Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thank you so much for posting this. I have been so worried about my liver especially after getting to see my CT scan about a month ago where it showed my liver was/is enlarged. I have a discomfort on my right side and every time I " try " to lay on my right side I think about that CT scan. I am also battling ovarian cancer at this time and this just gives me one more tool to try to rid myself of this hideous disease. Thanks again for posting. Marg > > Hi All, > > Bill 's latest Cancer Free Newsletter had this in it from Dr. > about doing a castor oil pack for liver cleansing. (see below) > > Would this really work? How many days would we apply the castor oil pack? ~ > Thanks for your thoughts! > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Excerpt from Newsletter: " I was also intrigued by a conversation I had the > other day with Dr. , M.D., the wonderful holistic healer. He > told me he always recommends his cancer patients (and those with other > degenerative conditions) use a " castor oil pack. " > > When I asked him why, he explained that he has found the primary reason that > people die of cancer and other diseases is " liver toxemia. " This simply > means an overload of the liver's ability to cleanse the blood. He said that > doctors are not trained to look for toxemia as an effect of cancer and other > diseases. They simply only consider it when there is some poison > accidentally swallowed. Then, they are trained to get it out with induced > vomiting, etc. But they get no training ever about toxemia and its relation > to chronic degenerative conditions like cancer. Dr. is convinced, and > I certainly agree with him now, that cancer deaths are simply a result of > liver toxemia. This is the result of the toxins our body gets from dental > work and our food combined with the heavy toxin load produced by the cancer, > the weakening of our immune system by stress, etc. " > > " The castor oil pack, which is quite simple, is a great way to cleanse the > liver with an external " poultice. " You simply soak a piece of cotton (a > t-shirt works fine) in castor oil and put it on the skin over the liver > (lower right abdomen) and wrap saran wrap around it to control the dripping. > You then start with 2 or 3 hours and work up to where you can keep it on all > night. The castor oil will draw the toxins out of the liver through the > skin. Incredible!! I had just read about this same healing treatment in the > " Save Your Life Course " as one of the most common things Dr. Schulze used to > heal his " terminal " patients. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I could never quite understand the rationale behind " The Sleeping Prophet " Edgar Cayce's caster oil packs. I have heard that it serves to detox the liver, but of what? How? Anyone who takes it seriously surely would analyze the oil afterwards to see what was taken up. I visited the website: http://www.choosing-natural-health.com/castor-oil.html and looked at the claims: Alcoholism Allergies Animal bites and stings Arthritis Calcium Deposits Cancer Pain Cuts and abrasions Cysts and tumors Drug Overdose Ear and Nail Problems Epilepsy Eye Irritation Flu Hair Growth Injuries to head, legs, ankles, back, fingers Knee Pain Lesions (with camphorated oil) Nausea Palpitations Pigmented Mole, Warts Punctures Relief From Suffering Skin Cancer Snoring Sprains Wound Healing If this were true then a general practitioner could spend day after day, weeks on end, prescribing nothing more than caster oil packs. I find it particularly fascinating that Cayce discovered the cure for snoring while he slept. Some things are inadequately explained: for " hair growth " does one wear the caster oil packs on the head or over the liver? Or does it also prevent hair growth in unwanted areas? I don't know what to make of " relief from suffering. " Is this just plain ole generic sufferin'? Maybe from too many " punctures. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Appreciate that feedback . I would have liked to know how it works and on exactly what too, which is why I posted looking for comments. I did write to too about timing of this, and got an answer back. He said that wearing the pack nightly for two weeks was the right length of time. Marg, if you try it and get some relief (which I hope you do in any case), will you please let us know the results? Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Just to chime in, I wore the castor packs for six months to shrink a tumor and it did nothing, I had to get an operation to remove......and as a matter of fact....the tumor grew in that time. > > Appreciate that feedback . I would have liked to know how it works > and on exactly what too, which is why I posted looking for comments. > > > > I did write to too about timing of this, and got an answer back. > He said that wearing the pack nightly for two weeks was the right length of > time. > > > > Marg, if you try it and get some relief (which I hope you do in any case), > will you please let us know the results? > > > > Barbara > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yes, of course I will let you know if the discomfort diminishes and how fast I notice a difference. This is in addition to some other things I am trying to which you can do a search of the name Kelley Eidem on here or his website to find out about. But the enlarged liver was something I have been worried about. I have begun to take milk thistle capsules daily because I heard that was beneficial to the liver. Also, dandelion tea is suppose to help. But I've noticed no real difference as yet, so that is why this is of interest to me. Thanks again - Marg > > Appreciate that feedback . I would have liked to know how it works > and on exactly what too, which is why I posted looking for comments. > > > > I did write to too about timing of this, and got an answer back. > He said that wearing the pack nightly for two weeks was the right length of > time. > > > > Marg, if you try it and get some relief (which I hope you do in any case), > will you please let us know the results? > > > > Barbara > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Hi Marg, Alpha lipoic acid is supposed to be very good for the liver so you might want to also add that to your regimen/liver supplements. http://www.townsendletter.com/Dec2007/alphalipo1207.htm Best regards, Sandy --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Marg <blueangel@...> wrote But the enlarged liver was something I have been worried about. I have begun to take milk thistle capsules daily because I heard that was beneficial to the liver. Also, dandelion tea is suppose to help. But I've noticed no real difference as yet, so that is why this is of interest to me. Thanks again - Marg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Marji, A respected list member call my attention to the fact that the instructions on the location of the liver in the original post were from someone who has never looked inside an abdomen, not that it makes any difference. In my opinion the only benefit to caster oil packs is the psychological value of a self-help ritual. Milk thistle can be useful, but most people use it in doses that are far below those that would actually benefit you. It is safe so don't hesitate to be heavy handed with it. Valine and alpha lipoic acid are also very useful tools in assisting your liver's recovery. Again, don't be shy with the doses, but read up on these yourself before spending your money. As to Kelley Eidem, I have never seen a simple cancer treatment that can be relied on. Such things tend to be quite mythic, but who am I to say that there is no golden fleece, no Holy Grail, no philospher's stone. So, after you are fleeced, Grailed, and stoned you can step back from the advice from anyone who is not going to do your dying for you. The main tool that you and everyone has is the effective use of your own brain. Many balk and bemoan their lack of a scientific background. Science certainly helps, but equally important are common sense and sales resistance. If I were to sort by profession all my program participants and bet on winners and losers, my money would always be on farmers and people who own their own mid-level successful business. They tend to be better than scientist-patients when it comes to perseverence, money management, spotting marketing B.S., and weighing risk. Marji wrote: " , instead of a chemical reaction, could it possibly have a vibratory effect, ala Emoto's water crystals? The warm castor oil might resonate in a homeopathic way, to stimulate some sympathetic frequency response in the liver cells. I had a few acupuncture treatments that were designed to " un-stagnate " my liver. Marji, Always be cautious when someone uses scientistic terms yet the underlying science is gee-whiz speculative. I read Emoto's work. The science behind it would lose at any elementary school science fair. I am personally quite tolerant of Emoto as I suspect he is brain damaged. I don't think it is possible to say something " resonates " without detecting some sort of resonance. I will be profoundly affected when any homeopath can consistently correctly identify a homeopathic medicine among blank controls. As to acupuncture, I have seen acupuncturists produce anesthesia and reduce anxiety. I think that someone coming at me with a needle would have the opposite effect. How would I know if they know what what they are doing? What if they accidentally punctured my ego? _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marg Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 6:38 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Castor Oil Pack - Dr Yes, of course I will let you know if the discomfort diminishes and how fast I notice a difference. This is in addition to some other things I am trying to which you can do a search of the name Kelley Eidem on here or his website to find out about. But the enlarged liver was something I have been worried about. I have begun to take milk thistle capsules daily because I heard that was beneficial to the liver. Also, dandelion tea is suppose to help. But I've noticed no real difference as yet, so that is why this is of interest to me. Thanks again - Marg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks for this great link to the townsend letter on ALA. ________________________________ From: Sandy <hollis302000@...> Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 Â Hi Marg, Alpha lipoic acid is supposed to be very good for the liver so you might want to also add that to your regimen/liver supplements. http://www.townsendletter.com/Dec2007/alphalipo1207.htm Best regards, Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Castor oil naturally pulls things out. So even if we have muscle soreness, etc., we can rub castor oil on it to help relieve it. My energy healer/teacher always has us bring castor oil to every workshop and retreat. xxoo > > > > Hi All, > > > > Bill 's latest Cancer Free Newsletter had this in it from Dr. > > about doing a castor oil pack for liver cleansing. (see below) > > > > Would this really work? How many days would we apply the castor oil pack? ~ > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > Excerpt from Newsletter: " I was also intrigued by a conversation I had the > > other day with Dr. , M.D., the wonderful holistic healer. He > > told me he always recommends his cancer patients (and those with other > > degenerative conditions) use a " castor oil pack. " > > > > When I asked him why, he explained that he has found the primary reason that > > people die of cancer and other diseases is " liver toxemia. " This simply > > means an overload of the liver's ability to cleanse the blood. He said that > > doctors are not trained to look for toxemia as an effect of cancer and other > > diseases. They simply only consider it when there is some poison > > accidentally swallowed. Then, they are trained to get it out with induced > > vomiting, etc. But they get no training ever about toxemia and its relation > > to chronic degenerative conditions like cancer. Dr. is convinced, and > > I certainly agree with him now, that cancer deaths are simply a result of > > liver toxemia. This is the result of the toxins our body gets from dental > > work and our food combined with the heavy toxin load produced by the cancer, > > the weakening of our immune system by stress, etc. " > > > > " The castor oil pack, which is quite simple, is a great way to cleanse the > > liver with an external " poultice. " You simply soak a piece of cotton (a > > t-shirt works fine) in castor oil and put it on the skin over the liver > > (lower right abdomen) and wrap saran wrap around it to control the dripping. > > You then start with 2 or 3 hours and work up to where you can keep it on all > > night. The castor oil will draw the toxins out of the liver through the > > skin. Incredible!! I had just read about this same healing treatment in the > > " Save Your Life Course " as one of the most common things Dr. Schulze used to > > heal his " terminal " patients. " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 From what I understand, castor oil is used primarily for detoxifying and pain relief. xxoo > > > > Appreciate that feedback . I would have liked to know how it works > > and on exactly what too, which is why I posted looking for comments. > > > > > > > > I did write to too about timing of this, and got an answer back. > > He said that wearing the pack nightly for two weeks was the right length of > > time. > > > > > > > > Marg, if you try it and get some relief (which I hope you do in any case), > > will you please let us know the results? > > > > > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 " Gammill " wrote: What if they accidentally punctured my ego? > ROFLMAO!!!!!! Honestly, though, would be the best thing that could happen to you! Part of my protocol, these days, is learning to drop the ego and live from the heart. That ego is a crazy powerful thing and is only interested in its own survival. So I got this visual of your ego being poked with a needle, and all the little ego droplets rushing out, leaving the ego sac completely flat. Ahhhhh yes, if you can find someone who can do that, please send me their name! LOL xxoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Many things that I write are " tongue in cheek " and this has nothing to do with buccal uptake. I use the word " ego " in the vernacular sense of " self esteem, " and I think the world would be a better place if everyone had reason to have high self esteem. I am not sure what you mean by " live from the heart " but if this means act with sincerity, then that in itself is a reason to have high self esteem. If it means to let one's emotions have free rein, then I suppose this is useful if, for example, you are hamming it up on stage, in a pulpit, in the courtroom, or even trying to convince the kids to do their homework. As you are using " heart " in contradistinction to " ego " perhaps it is the latter. If by " heart " you mean to act intuitively I think this is a wonderful skill to have in sports where too much thinking can adversely affect one skills. I sure wish I had more heart in this sense. If it means to defer decision-making to a dark, nether-conscious process, then I would have to stand back. If " heart " means to act completely freely and spontaneously, I have seen plenty of such people storming up and down the subway platforms angrily talking to themselves; their sincerity is not to be questioned. Perhaps I should look at these people with more of an open mind. Thank you. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of melizzard11 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 7:32 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Castor Oil Pack - Dr " Gammill " wrote: What if they accidentally punctured my ego? > ROFLMAO!!!!!! Honestly, though, would be the best thing that could happen to you! Part of my protocol, these days, is learning to drop the ego and live from the heart. That ego is a crazy powerful thing and is only interested in its own survival. So I got this visual of your ego being poked with a needle, and all the little ego droplets rushing out, leaving the ego sac completely flat. Ahhhhh yes, if you can find someone who can do that, please send me their name! LOL xxoo .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=106033/grpspId=1705061620/msgId= 47515/stime=1297186416/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 If anyone in the group sent me a private message today (Monday), please resend. I had just opened the email and read something about bc when my phone rang.. I gave it a gold star so I could find it again quickly and logged off. When I went back this was all there was..lol.. Love to hear from Vince & others but I don't want someone to think I am ignoring them. Thanks guys... Lola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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