Re: Re[2]: Re: Huge benefits of whey isolate for fighting cancer

[Guest guest]

Here is what Health Ranger Mike has to say about the various forms of

milk:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060629123234.htm

He gives thumbs down to soy milk and pasteurized milk, thumbs up to raw milk

and kefir.

I am making my own cottage cheese and kefir from raw milk.

I had a stool test done that showed ZERO lactobacillus and e. coli in my

stool, with small-moderate amounts of bifidobacterium. I also had high

levels of klebsiella pneumonia.

So I need the good bacteria.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Mike Golden <goldenmike@...>wrote:

> Hello Dana,

>

> No. When cream sperates from the rest of the milk it is because it

> has not been homogenized. The cream is the fat. The rest of the

> milk contains what would become the curds and the whey if it were

> treated to cause another seperation.

> Also drinking milk, in my opinion, is a big no-no when you have

> cancer. It does not matter whether it is raw or not. A little goat's

> milk is probably not so bad. Cottage cheese blended with flax oil is

> an exception to the anti-dairy thing.

>

> Mike

>

[Guest guest]

Having done this for 15 years, I believe the milk sugars feed all tumors.

Also, doing a food allergy test will determine if you can handle goat milk or

not. If your body had hidden inflammation, then you will be in trouble, period.

Johanne

From: Mike Golden

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:53 PM

Dana Herbert

Subject: Re[2]: [ ] Re: Huge benefits of whey isolate for fighting

cancer

Hello Dana,

No. When cream sperates from the rest of the milk it is because it

has not been homogenized. The cream is the fat. The rest of the

milk contains what would become the curds and the whey if it were

treated to cause another seperation.

Also drinking milk, in my opinion, is a big no-no when you have

cancer. It does not matter whether it is raw or not. A little goat's

milk is probably not so bad. Cottage cheese blended with flax oil is

an exception to the anti-dairy thing.

Mike

Monday, February 16, 2009, 10:34:14 PM, you wrote:

DH> Isn't whey the same thing that you get when you buy raw milk and the cream

DH> separates to the top, and leaves the whey on the bottom?

DH> Why is it that some alt. cancer treatments use the whey, and others the raw

DH> cream and butter (discarding the whey)?

DH> Can't you just drink two glasses of raw milk a day and get the benefits of

DH> both, without taking in too much casein?

--

Best regards,

Mike mailto:goldenmike@...

[Guest guest]

Yes you probably need the good bacteria but the underlying cause is the most

important.

Why is there no good bacteria?

Do you have a hurt digestive system? If so, what are you doing to repair it?

Simply taking good bacteria will not remedy the situation.

Johanne

From: Dana Herbert

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:55 PM

Subject: Re: Re[2]: [ ] Re: Huge benefits of whey isolate for fighting

cancer

Here is what Health Ranger Mike has to say about the various forms of

milk:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/060629123234.htm

He gives thumbs down to soy milk and pasteurized milk, thumbs up to raw milk

and kefir.

I am making my own cottage cheese and kefir from raw milk.

I had a stool test done that showed ZERO lactobacillus and e. coli in my

stool, with small-moderate amounts of bifidobacterium. I also had high

levels of klebsiella pneumonia.

So I need the good bacteria.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Mike Golden <goldenmike@...>wrote:

> Hello Dana,

>

> No. When cream sperates from the rest of the milk it is because it

> has not been homogenized. The cream is the fat. The rest of the

> milk contains what would become the curds and the whey if it were

> treated to cause another seperation.

> Also drinking milk, in my opinion, is a big no-no when you have

> cancer. It does not matter whether it is raw or not. A little goat's

> milk is probably not so bad. Cottage cheese blended with flax oil is

> an exception to the anti-dairy thing.

>

> Mike

>

[Guest guest]

I have good levels of bifidobacterium but NO lactobacillus, which is

associated with converting lactose to into other sugars and lactic acid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus

I am not sure what this means.

This stool test was done in 2002, right after I got all of my mercury

fillings out (and my appendix was removed due to mercury fillings in my

appendix after I swallowed some broken fillings) and also right about the

time I quit taking meds for ADD . . . . a lot of antidepressants and

amphetamines.

It is also about this time that I went 100% organic.

I have not done a stool test since then.

This report says that there is no increased risk of lymphoma with RAW milk:

http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/life_sciences/report-33553.html

The medical literature claims that milk (I'm pretty sure they are talking

about PASTEURIZED milk) is ONLY associated with an increased risk of

hematological malignancies (and no other malignancies, ie, breast cancer?):

http://tinyurl.com/djuar9*

*But there is no increased risk related to protein.

My guess is that it is the pesticides and other toxins in the milk from

grain fed, commercial and pasteurized dairy:

http://tinyurl.com/d8w869

Johanne Wayne wrote:

Yes you probably need the good bacteria but the underlying cause is the most

important. Why is there no good bacteria?

> Do you have a hurt digestive system? If so, what are you doing to repair it?

Simply taking good bacteria will not remedy the situation.

[Guest guest]

Another interesting thing is that coffee consumption has in inverse

relationship to lymphoma. And I do drink coffee every day. If I don't I get

nasty migraines. Until I switched to raw milk a couple of months ago, I was

using commercial, pasteurized half and half in my coffee. Now I use raw milk

and my migraines have become less frequent.

There is no increased lymphoma related to yogurt intake, and the organic

farm where I buy my raw milk is now making raw milk yogurt, and I bought

some today.

So my thoughts are to keep my raw milk consumption down to less than two

glasses per day (including what I use in my coffee) and make my own cottage

cheese for my FO/CC from raw milk.

I get a lot of vitamin D from the sun (have been for the last 5 or 6 years)

and juice a lot of carrots (beta carotene has an inverse relationship with

lymphoma and has a lot of calcium), so I will experiment with eliminating

dairy completely from my diet and then alternating that with using raw milk

and see what happens . . . .

I have been eating just about everything on Leonard's list for the last five

or six years and my bone lesions with root resorption) have been there for

ten years (and much better today), so I don't want to mess myself up now.

But there is also an inverse relationship between vitamin D and linoleic

acid and lymphoma, and raw milk contains five times more CLA than

pasteurized milk.

Also, one of those reports says that there is an increased risk of lymphoma

with the more supplements you take, so I want to keep my supplements down to

a minimum.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Dana Herbert <danaherbert@...> wrote:

> I have good levels of bifidobacterium but NO lactobacillus, which is

> associated with converting lactose to into other sugars and lactic acid:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactobacillus

>

> I am not sure what this means.

>

> This stool test was done in 2002, right after I got all of my mercury

> fillings out (and my appendix was removed due to mercury fillings in my

> appendix after I swallowed some broken fillings) and also right about the

> time I quit taking meds for ADD . . . . a lot of antidepressants and

> amphetamines.

>

> It is also about this time that I went 100% organic.

>

> I have not done a stool test since then.

>

> This report says that there is no increased risk of lymphoma with RAW milk:

>

> http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/life_sciences/report-33553.html

>

> The medical literature claims that milk (I'm pretty sure they are talking

> about PASTEURIZED milk) is ONLY associated with an increased risk of

> hematological malignancies (and no other malignancies, ie, breast cancer?):

>

> http://tinyurl.com/djuar9*

>

> *But there is no increased risk related to protein.

>

> My guess is that it is the pesticides and other toxins in the milk from

> grain fed, commercial and pasteurized dairy:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/d8w869

[Guest guest]

And don't forget, mercury is an anti-bacterial.

Maybe it was all that mercury in my mouth and my appendix that wiped out the

good bacteria.