Angiosarcoma and natural treatments

[Guest guest]

Hi, I had angiosarcoma in the breast and have had surgery to remove tumours (and

breasts sad to say) with close margins. I am currently following the Budwig

Protocol but am interested in other therapies to compliment this. I know, I

know this is supposed to work just on it's own but I am currently looking at

options since I haven't read too much about Budwig and Sarcomas. Covering my

bases here. My cancer is a vascular cancer and am not sure if it makes a

difference.

Does anyone have any suggestion or heard what works with sarcomas or vascular

cancers? I have read that B17 apricot seeds protocol doesn't really work for

sarcomas.

My current protocol is

Budwig (full protocol)

D3 - 8000 a day

Thymunex (immune support)

spirulina

green suppliment

1/4 tsp baking soda/water 2x a day

infrared sauna 3x a week

had a homeopathic detox for a month

had a colonic and do coffee enemas a few times a month

I have had no other treatment but surgery. Navarro test soon after surgery was

54. Waiting on results of my next test.

[Guest guest]

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From:

Hi, I had angiosarcoma in the breast and have had surgery to remove tumours

(and breasts sad to say) with close margins. I am currently following the Budwig

Protocol but am interested in other therapies to compliment this. I know, I know

this is supposed to work just on it's own but I am currently looking at options

since I haven't read too much about Budwig and Sarcomas. Covering my bases here.

My cancer is a vascular cancer and am not sure if it makes a difference.

Does anyone have any suggestion or heard what works with sarcomas or vascular

cancers? I have read that B17 apricot seeds protocol doesn't really work for

sarcomas.

My current protocol is

Budwig (full protocol)

D3 - 8000 a day

Thymunex (immune support)

spirulina

green suppliment

1/4 tsp baking soda/water 2x a day

infrared sauna 3x a week

had a homeopathic detox for a month

had a colonic and do coffee enemas a few times a month

I have had no other treatment but surgery. Navarro test soon after surgery was

54. Waiting on results of my next test.

[Guest guest]

" " <natalie@...> wrote:

>I have read that B17 apricot seeds protocol doesn't really work for sarcomas

Correct.

> My current protocol is

> Budwig (full protocol)

> D3 - 8000 a day

> Thymunex (immune support)

> infrared sauna 3x a week...detox...

> had a colonic and do coffee enemas...

Sounds great.

> what works with sarcomas

(particularly CAPITALIZED items)

pau d’arco, kombu, shiitake, Hoxsey, green tea, bindweed, Poly-MVA; COLEY’S

TOXINS; ISSELS, hyperthermia, IV vit. C; Kelley- regimen (high-dose

pancreatin)

www.Hufeland.com & www.sdiegoclinic.com

For rhabdomyosarcoma--fermented soy products, quercetin, betulinic acid, DMSO

[Guest guest]

hea thanks! some really promising stuff there. stuff i have never even hear

of!

natalie

> >I have read that B17 apricot seeds protocol doesn't really work for sarcomas

>

> Correct.

>

> > My current protocol is

> > Budwig (full protocol)

> > D3 - 8000 a day

> > Thymunex (immune support)

> > infrared sauna 3x a week...detox...

> > had a colonic and do coffee enemas...

>

> Sounds great.

>

> > what works with sarcomas

> (particularly CAPITALIZED items)

>

> pau d’arco, kombu, shiitake, Hoxsey, green tea, bindweed, Poly-MVA;

COLEY’S TOXINS; ISSELS, hyperthermia, IV vit. C; Kelley- regimen

(high-dose pancreatin)

> www.Hufeland.com & www.sdiegoclinic.com

>

> For rhabdomyosarcoma--fermented soy products, quercetin, betulinic acid, DMSO

>

[Guest guest]

For bc my wife has started getting weekly whole body infrared dome

hyperthermia. This therapy raises the core body temperature to 40-41

°C for 4 hours (using sleeping medicine) together with low dose

chemotherapies (15mg - 5mg cisplatin, 5mg topotecin & 5mg taxol) to

encourage apoptosis and redifferentiation. In addition 50,000 IU vitamin

A intramuscular injection before hyperthermia, and intravenous cyclic

AMP (using Bucladesine Sodium/Actosin and Aminophin to block breakdown

of cyclic AMP) as well as 60 g intravenous vitamin C infusion and oxygen

during hyperthermia. The chemotherapy goes in before the core body

temperature reaches 39 °C.

It's still to early to tell the result, but some tumor markers have

decreased and others have slowed or are stopping. We check CA 15-3, BCA

225, Ferritin, ALP, LDH, AFP (Alpha-fetoprotein), Thymidine Kinase (TK),

TPA, α-1 globulin, Hyaluronic Acid, and Uric Acid markers. But not

all of them every month. Some we've been checking every week before each

hyperthermia to check the response from the previous week. Hyaluronic

Acid decreased from 130 to 55 ng/ml in 2 weeks, which is just outside

the normal range.

Quercetin seems to be a " hyperthermia sensitizer " and maybe be effective

at reducing tumor markers in breast cancer. We started taking 6000mg/day

in 3 divided doses.

http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/5/3/196.pdf

EGCG also appears to be good. We started on 1200mg/day.

Super Artemisinin (morning and bedtime, on empty stomach with yoghurt

and fish oils) kept the Ferritin marker well down in the normal range,

around 30-35 ng/ml, until we stopped taking it and the marker went up to

106 in that one month. Started back on Super Artemisinin again and the

marker has decreased somewhat already.

>

> Hi, I had angiosarcoma in the breast and have had surgery to remove

tumours (and breasts sad to say) with close margins. I am currently

following the Budwig Protocol but am interested in other therapies to

compliment this. I know, I know this is supposed to work just on it's

own but I am currently looking at options since I haven't read too much

about Budwig and Sarcomas. Covering my bases here. My cancer is a

vascular cancer and am not sure if it makes a difference.

>

> Does anyone have any suggestion or heard what works with sarcomas or

vascular cancers? I have read that B17 apricot seeds protocol doesn't

really work for sarcomas.

>

> My current protocol is

> Budwig (full protocol)

> D3 - 8000 a day

> Thymunex (immune support)

> spirulina

> green suppliment

> 1/4 tsp baking soda/water 2x a day

> infrared sauna 3x a week

> had a homeopathic detox for a month

> had a colonic and do coffee enemas a few times a month

>

> I have had no other treatment but surgery. Navarro test soon after

surgery was 54. Waiting on results of my next test.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The kinds of treatments you revealed, Hyperthermia etc, sound like what one

might get in Mexico or Germany. Where are these treatments being had?

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

I would like to know as well. Sounds pretty through!

natalie

--- jcastron wrote:

The kinds of treatments you revealed, Hyperthermia etc, sound like what one

might get in Mexico or Germany. Where are these treatments being had?

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

The main hyperthermia therapy with low dose chemotherapy is in Tokyo, and we

sometimes do a simplified WBH without any chemotherapy in Osaka.

Various forms of hyperthermia are quite popular in Japan. I'm not sure about

local hyperthermia though because of metastases. CA 15-3 marker increase from 35

to 145 in only one month after doing local hyperthermia twice and ultrasound

discovered 2 tumors in the liver. So we are sticking to whole body hyperthermia

from now on, which is recommended for metastases.

http://beta.medicinescomplete.com/journals/fact/current/fact0204a13a24.htm

At the moment I'm trying to organize Quercetin injections which is a

hyperthermia sensitizer. For the time being she's taking 6000mg orally per day,

which may in fact work quite well since it might actually stay in the body for

longer.

Effects of the flavonoid drug quercetin on the response of human prostate

tumours to hyperthermia in vitro and in vivo.

Department of Radiation Oncology, Dana Farber Cancer Institute, Harvard Medical

School, Boston, MA 02115, USA.

Tumour hyperthermia, although potentially a powerful therapeutic agent and

radiation sensitizer, is hindered by a number of considerations including

inhomogeneous heating of deep seated tumours due to energy deposition and

perfusion issues. One solution is to design hyperthermia sensitizers to amplify

the effects of hyperthermia, particularly at cold spots within the tumour

undergoing treatment. This study examined the use of Quercetin, a flavonoid drug

shown previously to antagonize the expression of HSP72 and induce apoptosis as a

sensitizer of prostate cancer growth in vivo. Quercetin dose-dependently

suppressed PC-3 tumour growth in vitro and in vivo. When combined in a treatment

protocol with hyperthermia, quercetin drastically inhibited tumour growth and

potently amplified the effects of hyperthermia on two prostate tumour types,

PC-3 and DU-145 in vivo. These experiments, thus, suggest the use of Quercetin

as a hyperthermia sensitizer in the treatment of prostate carcinoma.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11471985

Phase I clinical trial of the flavonoid quercetin - pharmacokinetics and

evidence for in vivo tyrosine kinase inhibition

http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/2/4/659.full.pdf

>

> The kinds of treatments you revealed, Hyperthermia etc, sound like what one

might get in Mexico or Germany. Where are these treatments being had?

>

> Joe C.