Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 Ellen could you elaborate on Cell Salts? What is it , where do you get it, etc? Thank-you Re: [ ] > Darien, I can't answer your question per se, as we did things in reverse. My > daughter had HBOT 3 yrs ago (ran out of money, can't go back for a while) > and we saw tremendous improvement immediately. After having had 76 > treatments, her frequency of sz reduced by 50%, as well as other > improvements such as better eye tracking, improved memory, and no more > Parkinson's-like syndrome. Now this past June she started cell salts, also > with Sutton and the improvements have been tremendous! Although we had > tried many different therapies, nothing has helped in her healing like HBOt > and cell salts. For those who do not know, these Biochemic Cell Salts were > discovered by Wilhem Schuessler, a German homeopath from the 1800s. These > cell salts, are titurated in a homeopathic manner, so that the body can > readily absorb these microdoses of minerals. They must be taken over time, > and the longer the mineral deficiency, the longer it will take to replenish. > We saw some improvements within the first week or two of cell salts. For the > first time in over 4 years, she is no longer afraid to go to sleep at night. > Before the cell salts, as soon as she would go to bed she would start > " twitching " and if left alone would go into a tonic clonic seziure. As a > consequence, she was afraid to fall asleep (and sleep deprivation leads to > more seizures). It had gotten so bad that we strung a series of bells on her > bed. Now she is sleeping restfully. She has also started growing again. For > the past several years, she was not growing and went from 95% for growth > down to 5% for growth. In the past 6 months she started growing and is now > at 25% of others her age. After a few months on cell salts, we saw a slight > regression as she hit a plateau and then she began to further improve as the > healing was working deeper. I believe absolutely that cell salts is an > excellent therapy in addition to the HBOT. > > As far as looking for an HBOT center, unless you find one very close (less > than an hour drive), I would look for a place to stay near the center. If yo > u're doing 2 treatments a day, even if your'e close by, it takes up most of > your day. My daughter was very hungry (HBOT boosts the metabolism) so if we > weren't in the chamber I was feeding her. In between that time I was doing > exercizes with her. I found that it really consumed the entire day and if > you add driving into the mix, its really difficult. The 2 sessions must be 4 > hours apart each day if you're doing 2 in a day. If this means that you > should be away from home, I would look for a setting that is relaxing to you > because you will be working hard. Also, if you go into the chamber with your > child (I did), you may find this extremely fatiguing (in which case Dr. > Harch would tell you not to go in anymore!). I've used both a mono-chamber > and a multi chamber. The mono chamber sort of reminded me of a coffin and > there was not room to move around and my back began to hurt, but I could see > everything that was going on outside. The multi chamber requires a hood on > your child. Mine didn't like this, but was okay as long as we started her > movie right away. There was more room to move around, so this was more > comfortable, but I could not see out as well (only a tiny window in a bad > position) so this kind of bothered me. I was able to look at a book though, > instead of watching the same Disney movies over and over again. Good luck! > Ellen > > > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ and HDO-documentation/files/ > > Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html > > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm > > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to by sending a blank email to mailto:medicaid-subscribe > > Unsubscribe? Click here mailto:medicaid-unsubscribe .. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted November 5, 2000 Report Share Posted November 5, 2000 Hi Hud You may be right, but for me and others who have used this remedy ( nat sulph 6x ) successfully for migranes, going from intense pain of migraines and vommiting to completely migraine free at very little expense and no drugs is not a waste of time. If you consider this a waste of time so be it. The man who recommended these salts to me was a very highly qualified Homeopath and nutritionalist. He charged me nothing and I have been most grateful to him ever since. I guess those that regard cell salts as pseudo-homeopathy may wish to provide more costly and drawn out treatments for people. Maybee cell salts are too cheap and accessable to all to be popular with homeopaths who have to justify their fees. I do admit though that when I first started using cell salts I used a brand called Dr Gilberts from England. These were especially good, as they had all potencies between 2x and 200x titurated together. They were the best cell salts available to my knowledge. The factory has alas closed down. If one looks hard quality brands are still available. Cell salts have been better for me than other homeopathic treatments. They have not cured my Cfs, but have eliminated a lot of suffering at times. I have also used them for immovable constipation that no medical drugs or preparations could fix. Its a shame that I didn't discover them early enough as they may well have done the job with Cfs . After 18 years of Cfs when I found out about cell salts it was a little late for a cure. Still hoping though. Slight difference of opinion Hud, but I guess that means we are still alive eh. Blessings & Good Health Cheryl >In my opinion, cell salts are a waste of time. They were developed at a >time when not as much was understood, generally, about homeopathy than we do >today. There was a school within homeopathic like medicine which believed >low potencies to be the correct way to practice homeopathy. >Within the formally trained and knowledgeable homeopathic practitioner >community, cell salts (6x) are regarded as pseudo-homeopathy, at best. >Again, IMO, one would be better off consulting with a skilled homeopath and >working with potencies 30 c up to LM. >Hud This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2000 Report Share Posted November 6, 2000 on 11/06/00 12:20 AM, squirel at squirel@... wrote: Cheryl, > You may be right, but for me and others who have used this remedy ( nat > sulph 6x ) successfully for migranes, going from intense > pain of migraines and vommiting to completely migraine free at very little > expense and no drugs is not > a waste of time. If you consider this a waste of time so be it. Please forgive my brash response. " A waste of time " is not really what I was intending to communicate. It just came out that way, mostly because I was in a bad mood! I'm pleased to find out that the cell salts have been effective for you. It is, however, the whole notion of " cell salts " that bothers me. I think calling them cell salts is a misnomer, based on the pseudo science of Drs. Chapman and back in 1920. These docs developed a rather unconvincing theory about why the 6x mineral salt remedies work to cure illness, based on the [then] understanding that disease is the result of events at the cellular level. So they decided that the so-called 'biochemic tissue salts' worked by providing cells with missing nutrients--or something like that. Anyhow, we still don't understand how homeopathy works. And I really doubt that Drs. Chapman and had cracked the code with their biochemic theory. My main point is that cell salts are really homeopathic remedies, which work by the same principles as other homeopathic remedies. From what I know of homeopathy, higher potencies are both more effective and safer. I believe that 30x should be considered the best starting place, in terms of low potency. With 6x potency one risks starting to 'prove' the remedy, rather than clear symptoms with it. If nat sulph works for you, perhaps 30 c might be a more appropriate potency to be using. > I guess those that regard cell salts as pseudo-homeopathy may wish to > provide more costly and drawn out treatments > for people. Maybee cell salts are too cheap and accessable to all to be > popular with homeopaths who have to justify > their fees. Just the opposite: the higher the potency, the less frequent the need for repetition of the dose and vice versa. A 1M potency might be given once and then again in 6 months. The 1M potency is just as inexpensive as 6x to purchase. Homeopaths do often charge a lot for initial consults, but that's justifiable considering the overall cost of treatment and the amount of time they spend with you taking a history. The higher potency remedies are also accesible to anyone. > Cell salts have been better for me than other homeopathic treatments. They > have not cured my Cfs, but have eliminated a lot of suffering at times. I have > also used them for immovable constipation that no medical drugs or > preparations could fix. Its a shame that I didn't discover them early enough > as they may well have done the job with Cfs . After 18 years of Cfs when I > found out about cell salts it was a little late for a cure. I also have found homeopathic remedies to be effective for migraine and extreme constipation. However, the lowest I'll use is 30x. I believe CFS can be cured with homeopathy--but only at the hand of a skilled homeopath who's capable of determining one's constitutional remedy, and who's experienced with using the millesimal potencies. > Still hoping though. > Slight difference of opinion Hud, but I guess that means we are still alive > eh. The potency debate within homeopathy has been raging for well over a hundred years! Hud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2000 Report Share Posted November 12, 2000 Hud, Just reading your reply to Cheryl. Wow, you are so determined that you are RIGHT!!! Get over it. If the woman says that homeopathy in the amount of 6X works for her, then so be it. If there is one thing that anyone should learn from this illness, it is that we are individuals with individual needs. And remedies that work for one ( in a certain amount) do not work for others. No one can dictate what is right or wrong for another person. Relax and learn instead of trying to dominate. ... Just my humble opinion Sandy (P.S. Congratulations, Cheryl, for finding something that helps your migraines. I have them too. Thanks for sharing.) Hud Ramelan wrote: > > on 11/06/00 12:20 AM, squirel at squirel@... wrote: > > Cheryl, > > > You may be right, but for me and others who have used this remedy ( nat > > sulph 6x ) successfully for migranes, going from intense > > pain of migraines and vommiting to completely migraine free at very little > > expense and no drugs is not > > a waste of time. If you consider this a waste of time so be it. > > Please forgive my brash response. " A waste of time " is not really what I > was intending to communicate. It just came out that way, mostly because I > was in a bad mood! > > I'm pleased to find out that the cell salts have been effective for you. It > is, however, the whole notion of " cell salts " that bothers me. I think > calling them cell salts is a misnomer, based on the pseudo science of Drs. > Chapman and back in 1920. These docs developed a rather unconvincing > theory about why the 6x mineral salt remedies work to cure illness, based on > the [then] understanding that disease is the result of events at the > cellular level. So they decided that the so-called 'biochemic tissue salts' > worked by providing cells with missing nutrients--or something like that. > > Anyhow, we still don't understand how homeopathy works. And I really doubt > that Drs. Chapman and had cracked the code with their biochemic > theory. > > My main point is that cell salts are really homeopathic remedies, which work > by the same principles as other homeopathic remedies. From what I know of > homeopathy, higher potencies are both more effective and safer. I believe > that 30x should be considered the best starting place, in terms of low > potency. With 6x potency one risks starting to 'prove' the remedy, rather > than clear symptoms with it. If nat sulph works for you, perhaps 30 c might > be a more appropriate potency to be using. > > > I guess those that regard cell salts as pseudo-homeopathy may wish to > > provide more costly and drawn out treatments > > for people. Maybee cell salts are too cheap and accessable to all to be > > popular with homeopaths who have to justify > > their fees. > > Just the opposite: the higher the potency, the less frequent the need for > repetition of the dose and vice versa. A 1M potency might be given once and > then again in 6 months. The 1M potency is just as inexpensive as 6x to > purchase. Homeopaths do often charge a lot for initial consults, but that's > justifiable considering the overall cost of treatment and the amount of time > they spend with you taking a history. The higher potency remedies are also > accesible to anyone. > > > Cell salts have been better for me than other homeopathic treatments. They > > have not cured my Cfs, but have eliminated a lot of suffering at times. I have > > also used them for immovable constipation that no medical drugs or > > preparations could fix. Its a shame that I didn't discover them early enough > > as they may well have done the job with Cfs . After 18 years of Cfs when I > > found out about cell salts it was a little late for a cure. > > I also have found homeopathic remedies to be effective for migraine and > extreme constipation. However, the lowest I'll use is 30x. I believe CFS > can be cured with homeopathy--but only at the hand of a skilled homeopath > who's capable of determining one's constitutional remedy, and who's > experienced with using the millesimal potencies. > > > Still hoping though. > > Slight difference of opinion Hud, but I guess that means we are still alive > > eh. > > The potency debate within homeopathy has been raging for well over a hundred > years! > > Hud > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2000 Report Share Posted November 12, 2000 on 11/12/00 4:29 AM, Sandy Olson at sanols@... wrote: > Just reading your reply to Cheryl. Wow, you are so determined that you > are RIGHT!!! Get over it. Sandy, If you read my reply more carefully, you'd see that I was actually retracting an earlier opinion. In short, you might say I was admitting that I was " wrong " -- although I don't actually believe that either of us was right or wrong. That perspective simply confuses debate with competition. > If there is one thing that anyone should learn from this illness, it > is that we are individuals with individual needs. And remedies that work for > one ( in a certain amount) do not work for others. No one can dictate what is > right or wrong for another person. Bob Marley sang: " Judge not, before you judge yourself... " I suggest you take those words to heart and reconsider your entire position. My post to Cheryl never included such phrases as " if there's one thing that anyone should learn from this illness... " , unlike the one you just wrote. By using the word " should " , you change the context to a moral one. That is, " should " statements are claims about right and wrong, good and bad, etc. > Relax and learn instead of trying to dominate. ... Just my humble opinion There's nothing " humble " about your opinion. You're telling me what I should learn from my illness. You're telling me to relax and learn. You're telling me that I'm trying to dominate. Those are strong, unhumble words. And the ironic thing about your message is that instead of relaxing and learning from the legitimate debate, you're trying to 'dominate' by attacking me, as a person. There's a difference to attacking someone's position and attacking them personally. Cheryl is evidently quite capable of defending her positions. And as I said, the homeopathic 'potency debate' has a long history and homeopaths are themselves divided over the issue. Maybe you just needed to vent, like I did when I first said to Cheryl that " cell salts are a waste of time " . That understandable. Sometimes we say things we don't really mean, upon later consideration. That's why we sometimes retract our earlier comments... Hud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2000 Report Share Posted November 12, 2000 hi folks - > > Just reading your reply to Cheryl. Wow, you are so determined that you > > are RIGHT!!! Get over it. > > Sandy, > > If you read my reply more carefully, you'd see that I was actually > retracting an earlier opinion. In short, you might say I was admitting that I don't care WHO is right or wrong about this - please, please, please take this argument backchannel if you need to continue it!!!!!!!!! This list is not an appropriate place for such sniping! thanks Judith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 That's wonderful news, Tammy! I'll pass this on. Sandy From Tammy: Dear Sandy: My son recently began taking cell (tissue) salts and we have seen a dramatic change in his seizure activity as well as his constipation. We are working with Sutton, an Australian biochemist, who is coming to the US in May for two lectures. He will be in Boston May 3-5 for a conference on Alternative and Complimentary therapy for Brain Injury http://www.4healthykids.org and then in Lufkin, Texas from May 7-10 for a lecture and patient consultation http://www.biochemics.info/lectures.htm I am seeing the positive benefits of cell salts right before my eyes. Tammy Sandy from Alaska http://www.vaccinationnews.com <http://www.vaccinationnews.com/> http://www.whale.to <http://www.whale.to/> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm http://www.909shot.com <http://www.909shot.com/> http://www.redflagsweekly.com <http://www.redflagsweekly.com/> http://www.thinktwice.com <http://www.thinktwice.com/> http://home.san.rr.com/via/ http://www.mercola.com ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 Tina, I ran across cell salt information only after my vet suggested I use a homeopathic remedy for my rabbit. Do a search on Cell Salts it is not a complicated subject but knowing what to use and for what is the key. Most of the information on the web is repetitious anyway. But there are 12 essential salts that help support our system and if you read them you will notice that many are minerals and phosphates. They even have iron. I gave the iron (I forget the actual name) to my daughter-in-law because she is low in iron and takes supplements but is not absorbing it. I have to call her to see if she did try them. I like Hyland's tablets because they melt right away in your mouth and they are easy to give to pets and kids. I am not an authority on them. Someone posted on another group that Natrum Mur was very good for treating high blood pressure. It seems that this product is ordinary table salt. And you know we are to stay away from table salt if we have high blood pressure. Well it seems that our body needs a certain amount of this salt in our blood cells to regulate water in our body. These preparations are so small that they are absorbed into our cells. When we eat table salt the particles are too big to do any benefit so we wind up swimming in fluid. I used to take dandelion or uva ursi to remove water from my body during my cycle. Dandelion is good but uva ursi is just exhausting because of how much fluid is sucked out of you. I began using Natrum Mur and I love it! I am pestering my husband to use it to help his blood pressure but he isn't a consistent individual with routine. I bought about 4 different kinds of products to try for constipation & mild depression. I didn't get it to work like I thought it would but now wonder if I should institute taking 1 dose an hour until something does improve. I read on one page that you cannot overdose on these that you pee them out. But on another page I read to limit use. I guess if you fixed the problem then stop taking them. I bought the cell salts at one place and found a book at another place so I didn't have much direction on what to use to treat the constipation problem. Now I have more information and might give it a new try, I never give up. Look for them from places that sells homeopathy products. This is not cell salts, but, I began using magnesium citrate and feel much better with my bowels. I don't know if this is short term or not. Someone mentioned that they used this and I thought I would try it. I used other forms of magnesium and I guess they were not digesting or absorbing. I then bought a bottle of Calcium citrate to go with it because it is logical that the calcium I was taking was doing no good either. I took coral calcium and didn't notice any change. To the person who suggested this, THANK YOU! I have been taking this every day and it assured me of not slowing down. Even though the doctor gave me Miralax, I did notice firms stools after passing the soft pleasant ones. I'll see if I can dig up one of my saved cell salt pages and post it for anyone who may not have the time for a search. As far as I know the best time to take them is before eating, let them melt in your mouth. And you can put them in warm water and sip them to get them into your system better. Liz D > Liz D., > What a fascinating post! I learned so much, but I don't know what cell > salts are. Why did you have that product in the first place? Can you tell > me how to use them? > Tina in Idaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 I only have a moment, but comes to the states to see patients every 3 months. He will be here in a little over a week and will see patients in New York and Texas. There is a brief announcement on our ASK site. Ellen, the improvements that our Josiah have seen physically and cognitively astound everyone who works with him. Working with our osteopath really turned on his neurological system. Working with and cell salts has kept him out of the hospital and cruising forward at a pace that is startling. is also working with my wife whose arthritis was to the point of crippling on bad days. Now, she can walk around outside on days like this where it will be negative 5 (yes, -5 in New England). She can still have her bad days or bad spells, but nothing to the state before the cell salts. She has been working with for 3 months and he says that it will take 6-8 months to get her to fully rebound. http://www.4healthykids.org/alternativesbi/ Darien C. Small Alternative Therapies for Special Kids www.4healthykids.org <http://www.4healthykids.org/> <mailto:darien@...> darien@... " Resources for the healing, health, and happiness of children with special needs and their families. " [ ] Re: Cell Salts Ellen could you elaborate on Cell Salts? What is it , where do you get it, etc? Thank-you Re: [ ] > Darien, I can't answer your question per se, as we did things in reverse. My > daughter had HBOT 3 yrs ago (ran out of money, can't go back for a while) > and we saw tremendous improvement immediately. After having had 76 > treatments, her frequency of sz reduced by 50%, as well as other > improvements such as better eye tracking, improved memory, and no more > Parkinson's-like syndrome. Now this past June she started cell salts, also > with Sutton and the improvements have been tremendous! Although we had > tried many different therapies, nothing has helped in her healing like HBOt > and cell salts. For those who do not know, these Biochemic Cell Salts were > discovered by Wilhem Schuessler, a German homeopath from the 1800s. These > cell salts, are titurated in a homeopathic manner, so that the body can > readily absorb these microdoses of minerals. They must be taken over time, > and the longer the mineral deficiency, the longer it will take to replenish. > We saw some improvements within the first week or two of cell salts. For the > first time in over 4 years, she is no longer afraid to go to sleep at night. > Before the cell salts, as soon as she would go to bed she would start > " twitching " and if left alone would go into a tonic clonic seziure. As a > consequence, she was afraid to fall asleep (and sleep deprivation leads to > more seizures). It had gotten so bad that we strung a series of bells on her > bed. Now she is sleeping restfully. She has also started growing again. For > the past several years, she was not growing and went from 95% for growth > down to 5% for growth. In the past 6 months she started growing and is now > at 25% of others her age. After a few months on cell salts, we saw a slight > regression as she hit a plateau and then she began to further improve as the > healing was working deeper. I believe absolutely that cell salts is an > excellent therapy in addition to the HBOT. > > As far as looking for an HBOT center, unless you find one very close (less > than an hour drive), I would look for a place to stay near the center. If yo > u're doing 2 treatments a day, even if your'e close by, it takes up most of > your day. My daughter was very hungry (HBOT boosts the metabolism) so if we > weren't in the chamber I was feeding her. In between that time I was doing > exercizes with her. I found that it really consumed the entire day and if > you add driving into the mix, its really difficult. The 2 sessions must be 4 > hours apart each day if you're doing 2 in a day. If this means that you > should be away from home, I would look for a setting that is relaxing to you > because you will be working hard. Also, if you go into the chamber with your > child (I did), you may find this extremely fatiguing (in which case Dr. > Harch would tell you not to go in anymore!). I've used both a mono-chamber > and a multi chamber. The mono chamber sort of reminded me of a coffin and > there was not room to move around and my back began to hurt, but I could see > everything that was going on outside. The multi chamber requires a hood on > your child. Mine didn't like this, but was okay as long as we started her > movie right away. There was more room to move around, so this was more > comfortable, but I could not see out as well (only a tiny window in a bad > position) so this kind of bothered me. I was able to look at a book though, > instead of watching the same Disney movies over and over again. Good luck! > Ellen > > > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. _. > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy medicaid/files/ and HDO-documentation/files/ > > Download your state EPSDT program http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the word " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html > > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm > > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe to by sending a blank email to mailto:medicaid-subscribe > > Unsubscribe? 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Guest guest Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Wonderful news! Cell salts have helped others in my family as well. People who haven't seen my daughter in a while are amazed at how well she looks and how fluid her speech is, and how well she is moving. Ellen Re: [ ] > > > > Darien, I can't answer your question per se, as we did things in > reverse. > My > > daughter had HBOT 3 yrs ago (ran out of money, can't go back for a > while) > > and we saw tremendous improvement immediately. After having had 76 > > treatments, her frequency of sz reduced by 50%, as well as other > > improvements such as better eye tracking, improved memory, and no more > > Parkinson's-like syndrome. Now this past June she started cell salts, > also > > with Sutton and the improvements have been tremendous! Although > we > had > > tried many different therapies, nothing has helped in her healing like > HBOt > > and cell salts. For those who do not know, these Biochemic Cell Salts > were > > discovered by Wilhem Schuessler, a German homeopath from the 1800s. > These > > cell salts, are titurated in a homeopathic manner, so that the body > can > > readily absorb these microdoses of minerals. They must be taken over > time, > > and the longer the mineral deficiency, the longer it will take to > replenish. > > We saw some improvements within the first week or two of cell salts. > For > the > > first time in over 4 years, she is no longer afraid to go to sleep at > night. > > Before the cell salts, as soon as she would go to bed she would start > > " twitching " and if left alone would go into a tonic clonic seziure. As > a > > consequence, she was afraid to fall asleep (and sleep deprivation > leads to > > more seizures). It had gotten so bad that we strung a series of bells > on > her > > bed. Now she is sleeping restfully. She has also started growing > again. > For > > the past several years, she was not growing and went from 95% for > growth > > down to 5% for growth. In the past 6 months she started growing and is > now > > at 25% of others her age. After a few months on cell salts, we saw a > slight > > regression as she hit a plateau and then she began to further improve > as > the > > healing was working deeper. I believe absolutely that cell salts is an > > excellent therapy in addition to the HBOT. > > > > As far as looking for an HBOT center, unless you find one very close > (less > > than an hour drive), I would look for a place to stay near the center. > If > yo > > u're doing 2 treatments a day, even if your'e close by, it takes up > most > of > > your day. My daughter was very hungry (HBOT boosts the metabolism) so > if > we > > weren't in the chamber I was feeding her. In between that time I was > doing > > exercizes with her. I found that it really consumed the entire day and > if > > you add driving into the mix, its really difficult. The 2 sessions > must be > 4 > > hours apart each day if you're doing 2 in a day. If this means that > you > > should be away from home, I would look for a setting that is relaxing > to > you > > because you will be working hard. Also, if you go into the chamber > with > your > > child (I did), you may find this extremely fatiguing (in which case > Dr. > > Harch would tell you not to go in anymore!). I've used both a > mono-chamber > > and a multi chamber. The mono chamber sort of reminded me of a coffin > and > > there was not room to move around and my back began to hurt, but I > could > see > > everything that was going on outside. The multi chamber requires a > hood on > > your child. Mine didn't like this, but was okay as long as we started > her > > movie right away. There was more room to move around, so this was more > > comfortable, but I could not see out as well (only a tiny window in a > bad > > position) so this kind of bothered me. I was able to look at a book > though, > > instead of watching the same Disney movies over and over again. Good > luck! > > Ellen > > > > > > > > > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._. > _. > > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy > medicaid/files/ and > HDO-documentation/files/ > > > > Download your state EPSDT program > http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the > word > " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites > http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver > programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html > > > > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm > > > > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. > Subscribe to > by sending a blank email to > mailto:medicaid-subscribe > > > > Unsubscribe? Click here > mailto:medicaid-unsubscribe > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 " It is small and inexpensive and will tell you everything you need to know !!!!! " How come every time I read these words the book isn't available? Well I have it on order from Hastings Bookstore. They don't have it in stock so I'll think more on this subject when I've had a chance to read about it. Kathy, I liked what I read on the toothpaste site you gave us. Are you reccomending the whole site, or just the toothpaste? Rh- neg ** " You can't build anything without a lot of protein - especially as O and ns. (I'm Rh-neg as well so need even more protein). Add in some cell salts - and go flummox your dentist :-)) Namaste, Irene " Irene, can you tell me more about Rh-negative specifics? Thanks. in Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 I ordered mine last week from http://www.alibris.com. Here's the info from my order confirmation: Title: The Biochemic Handbook: How to Get Well and Keep Fit With Biochemic Tissue Salts. Author: Chapman J. B., L. Price: $ 2.95 S & H: $ 3.49 Total: USD $ 6.44 -Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Thank you, Robin. Re: Cell Salts I ordered mine last week from http://www.alibris.com. Here's the info from my order confirmation: Title: The Biochemic Handbook: How to Get Well and Keep Fit With Biochemic Tissue Salts. Author: Chapman J. B., L. Price: $ 2.95 S & H: $ 3.49 Total: USD $ 6.44 -Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 Check out www.1-800homeopathy.com kathy matthews <kathymatthews@...> wrote:You get the Cell salts from a health food store. GET THE BOOK !!! " THE BIOCHEMIC HANDBOOK " . It is small and inexpensive and will tell you everything you need to know !!!!! I'm sorry to sound pushy but this information is easily available and Irene has enough to take care of. And remember, with all homeopathic remedies. Don't touch any and then return them to the bottle. For best results, take them on an empty mouth - 15 to 30 minutes before and after most anything except water, especially strong flavors (garlic, toothpaste, etc...). Murray <salbud@...> wrote: I'd like to know mor about Cell salts and what and where to get them. Rh- neg ** " You can't build anything without a lot of protein - especially as O and ns. (I'm Rh-neg as well so need even more protein). Add in some cell salts - and go flummox your dentist :-)) Namaste, Irene " Irene, can you tell me more about Rh-negative specifics? Thanks. in Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Hi Fran,I am giving them a try myself, just started the combo yesterday, which is supposed to act as a 'tonic.' I was raised with homeopathy and even though I haven't had tons of success with it personally , I definitely believe in it. I've seen amazing results in non-chronic situations for myself and I keep looking for help for my chronic problems. But because we are all bombarded by so many toxins and at the same time deficient in everything, and have many inherited weaknesses, I think it is more difficult for the homeopathic remedies to work. Nonetheless, it is a wonderful form of healing that many people still benefit from. As far as the cell salts go specifically, they are very low dose and gentle remedies and therefore can be taken everyday. I would think they are a good and gentle way to encourage the body to be able to re-mineralize. And even better, it is always possible that one of the 12 happens to be a constitutional remedy for you or the simillimum for your illness and it would have dramatic results, if there aren't other layers in the way.Are you familiar with the general guidelines for taking homeopathic remedies? Marlena>> What do you, any of you, think of supplementation with cell salts?> > Fran> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Hi Marlena, I have the combination cell salts but I also have all of them individually. I have to take them in liquid form because I am allergic to casein and the little tablets are in a dairy base. I have not taken many other homeopathic remedies except for a few prescribed by my acupuncturist and some of them have gluten in them and I have celiac sprue. So I have to read all labels very carefully. Anything you can tell me will be appreciated. Fran Re: cell salts Hi Fran, I am giving them a try myself, just started the combo yesterday, which is supposed to act as a 'tonic.' I was raised with homeopathy and even though I haven't had tons of success with it personally , I definitely believe in it. I've seen amazing results in non-chronic situations for myself and I keep looking for help for my chronic problems. But because we are all bombarded by so many toxins and at the same time deficient in everything, and have many inherited weaknesses, I think it is more difficult for the homeopathic remedies to work. Nonetheless, it is a wonderful form of healing that many people still benefit from. As far as the cell salts go specifically, they are very low dose and gentle remedies and therefore can be taken everyday. I would think they are a good and gentle way to encourage the body to be able to re-mineralize. And even better, it is always possible that one of the 12 happens to be a constitutional remedy for you or the simillimum for your illness and it would have dramatic results, if there aren't other layers in the way. Are you familiar with the general guidelines for taking homeopathic remedies? Marlena >> What do you, any of you, think of supplementation with cell salts?> > Fran> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Perhaps you have already been given these instructions but I think it is important to not open the remedy bottle when there are strong fragrances in the air or on your body, and to make sure you have no taste in your mouth from food or toothpaste, etc. when you take it. You are also not supposed to store the remedy bottles in highly fragrant places or near strong electro-magnetic fields. Some homeopaths say Natrum muriaticum (remedy made from sodium chloride actually) is antidoted by strong mint so I would not use that right after taking it ... Eucalyptus, tea tree oil, and coffee are also considered general antidotes to homeopathy. But since one can take cell salts so often it is not as necessary to be ultra cautious with them!Also, just to let you know, I know someone who is highly allergic and can't repeat taking the alcohol based remedies orally - what she does is sniff a drop on her hand and it is just as effective that way! I hope we both see some good results!Marlena > >> > What do you, any of you, think of supplementation with cell salts?> > > > Fran> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 > > Hi Bee: What are your thoughts on homeopathic cell salts ? I've just been given a booklet on the subject but wanted to get your input . +++Hi Marjorie. I'm very familiar with cell salts, and even used them myself many years ago. They are not necessary on this program, obviously, since members of this group are getting healthy without them. I've also found that people who take too many different things or do too many treatments, other than those on this program, can overwhelm their bodies and not progress like they should. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 http://www.biochemic-cell-salts.com/92/naturopath-louise-edwards-shares-her-expe\ rience-on-cell-salts/ > > Want to share what a positive effect taking this has had on my energy and health will continue as a every day treatment. Cheap and effective my headaches have also quit even the MMS did not seem to help this. I bought the bio-plasma from Swanson vitamin. > http://www.biochemic-cell-salts.com/ > http://www.swansonvitamins.com/HY052/ItemDetail?n=4294967193+26+708 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Wish more would consider this with their treatment safe and very effective for the immune system. http://www.elixirs.com/cellsalts.cfm http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?doSearch=true & ntt= & n=0 & ntk=Level1 & keyword=\ \ bioplasma & doSearch.x=13 & doSearch.y=7 > > > > Want to share what a positive effect taking this has had on my energy and health will continue as a every day treatment. Cheap and effective my headaches have also quit even the MMS did not seem to help this. I bought the bio-plasma from Swanson vitamin. > > http://www.biochemic-cell-salts.com/ > > http://www.swansonvitamins.com/HY052/ItemDetail?n=4294967193+26+708 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Hi , Had to read some and get my ducks in a row. First, if there is a deficiency in the inorganic materials, cell salts will not supply enough to correct the deficiency. That must be supplied through food or supplements. Cell salts or biochemic remedies are prepared by trituration just as homeopathic remedies, but not at all the same. Homeopathic is based on " like cures like " . Not so with the cell salts. Cell salts restore the equilibrium of the molecular motion by furnishing a minimal dose of the same inorganic substance that is out of balance. They fill the gap in the chain of molecules of the affected cell. Healing then starts at a molecular level. When the ability of the cell to absorb or reject has been compromised by any irritation, it's ability must be restored by administering the proper salt in a diluted form so it will fill the gap in the molecular chain. When the gap is filled, the cell then again can absorb or reject as it must. Fill the gap, correct the cell, health is restored. If the wrong salt is given and there is no gap to be filled, the particle is so small, there's no harm done. The cell salt book has a table that shows the twelve cell salts are constituents of many of the well known and proved homeopathic remedies. Very interesting. As to Epsom Salts, had to drink a few doses of that as a child, never again, though I do use it for a good soak in the tub, but only when needed. Epsom salts is magnesium sulphate, not one of the cell salts. Ammonium chloride and ammonium phosphate are not prepared as cell salts. Nether is Dr. Pepper, but it's pretty good. I like ginger ale. Potash, lime, silica, iron, magnesium and sodium are the inorganic substances that are prepared as cell salts. Thanks for the cudos about the job, but not necessary, I like my job and have the good fortune of working for, with and around wonderful folks. Lots of smiles and a good joke now and then. My hands are busy and my head is free to think. Thinking is way underrated. No comment on the Monsanto scientists. It makes me want to swear like a logger on a rainy day. So much funding, so much knowledge, so much intelligence, so much destruction. Ah well, said I wouldn't comment. Thank's for your comments, you sent me on a quest to try to make clear what I had to say, every comment or question makes me learn something new. Hope you will study about the cell salts as I think you have the wrong idea about what they are and what they do. If I've made the information more muddled, I apologize, just read it, you'll probably understand it much better than I do. Good day, Suzann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have read about cell salts. sounds goods. probably was when it was practiced a long time ago all by itself. nowadays, IMHO, we all swallow other things, from multivitamins to prescription drugs, which are so much stronger that they necessarily must overpower the salts. " Gammill " <vgammill@...> wrote: > > Suzann, > > I did not realize that you were using such small doses. I do need a > deeper understanding of what are the seeming conflicts in homeopathy, isopathy, and cell salt strategies. Perhaps it would help if I understood the theoretical underpinnings. I do keep a file on meds that seem to work in ultra low doses and a file on hormetics. _____ > > From: suzann mcclain > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 > > Hi , > Had to read some and get my ducks in a row. > > First, if there is a deficiency in the inorganic materials, cell salts will not supply enough to correct the deficiency. That must be supplied through food or supplements. > > Cell salts or biochemic remedies are prepared by trituration just as > homeopathic remedies, but not at all the same. Homeopathic is based on " like cures like " . Not so with the cell salts. Cell salts restore the equilibrium of the molecular motion by furnishing a minimal dose of the same inorganic substance that is out of balance. > They fill the gap in the chain of molecules of the affected cell. Healing then starts at a molecular level. When the ability of the cell to absorb or reject has been compromised by any irritation, it's ability must be restored by administering the proper salt in a diluted form so it will fill the gap in the molecular chain. When the gap is filled, the cell then again can absorb or reject as it must. Fill the gap, correct the cell, health is restored. If the wrong salt is given and there is no gap to be filled, the particle is so > small, there's no harm done. > The cell salt book has a table that shows the twelve cell salts are > constituents of many of the well known and proved homeopathic remedies. Very interesting. > > As to Epsom Salts, had to drink a few doses of that as a child, never again, though I do use it for a good soak in the tub, but only when needed. Epsom salts is magnesium sulphate, not one of the cell salts. Ammonium chloride and ammonium phosphate are not prepared as cell salts. Nether is Dr. Pepper, but it's pretty good. I like ginger ale. Potash, lime, silica, iron, magnesium and sodium are the inorganic substances that are prepared as cell salts. > > Thanks for the cudos about the job, but not necessary, I like my job and have the good fortune of working for, with and around wonderful folks. Lots of smiles and a good joke now and then. My hands are busy and my head is free to think. Thinking is way underrated. > > No comment on the Monsanto scientists. It makes me want to swear like a logger on a rainy day. So much funding, so much knowledge, so much intelligence, so much destruction. Ah well, said I wouldn't comment. > > Thank's for your comments, you sent me on a quest to try to make clear what I had to say, every comment or question makes me learn something new. Hope you will study about the cell salts as I think you have the wrong idea about what they are and what they do. If I've made the information more muddled, I apologize, just read it, you'll probably understand it much better than I do. > > Good day, > Suzann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm a stage III colon cancer survivor of 11 years. The yearly tests that I use (for the first 5 years I tested 2x yearly) are CBC, Lipid Panel, Urine Analysis, Iron Panel, AFP, CEA and CA125. Also a baseline AMAS test was performed during the 4th month of the natural treatment and then performed 2x yearly for 3 years and 1x yearly for years 4-5 Tumor marker tests are more useful (in my opinion) if a baseline is established as quickly as possible - especially after surgery. Future tests can then be measured against the baseline. Be Well Dr.L -----Original Message----- hello. my mother has had surgery for colon cancer and now has a permanent colostomy and removal of rectum. would appreciate inputs from the group regarding what cancer marker tests should be done to know her state of health. regards and thanks again. sumeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I usually try to get the tumor marker tests done before surgery even though this is not the usual practice. I want to know whether the marker is a marker for the patient. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dr. Loretta Lanphier Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ ] cell salts I'm a stage III colon cancer survivor of 11 years. The yearly tests that I use (for the first 5 years I tested 2x yearly) are CBC, Lipid Panel, Urine Analysis, Iron Panel, AFP, CEA and CA125. Also a baseline AMAS test was performed during the 4th month of the natural treatment and then performed 2x yearly for 3 years and 1x yearly for years 4-5 Tumor marker tests are more useful (in my opinion) if a baseline is established as quickly as possible - especially after surgery. Future tests can then be measured against the baseline. Be Well Dr.L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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