Tri-Norinyl used to work fine and I was on it for

years. I would get this same type of depression for 1-2 days, as I stopped

bleeding. After some time, I went off the pills and wanted to see if my cycle

has regulated itself yet, since I was almost 30, plus I was dealing with my

non-stop abdominal pain and wanted to see if the pain would get better if I was

off the hormones. Once I went off it, some time went by, I was still irregular,

still had the abdominal pain and when I went back on it, my PMS symptoms

didn’t improve. So these pills no longer work for me.

So, my new Gynie is thinking of trying a small dose of testosterone (2mg a day)

to see if I feel better. My blood work shows that my testosterone level is a

bit low than what a woman should have. She said women who have my type of

symptoms have felt 100% better and had more energy and a increase in libido.

Side effects are: it can raise my cholesterol. Rare side effects are: my voice

could get deeper and I may notice a small increase in facial hair.

The Estratest Pill is very hard to find, so I’m searching the net to see where

I can get it from. Anyone know where I can get it?

Is there any other woman here who has experienced this horrible PMS

depression/crying spells???

Are there other types of hormones or meds or supplements that has been helpful

to anyone?

Please help me! I can’t endure any more of this dreadful feeling I have

inside me all the time and eyes burn from crying for no reason!

Email me privately, if you feel more comfortable talking about this in greater

detail.

HELP ME PLEASE!!!

God Bless,

Meg W.

[Guest guest]

Meg,

Estratest has major cancer warnings all over it. See web:

http://www.rxlist.com/estratest-drug.htm Estratest was supplied by a company

called Solvay. In March 2009 Solvay announced that, based on a variety of

business factors, it would discontinue supplying Estratest and Estratest HS

tablets, and would stop accepting orders for the product on March 31, 2009. It

is possible to get a generic version but demand is high and supply is low. Ask

your pharmacist about the generic version.

Alana

>

> TO ALL THE LADIES:

>

>

>

> Has any woman in the group ever been put on testosterone? A hormone

pill/cream called Estratest?

>

>

>

> I have been experiencing horrible PMS, and probably have PMDD. I have all the

symptoms. This PMS is killing me emotionally.

>

> I’ve been diagnosed with Depression (NOS) and Generalized Anxiety. So, I am

currently on Hydrocodone (325mg/10mg) for my abdominal and arm pain, an

antidepressant called Laxapro (20mg), Xanax (0.5mg, 3xday) for anxiety and

recently began Adderral (10mg in the AM, 5mg in late afternoon) to help with my

fatigue and help boost the effectiveness of the antidepressant. It has helped

with my abdominal pain and lessened my anxiety and has helped to raised my

energy level.

>

>

>

> The depression and crying spells are totally different than the type of

depression I take meds for. I can tell that its hormone-related.

>

> I’ve been struggling with reoccurring severe depression (crying spells) each

month. I feel great after I stop bleeding, but for a few days. This severe

depression lasts for about 3 weeks and then it suddenly disappears and I feel

like myself again, but it only lasts 4-5 days. This happens every month and

coincides with my menstruation.

>

>

>

> I’ve tried YAZ, Seasonal, Depo-Provera, recently Progestin-only pills (not

helpful) and Tri-Norinyl. The Tri-Norinyl used to work fine and I was on it for

years. I would get this same type of depression for 1-2 days, as I stopped

bleeding. After some time, I went off the pills and wanted to see if my cycle

has regulated itself yet, since I was almost 30, plus I was dealing with my

non-stop abdominal pain and wanted to see if the pain would get better if I was

off the hormones. Once I went off it, some time went by, I was still irregular,

still had the abdominal pain and when I went back on it, my PMS symptoms

didn’t improve. So these pills no longer work for me.

>

>

>

> So, my new Gynie is thinking of trying a small dose of testosterone (2mg a

day) to see if I feel better. My blood work shows that my testosterone level is

a bit low than what a woman should have. She said women who have my type of

symptoms have felt 100% better and had more energy and a increase in libido.

Side effects are: it can raise my cholesterol. Rare side effects are: my voice

could get deeper and I may notice a small increase in facial hair.

>

>

>

> The Estratest Pill is very hard to find, so I’m searching the net to see

where I can get it from. Anyone know where I can get it?

>

>

>

> Is there any other woman here who has experienced this horrible PMS

depression/crying spells???

>

>

>

> Are there other types of hormones or meds or supplements that has been helpful

to anyone?

>

>

>

> Please help me! I can’t endure any more of this dreadful feeling I have

inside me all the time and eyes burn from crying for no reason!

>

>

>

> Email me privately, if you feel more comfortable talking about this in greater

detail.

>

>

>

> HELP ME PLEASE!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> God Bless,

>

> Meg W.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Meg,

I used to have crying spells a while back but I do not think it was related

to hormones, more like situational depression. My Drs started me on a

small dose of Neurontin (Gabapentin) 200mg TID and it decreased these crying

spells. I still am on this dose and no longer have these crying spells,

and I believe it's helping my chronic pain also. The Drs explained to me

that Neurontin is used for many things (off label), but they aren't sure of

the mechanisms behind all of the uses. Just thought I'd throw this out there.

Take Care,

Kimi

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In a message dated 5/24/2010 6:08:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

meg.w@... writes:

TO ALL THE LADIES:

Has any woman in the group ever been put on testosterone? A hormone

pill/cream called Estratest?

I have been experiencing horrible PMS, and probably have PMDD. I have all

the symptoms. This PMS is killing me emotionally.

I’ve been diagnosed with Depression (NOS) and Generalized Anxiety. So, I

am currently on Hydrocodone (325mg/10mg) for my abdominal and arm pain, an

antidepressant called Laxapro (20mg), Xanax (0.5mg, 3xday) for anxiety and

recently began Adderral (10mg in the AM, 5mg in late afternoon) to help with

my fatigue and help boost the effectiveness of the antidepressant. It has

helped with my abdominal pain and lessened my anxiety and has helped to

raised my energy level.

The depression and crying spells are totally different than the type of

depression I take meds for. I can tell that its hormone-related.

I’ve been struggling with reoccurring severe depression (crying spells)

each month. I feel great after I stop bleeding, but for a few days. This

severe depression lasts for about 3 weeks and then it suddenly disappears and I

feel like myself again, but it only lasts 4-5 days. This happens every

month and coincides with my menstruation.

I’ve tried YAZ, Seasonal, Depo-Provera, recently Progestin-only pills (not

helpful) and Tri-Norinyl. The Tri-Norinyl used to work fine and I was on

it for years. I would get this same type of depression for 1-2 days, as I

stopped bleeding. After some time, I went off the pills and wanted to see if

my cycle has regulated itself yet, since I was almost 30, plus I was

dealing with my non-stop abdominal pain and wanted to see if the pain would get

better if I was off the hormones. Once I went off it, some time went by, I

was still irregular, still had the abdominal pain and when I went back on

it, my PMS symptoms didn’t improve. So these pills no longer work for me.

So, my new Gynie is thinking of trying a small dose of testosterone (2mg a

day) to see if I feel better. My blood work shows that my testosterone

level is a bit low than what a woman should have. She said women who have my

type of symptoms have felt 100% better and had more energy and a increase in

libido. Side effects are: it can raise my cholesterol. Rare side effects

are: my voice could get deeper and I may notice a small increase in facial

hair.

The Estratest Pill is very hard to find, so I’m searching the net to see

where I can get it from. Anyone know where I can get it?

Is there any other woman here who has experienced this horrible PMS

depression/crying spells???

Are there other types of hormones or meds or supplements that has been

helpful to anyone?

Please help me! I can’t endure any more of this dreadful feeling I have

inside me all the time and eyes burn from crying for no reason!

Email me privately, if you feel more comfortable talking about this in

greater detail.

HELP ME PLEASE!!!

God Bless,

Meg W.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Thank you ladies for your helpful advice and for sharing your experiences with

me. About the estratest pills, I found the same caution of a cancer risk when I

researched it online last week.

However, the pharmacist from my gynie called me today and I agreed to try the

cream first. Since my testosterone level is a bit low, my new gynie and he will

be starting me at just 1mg testosterone cream. The estratest pills have other

hormones and some type of synthetic sodium mixture which carries the cancer

risk. The cream doesn’t carry the cancer risk because its pure testosterone.

And I asked him if I’ll be able to absorb it considering my experience with

patches. He said since I have skinny arms due to my small muscle mass, the best

place for me to rub the cream on is my wrists so that it goes into my

bloodstream better. He said most women do feel much better after they go on it

and he thinks I will to. He said it may not be the entire cause of my

depression/fatigue, but it certainly is contributing to it. So, next is getting

Medicaid to pay for it. If it doesn’t, I’ll pay because its not very

expensive. However, they just need prior authorization, so I hope they will

cover it.

I’m praying that this cream will work and help me feel better. I’ll let you

guys know what happens.

Enjoy your Memorial Day Weekend!

God Bless,

Meg W.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of althegrrl

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: HORMONES

Meg,

Estratest has major cancer warnings all over it. See web:

http://www.rxlist.com/estratest-drug.htm Estratest was supplied by a company

called Solvay. In March 2009 Solvay announced that, based on a variety of

business factors, it would discontinue supplying Estratest and Estratest HS

tablets, and would stop accepting orders for the product on March 31, 2009. It

is possible to get a generic version but demand is high and supply is low. Ask

your pharmacist about the generic version.

Alana

>

> TO ALL THE LADIES:

>

>

>

> Has any woman in the group ever been put on testosterone? A hormone pill/cream

called Estratest?

>

>

>

> I have been experiencing horrible PMS, and probably have PMDD. I have all the

symptoms. This PMS is killing me emotionally.

>

> I’ve been diagnosed with Depression (NOS) and Generalized Anxiety. So,

I am currently on Hydrocodone (325mg/10mg) for my abdominal and arm pain, an

antidepressant called Laxapro (20mg), Xanax (0.5mg, 3xday) for anxiety and

recently began Adderral (10mg in the AM, 5mg in late afternoon) to help with my

fatigue and help boost the effectiveness of the antidepressant. It has helped

with my abdominal pain and lessened my anxiety and has helped to raised my

energy level.

>

>

>

> The depression and crying spells are totally different than the type of

depression I take meds for. I can tell that its hormone-related.

>

> I’ve been struggling with reoccurring severe depression (crying spells)

each month. I feel great after I stop bleeding, but for a few days. This severe

depression lasts for about 3 weeks and then it suddenly disappears and I feel

like myself again, but it only lasts 4-5 days. This happens every month and

coincides with my menstruation.

>

>

>

> I’ve tried YAZ, Seasonal, Depo-Provera, recently Progestin-only pills

(not helpful) and Tri-Norinyl. The Tri-Norinyl used to work fine and I was on it

for years. I would get this same type of depression for 1-2 days, as I stopped

bleeding. After some time, I went off the pills and wanted to see if my cycle

has regulated itself yet, since I was almost 30, plus I was dealing with my

non-stop abdominal pain and wanted to see if the pain would get better if I was

off the hormones. Once I went off it, some time went by, I was still irregular,

still had the abdominal pain and when I went back on it, my PMS symptoms

didn’t improve. So these pills no longer work for me.

>

>

>

> So, my new Gynie is thinking of trying a small dose of testosterone (2mg a

day) to see if I feel better. My blood work shows that my testosterone level is

a bit low than what a woman should have. She said women who have my type of

symptoms have felt 100% better and had more energy and a increase in libido.

Side effects are: it can raise my cholesterol. Rare side effects are: my voice

could get deeper and I may notice a small increase in facial hair.

>

>

>

> The Estratest Pill is very hard to find, so I’m searching the net to

see where I can get it from. Anyone know where I can get it?

>

>

>

> Is there any other woman here who has experienced this horrible PMS

depression/crying spells???

>

>

>

> Are there other types of hormones or meds or supplements that has been helpful

to anyone?

>

>

>

> Please help me! I can’t endure any more of this dreadful feeling I have

inside me all the time and eyes burn from crying for no reason!

>

>

>

> Email me privately, if you feel more comfortable talking about this in greater

detail.

>

>

>

> HELP ME PLEASE!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> God Bless,

>

> Meg W.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good luck with it!

Lori

I am Bippy on Twitter.

________________________________

From: Maggie Witkowski <meg.w@...>

Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:00:59 PM

Subject: Re: HORMONES

Thank you ladies for your helpful advice and for sharing your experiences with

me. About the estratest pills, I found the same caution of a cancer risk when I

researched it online last week.

However, the pharmacist from my gynie called me today and I agreed to try the

cream first. Since my testosterone level is a bit low, my new gynie and he will

be starting me at just 1mg testosterone cream. The estratest pills have other

hormones and some type of synthetic sodium mixture which carries the cancer

risk. The cream doesn’t carry the cancer risk because its pure testosterone.

And I asked him if I’ll be able to absorb it considering my experience with

patches. He said since I have skinny arms due to my small muscle mass, the best

place for me to rub the cream on is my wrists so that it goes into my

bloodstream better. He said most women do feel much better after they go on it

and he thinks I will to. He said it may not be the entire cause of my

depression/fatigue, but it certainly is contributing to it. So, next is getting

Medicaid to pay for it. If it doesn’t, I’ll pay because its not very

expensive. However, they just need

prior authorization, so I hope they will cover it.

I’m praying that this cream will work and help me feel better. I’ll let you

guys know what happens.

Enjoy your Memorial Day Weekend!

God Bless,

Meg W.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of althegrrl

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:01 PM

Subject: Re: HORMONES

Meg,

Estratest has major cancer warnings all over it. See web:

http://www.rxlist.com/estratest-drug.htm Estratest was supplied by a company

called Solvay. In March 2009 Solvay announced that, based on a variety of

business factors, it would discontinue supplying Estratest and Estratest HS

tablets, and would stop accepting orders for the product on March 31, 2009. It

is possible to get a generic version but demand is high and supply is low. Ask

your pharmacist about the generic version.

Alana

>

> TO ALL THE LADIES:

>

>

>

> Has any woman in the group ever been put on testosterone? A hormone pill/cream

called Estratest?

>

>

>

> I have been experiencing horrible PMS, and probably have PMDD. I have all the

symptoms. This PMS is killing me emotionally.

>

> I’ve been diagnosed with Depression (NOS) and Generalized Anxiety. So,

I am currently on Hydrocodone (325mg/10mg) for my abdominal and arm pain, an

antidepressant called Laxapro (20mg), Xanax (0.5mg, 3xday) for anxiety and

recently began Adderral (10mg in the AM, 5mg in late afternoon) to help with my

fatigue and help boost the effectiveness of the antidepressant. It has helped

with my abdominal pain and lessened my anxiety and has helped to raised my

energy level.

>

>

>

> The depression and crying spells are totally different than the type of

depression I take meds for. I can tell that its hormone-related.

>

> I’ve been struggling with reoccurring severe depression (crying spells)

each month. I feel great after I stop bleeding, but for a few days. This severe

depression lasts for about 3 weeks and then it suddenly disappears and I feel

like myself again, but it only lasts 4-5 days. This happens every month and

coincides with my menstruation.

>

>

>

> I’ve tried YAZ, Seasonal, Depo-Provera, recently Progestin-only pills

(not helpful) and Tri-Norinyl. The Tri-Norinyl used to work fine and I was on it

for years. I would get this same type of depression for 1-2 days, as I stopped

bleeding. After some time, I went off the pills and wanted to see if my cycle

has regulated itself yet, since I was almost 30, plus I was dealing with my

non-stop abdominal pain and wanted to see if the pain would get better if I was

off the hormones. Once I went off it, some time went by, I was still irregular,

still had the abdominal pain and when I went back on it, my PMS symptoms

didn’t improve. So these pills no longer work for me.

>

>

>

> So, my new Gynie is thinking of trying a small dose of testosterone (2mg a

day) to see if I feel better. My blood work shows that my testosterone level is

a bit low than what a woman should have. She said women who have my type of

symptoms have felt 100% better and had more energy and a increase in libido.

Side effects are: it can raise my cholesterol. Rare side effects are: my voice

could get deeper and I may notice a small increase in facial hair.

>

>

>

> The Estratest Pill is very hard to find, so I’m searching the net to

see where I can get it from. Anyone know where I can get it?

>

>

>

> Is there any other woman here who has experienced this horrible PMS

depression/crying spells???

>

>

>

> Are there other types of hormones or meds or supplements that has been helpful

to anyone?

>

>

>

> Please help me! I can’t endure any more of this dreadful feeling I have

inside me all the time and eyes burn from crying for no reason!

>

>

>

> Email me privately, if you feel more comfortable talking about this in greater

detail.

>

>

>

> HELP ME PLEASE!!!

>

>

>

>

>

> God Bless,

>

> Meg W.

>

>

>

>

>

>