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Dear Carol,

I am so glad that you use the salutation " Dear " as I think it is

important to emphasize how close we humans should all be with one another.

Thank you for your nice note.

Stabilization of disease can be a pseudo stabilization. Cancer can

grow and dedifferentiate while it is also dying off. You can't just look at

the mass of a tumor. It can begin to round out and retract spiculations,

and this is usually good as it is an encapsulating behavior and the tumor is

becoming more cyst-like. If it has necrotic areas inside as so many tumors

do, then it can be well on its way to a form that is more anaerobic,

metastatic, more sarcoma-like, and in general, harder to deal with.

I have worked a lot with the Greek test. It is interesting, I don't

discourage it, but it does have many inadequacies. It is not a reliable

tool. Occasionally it will make a suggestion that proves useful.

I am not a fan of the alkalinizers nor of the ozonators. There are

thousands of such things available that are mediocre at best and this is

even when you use them in combination.

Treatment of bone mets depends on the type (clastic or blastic),

location, size, past treatments, co-morbid pathologies, etc. Treatments can

range from cementoplasty to transdermal gallium.

Sometime when you are in the Del Mar area, stop by the retreat center;

I have some ideas on how you can reverse cellular immune encumbrances.

Looking forward to your visit,

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Prem Carol

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:59 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Low Grade Cancers

Dear ,

This is excellent information. Thank you for confirming that IPT was a good

choice 4 years ago for wiping out the metastatic microscopic cells.

I have tested clear for all this time in all those areas, but in the past

year I have been dealing with a different diagnosis.

There have been small nodules/cavitating nodules in the lungs...found

accidentally at the bottom of the lungs during a routine CT. Then the whole

lung area was CT'd. Other nodules were there but extremely tiny.

I have tried many things over the past year.

First, they are so tiny (millimeters) that they cannot even be biopsied. On

the guess that it was connected to uterine cancer cells that had traveled

and remained dormant, slowly growing over this time, we first tried a course

of IPT. When the results were mixed and not that definitive, I stopped that

course and did Vit. C drips for 5 months. After which the results showed

very minimal but some tiny millimeter growth.

We then did the Greek Test and did another course of IPT, using different

drugs.

The results of the CT scan showed total stabilization....to the millimeter

of 4 months prior.

I am hoping that we destabilized any cancer that might have been in these

nodules, since no new growth usually is a good and positive sign.

Further, some of these nodules are cavitating nodules, which I have heard,

as long as they do not grow, could take years to disappear from " view " .

It has been suggested that I go back to a traditional pulmonologist for

their opinion, but I am extremely reluctant to face their energy field.

Also, last time they could only guess as well as to what it might be. I will

have to ponder whether I can get any more useful " information " from them

without imbibing their type of mentality.

Now I am doing Vit. C drips every 3 weeks and still using my amethyst biomat

daily (since 4 months ago). I am sure that has been very beneficial as well.

I know that my IPT doctor had already confirmed to me what you mentioned

about such small cells not uptaking that much chemo/sugar. However, it was

our best guess at the time to try and manifest a change and I decided to go

for it. So your discussion is very much in alignment with what I had

suspected.

And we are not even 100% sure what we have been dealing with, in any case.

But the Greek test did show how to kill the cancer cells, and I am sure it

did something positive...possibly stabilizing everything.

I am wondering if I should get a water ozonator to add that to my daily

regime and if so which one (the Hulda Portazone or another one?)....I

have an alkaline/ionizer water machine and try to drink a couple of glasses

of that inbetween meals when I can.

And of course upping all my extra immune ideas, etc.

If you have any thoughts at all to add to my current situation, I would be

most happy to hear them.

On another note, I know someone with metastatic breast cancer to the bone

who can hardly walk because of the pain. I am thinking of referring them to

your clinic. Have you had success with this type of situation?

Regarding the " reasons " people come to you, on a lighter note, hey, just

say, " Hallelujah " !!! (joking here). Could be a feather, a smile, a line of

music, anything can guide someone. Unless it brings up deeper problems while

being with you,and really gets in the way, hey, whatever works, wherever

people's " messages " come from!!!

And yes, isn't this the best place in San Diego to heal!!! We are so lucky

to live here.

In appreciation for you, your love and expertise that you share,

Carol

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When it comes to cancer , I personally would run away from the doctors out there

with all there drugs that do a lot more harm then good. Dr Leonard Coldwell has

a great website, radio shows and book

, Your Health Crusader

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From: Prem Carol

Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011

Dear ,

This is excellent information. Thank you for confirming that IPT was a good

choice 4 years ago for wiping out the metastatic microscopic cells.

I have tested clear for all this time in all those areas, but in the past year I

have been dealing with a different diagnosis.

There have been small nodules/cavitating nodules in the lungs...found

accidentally at the bottom of the lungs during a routine CT. Then the whole lung

area was CT'd. Other nodules were there but extremely tiny..........

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Dear ,

When diagnosed with breast cancer, stage II, I ran away from all western

doctors. I have an aggressive form of breast cancer (her2+) for which there is

a targeted treatment. When it spread to my lungs and bones; after a year of

trying natural protocols, I had no option but to try chemo and herceptin (a

monoclonal antibody, targeting her2+). Now a year later, I am cancer free and

feel better than I have in years. I was dying quickly and those doctors and

their drugs saved my life. As we know, all cancers are not created equal, and in

some cases chemo is not appropriate, it is something we all have to research. I

think people have to wisely assess their situation and not be dogmatic one way

or the other. There will never be a single bullet cure for cancer, not all

cancers are caused by the same mechanism/pathway. We need to know our options

and decide what we feel is best for us.

Wishing everyone health and smart decisions in 2011.

And thank you for being our health crusader, you are always appreciated.

Best wishes

Fern

From: gary williams

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011

When it comes to cancer , I personally would run away from the doctors out

there with all there drugs that do a lot more harm then good. Dr Leonard

Coldwell has a great website, radio shows and book

, Your Health Crusader

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Fern:

Most cancer is caused by way to much stress from our relationships , work, money

etc.

What I have studied over the years is that many people go the natural route ,

but don't realize that stress is really destroying our selves. By our

thoughts,we forge the weapons that by which we can destroy ourselves. We are

what we think.

I am so happy that you are cancer free, God Bless

Your Health Crusader

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From: Fern <fernsiman@...>

Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011

Dear ,

When diagnosed with breast cancer, stage II, I ran away from all western

doctors. I have an aggressive form of breast cancer (her2+) for which there is

a targeted treatment. When it spread to my lungs and bones; after a year of

trying natural protocols, I had no option but to try chemo and herceptin (a

monoclonal antibody, targeting her2+). Now a year later, I am cancer free and

feel better than I have in years. I was dying quickly and those doctors and

their drugs saved my life. As we know, all cancers are not created equal, and in

some cases chemo is not appropriate, it is something we all have to research. I

think people have to wisely assess their situation and not be dogmatic one way

or the other. There will never be a single bullet cure for cancer, not all

cancers are caused by the same mechanism/pathway. We need to know our options

and decide what we feel is best for us.

Wishing everyone health and smart decisions in 2011.

And thank you for being our health crusader, you are always appreciated.

Best wishes

Fern

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Great advice, our thoughts , spiritual path is extremely important in healing

Your Health Crusader

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From: melizzard11

Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011

--- " Gammill " <vgammill> wrote:

> Last week a program participant came to me and told me that Jesus brought

> them to me. This is so unnerving.

> What am I supposed to say: " Yes, my son, Jesus sends me many referrals, " or

> do I ask, " Have you been smoking your teenager's cigarettes? " I haven't

> thought of picking a God for a while, but the sun god is high on my list.

> There is no question that it was the Sun that brought me to coastal Southern

> California. At our retreat center we have two solaria for performing our

> divine prostrations.

>

C'mon . Just because you don't believe in spirituality, doesn't mean

none of us do. I have read so many posts by you, bashing spirituality, and I

have remained silent. Why you even interjected this story into a post about IPT

is beyond me.

Honestly, it's the spiritual path that is keeping me strong, no matter what. To

ignore the spiritual side of your humanity is, in my opinion, leaving the eggs

out of the cake mix. We are body, mind, and spirit ... to ignore any of those

can have consequences.

But it's your choice to make. It is not my personal choice and I, for one,

would appreciate it if you would keep your spiritual intolerance, and your

mockery of us who believe, to yourself or post on some atheistic list somewhere.

For many of us, the spiritual is the only thing keeping us here. For me, the

spiritual path is my primary treatment these days after trying damn near

everything else ... even your retreat. And I'm stronger than I've been in

years.

I'm just sayin' ... totally disrespectful of other's beliefs and treatment

choices ... and especially with a life and death issue, IMO.

xxoo

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I agree--I'm a qigong guy and always practice outside, weather permitting. It

gives one an appreciation for Creation--and whatever creative force is behind

it. What that is I don't know. But we are more than flesh-and-blood machines.

Sometimes all that one has left is the human spirit, and that can't be just a

manifestation of muscle and sinew. There's something more.

> Last week a program participant came to me and told me that Jesus brought

> them to me. This is so unnerving.

> What am I supposed to say: " Yes, my son, Jesus sends me many referrals, " or

> do I ask, " Have you been smoking your teenager's cigarettes? " I haven't

> thought of picking a God for a while, but the sun god is high on my list.

> There is no question that it was the Sun that brought me to coastal Southern

> California. At our retreat center we have two solaria for performing our

> divine prostrations.

>

C'mon . Just because you don't believe in spirituality, doesn't mean

none of us do. I have read so many posts by you, bashing spirituality, and I

have remained silent. Why you even interjected this story into a post about IPT

is beyond me.

Honestly, it's the spiritual path that is keeping me strong, no matter what. To

ignore the spiritual side of your humanity is, in my opinion, leaving the eggs

out of the cake mix. We are body, mind, and spirit ... to ignore any of those

can have consequences.

But it's your choice to make. It is not my personal choice and I, for one,

would appreciate it if you would keep your spiritual intolerance, and your

mockery of us who believe, to yourself or post on some atheistic list somewhere.

For many of us, the spiritual is the only thing keeping us here. For me, the

spiritual path is my primary treatment these days after trying damn near

everything else ... even your retreat. And I'm stronger than I've been in

years.

I'm just sayin' ... totally disrespectful of other's beliefs and treatment

choices ... and especially with a life and death issue, IMO.

xxoo

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Hi ,

I agree VGammill should respect the fact some people believe in Gods/Lords and

such but by the same token we should respect the fact that VGammill is an

anti-Christianist. When we do that we can relegate his statements to where they

belong...ahem.

I believe a person can be spiritual without having to attach a deity to it. I

also believe even VGammill would have to agree we have an energy body [i.e.

spiritual body] otherwise many of his diagnostic instruments would not work.

If anyone questions the existence of a spiritual body I would recommend

reading...Consciousness Beyond Life--The Science of the Near-Death Experience by

Prim van Lommel M.D.

I agree with PierreTeilhard de Chardin----We are not human beings having a

spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience.

;)

Sandy

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I am not anti-Christian or anti much of anything except intolerance and this

even includes tolerance. Tolerance is just a mild, and sugar-coated form of

intolerance. Tolerance has an odor of superciliousness to it. Tolerance is

implicitly allowing, perhaps grudgingly, the right of others to breathe a

few molecules of the same air, at least for a while. Perhaps tolerance is a

stepping stone to wean people from intolerance, and I can understand this.

Again, the opposite of intolerance is not tolerance; it is magnanimity,

which is the most praiseworthy of all virtues. If everyone's prayerbook had

just that one word " Magnanimity " we'd soon have a much better world.

The Center has been slow this week. If we have any preachers on the list I

can be hired to write a sermon.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of melizzard11

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:06 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Low Grade Cancers

I agree, Sandy ... and I have been reading this for the past four years

without comment. :) Just had to say it. I do respect where is coming

from. I don't agree with it. But I don't bash his beliefs, or lack of, at

all. He's entitled to them. Without blatant denigration. Seems that everyone

wants Christians to be tolerant of their beliefs, but God forbid we should

talk about ours! LOL

xoo

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I do really well with Jehovah's Witnesses. It is a religion that might seem

way out there to many people, but they tend to do exceptionally well when

fighting cancer. Common factors that seem to help them include:

--A powerful, powerful sense of community

--A healthy lifestyle

--A sense of humor. They all seem to enjoy the great sport of trying to

convert me. I would tell them that there is no way in hell that I would

ever become a Witness, unless I got cancer and then I would race to the

nearest Kingdom Hall..!!!

Well I did get cancer, I didn't sign up to become a Witness, but I sure

practiced what I learned from them about the value of community. It had

always been my nature to help others but rarely accept help from others.

Actually this seems to be a fairly common trait among people with cancer. I

rounded up all my communities: medical science, local cancer patients who

have done my program, my family, and through my wife the judicial community.

There was also the cheerleading from my Cancercured acquaintances. Many

offered intercessory prayers. As everyone on this list knows, all such kind

thoughts buoy the spirit.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of melizzard11

Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:29 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Low Grade Cancers

OK, tolerance .... magnanimity ... whatever. Either way, everyone here

should be able to express their beliefs without any fear that they will be

ridiculed for them. :)

xxoo

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www.natural-oncology.org <http://www.natural-oncology.org/>

I think I have a list of some of the seminars on the site (The Mango Retreat

Program). Treatments vary widely because no two cancer patients are alike.

We are located in Del Mar, California, a coastal suburb of San Diego. If

you are in the area, come by and say Hi. This goes for anyone on the list.

I call it the Mango Program because it is on Mango Drive, not because of any

therapy.

858-922-7410

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of gary williams

Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:11 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Low Grade Cancers

:

Send me back some info on your health center,

Healing thru natural supplements or drugs, where are you

located , website etc.

Thanks so much

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