Re: How Cleansing Cures Cancer: One Woman's Story

November 25, 2009

Another proof of the power of a raw food vegan diet to fight cancer.

My wife used this type of Nutrition ( vegetarianm mostly raw) to beat her breast

cancer and this is exactly the protocol that we still follow. Wholefood and

organic. The fact that this lady in the interview decided to leave her husband

was also very important for her type of cancer. See the work of Dr Hamer and the

New German Medicine.We help now patients with diabetes, coronary heart disease

and cancer with a mostly raw vegan diet : see why and how at :

http://www.coeurdelion.org/flora1/

A great book on raw food to fight cancer " Senior Fitness " by Ruth Heidrich now

a 75 years old triathlon Athlete. Ruth Heidrich has the bone mass density of a

woman in her early thirties and a resting heart rate of 44. Not only that, but

she has survived breast cancer since she was 49.Blood Pressure 90/60

See

:http://www.amazon.com/Senior-Fitness-Exercise-Program-Longevity/dp/1590560744/r\

ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1259160536 & sr=8-1

>

> How Cleansing Cures Cancer: One Woman's Story

> The relationship between unhealthy eating and the development of disease

> is undeniable. When most people get a cancer diagnosis their doctors are

> quick to prescribe drugs and harsh treatments such as radiation,

> chemotherapy, and surgery....

> http://www.naturalnews.com/027242_cancer_cleansing_health.html

>

November 25, 2009

A cautionary tale:

I was a RAW FOOD VEGETARIAN for seven years prior to my cancer diagnosis. This

diet, though being fabulous, did NOT keep me from developing cancer.

Be smart when determining how you will fight your cancer and realize that not

all treatments work for everyone. Putting all your eggs in one basket won't do

anyone any good - especially you.

If the raw food vegetarian diet worked for everyone, then we would have never

met because I never would have developed cancer.

ar

> >

> > How Cleansing Cures Cancer: One Woman's Story

> > The relationship between unhealthy eating and the development of disease

> > is undeniable. When most people get a cancer diagnosis their doctors are

> > quick to prescribe drugs and harsh treatments such as radiation,

> > chemotherapy, and surgery....

> > http://www.naturalnews.com/027242_cancer_cleansing_health.html

> >

>

November 27, 2009

Did you eat 100 percent raw with no white sugar or artificial sweeteners?

> > >

> > > How Cleansing Cures Cancer: One Woman's Story

> > > The relationship between unhealthy eating and the development of disease

> > > is undeniable. When most people get a cancer diagnosis their doctors are

> > > quick to prescribe drugs and harsh treatments such as radiation,

> > > chemotherapy, and surgery....

> > > http://www.naturalnews.com/027242_cancer_cleansing_health.html

> > >

> >

>

November 27, 2009

This was over a seven year period. My diet varied depending on my situation and

where I was living at the time. I averaged 95% raw, never used artificial

sweetners, ever. Three years solid without white sugar.

>

> Did you eat 100 percent raw with no white sugar or artificial sweeteners?

November 28, 2009

I believe personally many of us beat ourselves up after being dianozed with

cancer. I had a very poor diet before finding out I had Melanoma of the left

eye. I thought perhaps chemicals I used in my work did it, many believe

overexposure to the sun causes it.I believed the label my DRs gave me about this

cancer. That was my first mistake, LIVING IN FEAR. . While I am now a vegan, I

havent seen a case where diet alone has cured the type cancer I have Other types

YES. That said I believe a mostly raw veg diet will keep my immune system strong

reducing the risk of mets elsewhere. I have read where stress alone can be more

damaging then diet when it comes to weakening the immune system.

The main thing is we don't dwell on the past, but change our daily lives for

the better each day. Attitude is everything with cancer as it programs our minds

which in turn affect our cells. Its very mis understood the Power of the Mind. I

know for a fact just how great I feel eating well for the first time in my life.

I would continue my present course regardless if it was proven it would not

improve my Mets risk. I forgot what it felt like to feel GOOD! Life is a gift,

from the minute were born we begin to die.Our time is limited Make the best of

what time we have hear, each minute is precious!

A poem I try to live by..

I will not die an unlived life

I will not live in fear

Of falling or catching on fire,

I choose to inhabit my days

to allow my living to open me,

To make me less afraid

More accessible,

To loosen my heart

Until it becomes a wing,

A torch, a promise

I choose to risk my significance,

To Live

So that which came to me as seed goes to the next as blossom

And that which came to me as blossom, goes on as fruit

All the best,

Mike M

November 28, 2009

About raw food and cancer.

You said you were raw foodist vegetarian. I am curious .. Did you ate soya

products ? Milk products ? Was your diet all organic ?

Thanks

" arlynsg " wrote:

A cautionary tale:

I was a RAW FOOD VEGETARIAN for seven years prior to my cancer diagnosis. This

diet, though being fabulous, did NOT keep me from developing cancer.

November 28, 2009

I haven't touched soy products in over 20 years. I went three years solid

without dairy. The items I ate a lot of were organic.

ar

>

> About raw food and cancer.

>

> You said you were raw foodist vegetarian. I am curious .. Did you ate soya

products ? Milk products ? Was your diet all organic ?

November 28, 2009

Soy can cause estrogen dominance or at least add to it.

Cheri

>

> A cautionary tale:

>

> I was a RAW FOOD VEGETARIAN for seven years prior to my cancer diagnosis.

> This diet, though being fabulous, did NOT keep me from developing cancer.

>

November 28, 2009

Ray,

That IS interesting about soy. I'm severely allergic to it, so I never eat it.

But for breast cancer, isoflavens are generally regarded as bad.

ar

>

> A cautionary tale:

>

> I was a RAW FOOD VEGETARIAN for seven years prior to my cancer diagnosis.

> This diet, though being fabulous, did NOT keep me from developing cancer.

>

November 28, 2009

" cheri wrote:

> Soy can cause estrogen dominance or at least add to it.

>

Cheri years ago I would have said you're right but I don't know now. With men it

simply means that we have too much estrogens in our system compared to the

normal amounts. A simple blood test will find out for sure. I do know people

have been having soy for thousands of years with out any harm. I once thought it

was only woman that get these symptoms. I must admit I do have the Dry eyes,

Memory loss, foggy thinking, from time to time but hey I'm 57. I'm old, yet I

feel better then I've felt in Years, so tell me what can you do.

And what else have you heard about this? cheers, Ray

What are symptoms of estrogens dominance?

Here's a LIST of oestrogen dominance symptoms women:

.. Allergy symptoms

.. Breast cancer

.. Breast tenderness

.. Cold hands and feet

.. Decreased sex drive

.. Mood swings

.. Dry eyes

<http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/signs-of-depression.html>

Depression, anxiety, irritability

.. Fatigue

.. Fibrocystic breasts

.. Increase risk of strokes

.. Irregular menstrual periods

.. Headaches

.. Hypoglycaemia

.. Insomnia

.. Slow metabolism

<http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/infertility.html>

Infertility

.. PMS

.. Zinc deficiency

.. Osteoporosis

.. Uterine fibroids

.. Uterine cancer

.. Water retention, bloating

.. Weight gain

.. Hair loss

.. Acceleration of the aging process

.. Fat gain around hips and thighs

.. Polycystic ovaries

.. Endometrial cancer

.. Memory loss, foggy thinking

.. Thyroid dysfunction

.. Magnesium deficiency

.. Gallbladder disease

.. Unstable blood sugar

.. Cervical dysplasia

.. Prostate cancer

.. Ovarian cancer

According to Dr. R. Lee and Dr. Norman Shealy, experiencing oestrogen

dominance symptoms and premenopause symptoms women simply means that

you have too much oestrogen in your system compared to the normal amounts of

progesterone needed to oppose or balance it.

November 29, 2009

Hi Ray,

There is simply no way to figure out if my diet slowed my cancer down. Some

days I firmly believe that it did. And other days, I believe that it didn't.

I didn't have cancer when I started the diet, so the amount of fruit I ate has

no bearing on my cancer. In other words, if I had gone on the diet to fight

cancer, I would not have eaten as much fruit.

I'm not a big lover of fruit, so my fruit consumption was limited to one fruit

smoothie a day. Generally, two bananas and something else - oranges,

strawberries, etc.

I ate two salads a day along with the smoothie.

ar

>

> Arlynsg you I know you said that you had Raw food for seven years prior to

> your cancer diagnosis. Can you please tell me what was in your diet I'm

> asking this because I read that sugar can feed cancer but I've also read

> that fruit sugar is one of the worst simple sugars when it comes to cancer

> I know you said you that it did NOT keep me from developing cancer. Do you

> think it slowed it down a bit? Ray

November 29, 2009

Ray, that wasn't me that said you had made a mistake. That was someone else.

For breast cancer that is fueled by estrogen, the goal is to not put any more

estrogen into the body as we are busy trying to deal with the estrogen that is

happening all on its own. Flax seeds, however, are the right kind of

phytoestrogen, though, some people will avoid them as well.

Soy is also a known thyroid inhibitor. Soy is far from being a health food.

Now, miso and tempeh are fermented and they are better than other types of soy.

As to your other post about the Asians having lower hormone cancer rates because

of their use of soy, well, that's bunk. People like to try to point a finger at

ONE thing and say it is the reason for this or that. However, they are

generally incomplete in their hypothesis. The Asians have lower hormone cancer

rates probably because they don't eat as much beef and chicken loaded with

hormones. They also eat a generally better diet than the western diet. Their

soy consumption is actually moderate - and fermented. However, their iodine

consumption through fish is large. I suggest you look at the role iodine plays

in preventing cancer before believing that it is all due to soy that is saving

them. By the way, their rates of hormone cancer have increased since their

diets have started to include fast food. Go figure.

No one here has told you to stop eating soy. I would suggest you don't need to

fight so hard to continue eating it. You can do whatever you want. But for

those of us with breast cancer, we'll probably continue to avoid it.

ar

>

> Sorry ar I haven't made a mistake. There are four isoflavones in soy the

> isoflavones that mimics Estrogen is Genistein it prevents the estrogen from

> binding to it cancer receptor site by taking its place. and the

> isoflavones that mimics testosterone is 17B-Estradiol it also prevents the

> testosterone from binding to it cancer receptor site by taking its place

> cheers Ray

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of joe dennis

> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 4:34 PM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: How Cleansing Cures Cancer: One Woman's Story

>

> I believe you have made a mistake soya is an estrogen mimicer ,not

> testosterone .

November 29, 2009

I hope know one following this diet is eating any soy products. Soy is one of

the most geneticly motified grops along with the following

High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium,

copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary

preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High

phytate diets have caused growth problems in children.

Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause

pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused

stunted growth.

Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause

infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.

Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and

may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked

to autoimmune thyroid disease.

Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body's

requirement for B12.

Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.

Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy

protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.

Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and

highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.

Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food

processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.

Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system

and the kidneys.

Blessings to all, Vicki

>

> A cautionary tale:

>

> I was a RAW FOOD VEGETARIAN for seven years prior to my cancer diagnosis.

> This diet, though being fabulous, did NOT keep me from developing cancer.

>

November 29, 2009

For those prone to estrogen domainance soy is bad. Thanks to BC which drs say is

totally safe I am one. For women (and prolly men) you can take calcium d

glucarate to remove excess estrogen.

Cheri.

> > Soy can cause estrogen dominance or at least add to it.

> >

>

> Cheri years ago I would have said you're right but I don't know now. With men

it simply means that we have too much estrogens in our system compared to the

normal amounts. A simple blood test will find out for sure. I do know people

have been having soy for thousands of years with out any harm. I once thought it

was only woman that get these symptoms. I must admit I do have the Dry eyes,

Memory loss, foggy thinking, from time to time but hey I'm 57. I'm old, yet I

feel better then I've felt in Years, so tell me what can you do.

> And what else have you heard about this? cheers, Ray

>

> What are symptoms of estrogens dominance?

> Here's a LIST of oestrogen dominance symptoms women:

>

> . Allergy symptoms

> . Breast cancer

> . Breast tenderness

> . Cold hands and feet

> . Decreased sex drive

> . Mood swings

> . Dry eyes

> <http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/signs-of-depression.html>

> Depression, anxiety, irritability

> . Fatigue

> . Fibrocystic breasts

> . Increase risk of strokes

> . Irregular menstrual periods

> . Headaches

> . Hypoglycaemia

> . Insomnia

> . Slow metabolism

>

> <http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/infertility.html>

>

> Infertility

> . PMS

> . Zinc deficiency

> . Osteoporosis

> . Uterine fibroids

> . Uterine cancer

> . Water retention, bloating

> . Weight gain

> . Hair loss

> . Acceleration of the aging process

> . Fat gain around hips and thighs

> . Polycystic ovaries

> . Endometrial cancer

> . Memory loss, foggy thinking

> . Thyroid dysfunction

> . Magnesium deficiency

> . Gallbladder disease

> . Unstable blood sugar

> . Cervical dysplasia

> . Prostate cancer

> . Ovarian cancer

>

> According to Dr. R. Lee and Dr. Norman Shealy, experiencing oestrogen

> dominance symptoms and premenopause symptoms women simply means that

> you have too much oestrogen in your system compared to the normal amounts of

> progesterone needed to oppose or balance it.

>

November 29, 2009

Ray,

By Googling the key words, you can read many articles about soy being

genetically modified and the health problems associated with that. However, it

probably wasn't happening much when your daughter was a baby. It has happened

more in the last ten years.

Here's a link to an article you can read about not only soy but other

genetically modified crops. http://www.soyinfo.com/haz/gehaz.shtml

Jan

" rjcrossley " wrote:

>

> Vicki where did you get this from. With what your saying I've been on soy

> milk for two years now, I feel better then I felt in years with what you

> saying I cant under stand why my youngest daughter did not die. When she

> was a baby, form all the soy she had. You see years ago I lost one of my

> business, and around the same time we had a little girl. The strain of the

> lost one of my business and a new baby was terribly on my wife and I. Then

> when my wife breast milk stoped. (my daughter was just two month old at the

> time ). We found my daughter could not have formula or milk. So my wife feed

> her on soy milk. It look to me like it did her no harm. She grow up to be

> a find young lady She was married three years ago. last year they decide to

> have a baby. She had a little boy he's 6 weeks old. On Friday. His birth

> weight was 9.3lb. My grand son and my daughter look healthy to me. What I'm

> saying is, over the many years since the soy milk. Seem to have no ill

> effect on my daughter, or my grandson, or me. So where dos this research

> come from. Ray

>

> From: ohlyvicki

>

> I hope know one following this diet is eating any soy products. Soy is one

> of the most geneticly motified grops along with the following

> High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium,

> copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary

> preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High

> phytate diets have caused growth problems in children.

> Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause

> pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors

> caused stunted growth.

> Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to

> cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.

> Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism

> and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has

> been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.

> Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body's

> requirement for B12.

> Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.

> Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make

> soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.

> Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine

> and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines.

> Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food

> processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.

> Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous

> system and the kidneys.

> Blessings to all, Vicki

>

November 29, 2009

I think that if you have found something that is working for you, then stick to

it!

I believe that fruit may cause problems for hormone driven cancers. I do not

have any proof of it, of course, it's just a suspicion that I have. I do not

think that eating lots of fruit will cause cancer. And I also don't think it

has to do with the sugar. I feel there is something going on with hormones and

fruit. But I have no scientific proof. And fruit really is so good for you...

ar

>

> Hi and Thank you arlynsg, for your reply The reason I am asking about

> fruit in ones diet is. I have advance prostate cancer, I also have hi amount

> of vitamin and mineral supplements in my diet. The main one is 6 grams of

> vitamin C spread out though out the day. But I found in the pass no mater

> what I did , when ever I have any sugary foods bread or fruit my prostrate

> would play up, and I would get urine retention, when I went off the sugary

> foods, the wheat products and the fruit, it would get better, is this the

> same for you Ray

>

> _____

>

> From: arlynsg

> Sent: Sunday, November 29,

>

> Hi Ray,

>

> There is simply no way to figure out if my diet slowed my cancer down. Some

> days I firmly believe that it did. And other days, I believe that it didn't.

>

> I didn't have cancer when I started the diet, so the amount of fruit I ate

> has no bearing on my cancer. In other words, if I had gone on the diet to

> fight cancer, I would not have eaten as much fruit.

>

> I'm not a big lover of fruit, so my fruit consumption was limited to one

> fruit smoothie a day. Generally, two bananas and something else - oranges,

> strawberries, etc.

>

> I ate two salads a day along with the smoothie.

>

> ar

>

November 29, 2009

Ray,

If you find something that works for you, then great. But isoflavens are not

that great for breast cancer. I don't know why soy would be good for one type

of hormone cancer and not good for another. I'm just not that familar with the

male anatomy to create an answer.

I have yet to find any doctor, ND, etc, who will tell a woman to eat soy for

breast cancer. Flax seeds, yes, soy, no.

ar

>

> Sorry ar being new to this group, I'm not use to these post, I should have

> notice, I think it was from Joe Dennis still cant under stand why

> isoflavones are not used, I take an extract my doctor told me about it

> called Trinovin it made from red clover each 40mg tablet contains trifolium

> pratense extract equivalent to dry herb 2.5 standardised to isoflavones 40mg

> I read about a research doctor with prostate cancer who was doing research

> on red clover he was due to have his prostrate out in the following two

> weeks so he started taking 4 x 40mg of red clover extract he ask for and

> other researcher to have a look at his prostate the researcher found that

> the cancer in his prostate had reduce by half. This is why I went on it I

> sill say if it works for prostate cancer why dos it not work for breast

> cancer. All the best Ray

>

> From: arlynsg

>

> Ray, that wasn't me that said you had made a mistake. That was someone

else..........

>

November 29, 2009

I agree totally with this statement

:

" I have yet to find any doctor, ND, etc, who will tell a woman to eat soy for

breast cancer. Flax seeds, yes, soy, no. "

One of the main reason of Soya being a dangerous product for cancer patient is

the Insuline like growth factor 1.

see this video to understand why :

http://www.jmbblog.com/why-to-go-organic-and-eat-fresh-foods/

The movie is at the bottom of the article :

" Why to go organic and eat fresh foods ? "

November 29, 2009

Hi Ray, there are many sources out there dispelling the myths of soy.

Here are a few

http://www.naturalhealthstrategies.com/dangers-of-soy.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtsoy.html

I am glad your family has suffered no ill effects.

Vicki