Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 In a message dated 2/21/07 1:33:02 PM, wpswallace@... writes: > Jim , colours are important, every woman knows that! > > Yeah. Just like chocolate. ************************************** Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 we mixed powdered up in a chaser..we gave high doses for arthritis/uveitis 500mg was maintanance 1,500mg a day was typical and I have heard of children being on up to 3,000mgs a day for arthritis/uveitis-eye inflammation/eye disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 I take 300 mg turmeric a day. Have done so for over a year (off and on, mostly on). I used it to help with some chronic inflammation in my knee and I think it has helped quite a bit. I see no negatives. I started giving the same dose to my 63lb son a few weeks ago. I see nothing postive or negative. I've honestly never looked up what dose I should be taking. The Solaray bottle says to take 1 capsule up to 3 times/day. I suppose I could take more. Pam > > > Hello, > > Wanted to find out if anyone is using Turmeric and what are the results positive or negative? > > Thank You > > Andree > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 > > > Hello, > > Wanted to find out if anyone is using Turmeric and what are the > results positive or negative? I've read that turmeric is not good for people with high cysteine levels. I haven't used it personally nor given it to my child since both of us are high cysteine so I can't comment further, but check the archives for Andy's comments about this supplement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 We are using Curcumin (the active in gredient in Turmeric) and it's doing wonders for 3 members of our family. You can take regular turmeric, but make sure to eat it with lots of oil. Cooking it in a curry is also something we do a lot of around here. We use the new as yet FDA approved Longvida brand - it is bound with lipids right inside the capsule, for maximum effect. Bound with lipids is the only way it can cross the BBB and act as an antioxidant and clear plaques in the brain I think. It has zero flavor, but feels strange, little soft granules, I give it to my 6 mo. old (who has Down syndrome) in a tiny bit of maple syrup, and for my 5 yo with sensory issues (and metal toxicity) I give it in pudding or something. Blake Ebersole 1250 E. Conner Street Noblesville, IN 46060 USA +1.317.776.3600 bebersole{at{vs-corp.com p.s. we are also finished with round 2 (they're long rounds) via AC protocol. DMSA only yet. Really good results even though just 2 rounds! liora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Thanks to all of you Can you tell me the changes you have seen in your children since using it? I have read somewhere that it helps with brain inflammation and language. I am looking for something to help my son get out of echolalia and develop functional language. Andree > > We are using Curcumin (the active in gredient in Turmeric) and it's doing wonders for 3 members of our family. > > You can take regular turmeric, but make sure to eat it with lots of oil. Cooking it in a curry is also something we do a lot of around here. > > We use the new as yet FDA approved Longvida brand - it is bound with lipids right inside the capsule, for maximum effect. Bound with lipids is the only way it can cross the BBB and act as an antioxidant and clear plaques in the brain I think. > > It has zero flavor, but feels strange, little soft granules, I give it to my 6 mo. old (who has Down syndrome) in a tiny bit of maple syrup, and for my 5 yo with sensory issues (and metal toxicity) I give it in pudding or something. > > > Blake Ebersole > 1250 E. Conner Street > Noblesville, IN 46060 USA > +1.317.776.3600 > bebersole{at{vs-corp.com > > p.s. we are also finished with round 2 (they're long rounds) via AC protocol. DMSA only yet. Really good results even though just 2 rounds! > > > liora > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I want to say dried turmeric tastes like dried hay. It tastes dry, but the dried form lacks the pungency that the fresh root has. It's kind of like the difference between fresh ginger and dried--the fresh has more bite to it and a sweetness and spiciness that the dried can only hint at. If you ever get the chance to try some fresh, please do, and add some to potatoes, with coconut milk, a few chopped shallots, and a chile or two. You'll be able to taste the pungency that way. It's the main constituent of yellow curries and gives that yellow color. I drank some dried turmeric recently in tea with cardamom and honey. The cardamom made it taste a lot better. Otherwise it tastes, well, dry and yellow, with hints of the pungency it had when fresh. Kind of like how you look at something old and run-down and can tell it used to be really beautiful at some point. It's healthy stuff, reduces inflammation, and researchers believe it is why there is no Alzheimer's Disease in India, due to their high rates of consumption in all the curries. It's also shown promise in reducing the pain of arthritis. Hawaiians also used it as a dye. Good stuff. Aloha, Alina Drool over my pictures: http://almostveganinparadise.wordpress.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 It also chelates iron, which is why I'm interested in it. Some of us have too much stored or free iron, which is thought to be one of the " oxidants " and also one of the things that makes people prone to bacterial/fungal infections and cancer. On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 1:25 AM, cocekqueen <cocekqueen@...> wrote: > I want to say dried turmeric tastes like dried hay. It tastes dry, but the dried form lacks the pungency that the fresh root has. It's kind of like the difference between fresh ginger and dried--the fresh has more bite to it and a sweetness and spiciness that the dried can only hint at. If you ever get the chance to try some fresh, please do, and add some to potatoes, with coconut milk, a few chopped shallots, and a chile or two. You'll be able to taste the pungency that way. It's the main constituent of yellow curries and gives that yellow color. > > I drank some dried turmeric recently in tea with cardamom and honey. The cardamom made it taste a lot better. Otherwise it tastes, well, dry and yellow, with hints of the pungency it had when fresh. Kind of like how you look at something old and run-down and can tell it used to be really beautiful at some point. > > It's healthy stuff, reduces inflammation, and researchers believe it is why there is no Alzheimer's Disease in India, due to their high rates of consumption in all the curries. It's also shown promise in reducing the pain of arthritis. Hawaiians also used it as a dye. Good stuff. > > Aloha, > Alina > > Drool over my pictures: > http://almostveganinparadise.wordpress.com > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Well, I guess you can call it whatever you wish. I buy organic turmeric powder. Bradley [a researcher] on the Colloidal Silver Forum gave directions on how to make LET Vit.C [Liposomal Encapsilation Technology]. It is made using an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, lecithin, Vit C powder and distilled water. It is comparable to Vit C IV treatments. Works just fine. It cost pennies compared to what you would have to pay for pre-made. Many, many of us make it ourselves. Sandy  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Curcuminoids are elements of Tumeric. I did start buying Turmeric until I learned that the studies were being done with Curcumin. Then I was advised to use Curcumin. While they certainly are related they are not interchangeable descriptions. I wonder how one would make the batch spoken of a couple of days ago. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Could you give us instructions on how to make this Sandy and how it's used? I'm not on the CS list. Thanks, ~Amber > Well, I guess you can call it whatever you wish. I buy organic turmeric powder. > > Bradley [a researcher] on the Colloidal Silver Forum gave directions on how to make LET Vit.C [Liposomal Encapsilation Technology]. It is made using an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, lecithin, Vit C powder and distilled water. It is comparable to Vit C IV treatments. Works just fine. It cost pennies compared to what you would have to pay for pre-made. Many, many of us make it ourselves. > > Sandy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Hi Joe-- According to this they are the same but let's say they are different, my interest with turmeric is the research showing it reverses many heart problems, an enlarged heart for one... Also, researchers at the Munk Cardiac Centre of the Toronto General Hospital, Canada have discovered that eating curcumin, a natural ingredient in the spice turmeric, may dramatically reduce the chance of developing heart failure. In a study entitled, " Curcumin prevents and reverses murine cardiac hypertrophy, " published in the February edition of the Journal of Clinical Investigation, researchers found when the herb is given orally to a variety of mouse models with enlarged hearts (hypertrophy), it can prevent and reverse hypertrophy, restore heart function and reduce scar formation. Where do you get your curcumin? I have found articles saying that turmeric and curcumin are the same and others that claim they are different...sigh. About making LET you should know it is best to mix the distilled water, lecithin and vit C powder in a blender for a minute or 2 to mix it well enough. I have the smaller Ultra-sonic unit and take it through 6 cycles making that 12 minutes altogether. If you have any questions just ask. Sandy Here is the Bradley protocol for making LET. In our recent researches evaluating this technology and, consequently, in searching for possible " process " improvements/modifications which might facilitate the " lay person " an opportunity for a DIY methodology achievable in a home environment---we did achieve some notable progress. First, a brief summary of our exploratory activity. Our literature searches revealed several companies actively exhibiting valid capability in this area (LET). Typical, and demonstrably capable, is a company named MICROTEK. Microteklabs.com Helpful information is available here. One fact became obvious, early on, to wit: The truly striking feature of LET was a NATURALLY-occurring characteristic...... and not a man-made process, that was driving this encapsulation process. That is, this process is a function of an automatic, " natural tendency " of certain substances (e.g. phospholipids in this case) to form tiny vacoules or bubbles---called liposomes----when in a aqueous solution under certain conditions. " The keystone activity is that these liposomes automatically fill themselves with whatever aqueous solution they were in----before they were formed. " This type of bubble, called a membrane, forms a protective barrier around virtually every cell in the human body. " Livon Labs has perfected a process which employs a high-pressure (1700 p.s.i.) discharge system which directs a liquid stream against a forming plate. The high impact forces the phospholipids (soy lecithin in this case) to form liposomes----so small they require an electrom microscope for viewing. This technology does not create the LET activity....it just enhances it. In our personal researches we have determined the key to exploiting the LET phenomenon appeared to be Livon's application of intense force in their mixing methodology. Enter the " enlightening " moment. Searching for a method of achieving liposomal encapsulation, it occurred to us to explore ultrasonic stimulation as an option. It worked...maybe not quite as well as Livon's " high tech " brute force approach...but about 70% as well. Plenty efficient for our purposes. Our vitamin " C " liposomal encapsulation protocol is as follows: Using a small (2 cup) Ultrasonic cleaner, (Item #03305, obtainable from Harbor Freight @ about $30.00), we performed the following: 1. Dissolved 3 level tablespoons of soy lecithin in 1 cup of water (preferably distilled). 2. Dissolved 1 level tablespoon of ascorbic acid powder (Vit. " C " ) in 1/2 cup of water. 3. Poured both solutions together in the ultrasonic cleaner bowl and turned the unit on. Using a plastic straw (leaving the top of the cleaner opened), gently, slowly, stirred the contents. Note: The cleaner will, automatically, self-stop about every 2 minutes. Just push ON button to continue. Repeat for a total of 3 series (6 minutes). By that time the entire solution should be blended into a cloudy, homogeneous, milk-like mixture. The LET solution is now formed. 4. This protocol furnishes about 12 grams (12000mg.) of vitamin C product. At 70% encapsulation efficiency, 8400 mg would be of the LET type. This solution will keep, acceptably, at room temperature for 3 to 4 days. Refrigerated, it will keep much longer. We use it so fast around our place...there isn't enough left to be concerned over storage. The " homogenizing effect " is so powerful that after 3 days at room temperature, no precipitation or solution separation appears evident. This type of sequestered vitamin " C " has demonstrated to be, at least 5 times more effective (per volumetric measure) than any other form of orally-ingested vitamin " c " ....that we have tested. Additionally, it appears to be even more rapid in tissue-bed availability----than IV applications. An astounding revelation....to us. We estimate the DIY researcher can produce the active LET portion of this solution for 15 cents per gram....as against about $1.00 per gram from commerci! al sources. It is my hope that this, limited, explanation of our activities in this area, is of some value to our do-it-yourself health-maintenance researchers. In any event, this protocol has demonstrated to be n on-toxic and most helpful to OUR RESEARCHES. Sincerely, Bradley. p.s. A larger, more powerful, ultrasonic cleaner is now available at Harbor Freight. Item number 91593. 2+ liters, for about $60.00. Both units have performed quite well for us. Almost as well as our $500.00 lead zirconate titanate, research grade, unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Hi Amber-- In my response to Joe I have given the instructions. If you have any questions please let me know. Regards-- Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Sandy: Not demanding to be correct because it is not my brains that figured tis out.......I'm just a copy-cat. If you call me , instead of Joe, you would be half right because it is my middle name. My name is made up of three names, first, middle, and last. What is important is that someone wanting Curcumin, does not buy Turmeric Powder instead. Here is the information making it important to distinguish between them: By the way, old dogs can learn new tricks because I did not know about the benfit for heart issues. Thanks for that.......... " Information is our best friend " . Joe Active Constituents and Pharmacokinetics " The active constituents of turmeric are the flavonoid curcumin and volatile oils including tumerone, atlantone, and zingiberone. Other constituents include sugars, proteins, and resins. [The best-researched active constituent is curcumin, which comprises 0.3 to 5.4 percent of raw turmeric.] (2) Pharmacokinetic studies in animals demonstrate that 40-85 percent of an oral dose of curcumin passes through the gastrointestinal tract unchanged, with most of the absorbed flavonoid being metabolized in the intestinal mucosa and liver. (3,4) Due to its low rate of absorption, curcumin is often formulated with bromelain for increased absorption and enhanced anti-inflammatory effect. " Note how little Curcumin is contained in an amount of Turmeric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 A simpler approach may be to simply eat tumeric and pepper together, as is commonly done with curry dishes. In a book by Drs. Beliveau and Denis Gingras, " Foods That Fight Cancer - Preventing Cancer Through Diet " , it states: " Curcumin (the primary ingredient in Tumeric that is thought to be responsible for its anti-cancer effects), however has at least one drawback: its low bioavailability (the extent to which it can be absorbed into the bloodstream). However, it is important to note that a molecule contained in pepper, piperine, increases the bioabsorption of curcumin by a factor of 1,000, a property that can no doubt be exploited to maximize curcumin's potential health benefits " . I highly recommend the Beliveau-Gingras book. It is an enjoyable, easy read that is replete with much actionable information. Kind regards, Nick -- On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Sandy wrote: > Hi -- > > Yes, I have made lipo turmeric with turmeric powder. There wasn't a thing wrong with it either that I could tell. > > Sandy > > Hi All, > > Below is a press release from FreshPlaza on " liposomal turmeric " capsules. > > Can the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to make liposomal turmeric, say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder instead? > > Your views are most welcome. > > > > ============ = > > India: Turmeric may help offer treatments for colon cancer, psoriasis, alzheimer's > > Curcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed as a promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing nano-sized capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve its absorption and effectiveness in the body. > > Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric. > > The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases. > > Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease. > > The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin so that little actually gets into the blood. > > It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into structures called liposomes can boost absorption. > > The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin and fed them to laboratory rats. > > They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin, and also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood. > > The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of the gastrointestinal tract. > > The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a bi-weekly publication. > Source: expressindia. com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Joe...ah er, ...um, Mr. Castron? Thank you for that information. I am so glad we've had this discussion because I've breen doing some research tonight and have found that piperine [bioperine] combined with Curcumin makes the body digest it 2000 percent. Wow, that's pretty good. Yes, information is our best friend and so is Google. ha! Best regards-- Sandy Sandy: Not demanding to be correct because it is not my brains that figured tis out.......I' m just a copy-cat. If you call me , instead of Joe, you would be half right because it is my middle name. My name is made up of three names, first, middle, and last. What is important is that someone wanting Curcumin, does not buy Turmeric Powder instead. Here is the information making it important to distinguish between them: By the way, old dogs can learn new tricks because I did not know about the benfit for heart issues. Thanks for that........ .. " Information is our best friend " . Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 A belgian compay has a nice formulation with C3 curcuminoids http://www.curcuminoids.com/ combined with bioperine. 400mg curcuminoids with 12mg bioperine on http://www.curador.net/indexfr/curcumin/curacurmine_presentation.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I would take a brand of CURCUMIN that contains (bio)piperine (which makes it 2000% more bioavailable). (I also heard " If you take the powdered curcumin, get the straight curcumin (not mixed with turmeric) and take it with coconut oil...or some sort of fat. " ). Use a good brand of curcumin, such as Turmeric Extract (www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1301/Source Naturals) or www.thorne.com/media/Meriva_Curcumin_Phytosome.pdf Liposomal curcumin is available from www.letstalkhealth.com The best brand of TURMERIC I know of is www.newchapter.com/products/TurmericForce Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I usually mix 1 tsp. of organic turmeric in my green smoothie everyday made with kefir and I usually throw in a banana and some kelp. Sandy  > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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