Re: Fruit and sugar and cancer

[Guest guest]

In a way this makes sense -- the real issue is not the sugar you eat,

but rather the glucose and insulin levels in your blood. If you were

to eat 10 candy bars, but somehow they didn't get converted to

glucose in the blood, then the cancer wouldn't see them.

So -- maybe we should focus on glycemic indices.

BTW -- what is the glycemic indices of:

carrot juice

potatoes

[Guest guest]

The link below seems to be a good site.

From: <melissabuhmeyer@...>

Subject: [ ] Fruit and sugar and cancer

Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 11:35 AM

All this talk about not eating fruit, etc., when you have cancer got me thinking

which, as usual, resulted in some Googling. Here's an article I found that

made perfect sense to me ... cuz there are just too many good cancer fighters in

fruit (and, of course, I'm a Budwig person) to throw that fruit baby out with

the cancer bathwater:

http://tinyurl. com/4lo9jb

xxoo

[Guest guest]

,

That was a very good article. Thanks for posting it. I copied this

part to comment:

" If you eat sugar with some protein, some fat, or some fiber, your body

won’t produce as much insulin. Eating this other food helps your body

process sugar more slowly, and this means that your body does not

overproduce insulin. In short, protein, fat, and fiber help your body

process sugar in a more healthful way. "

This means that if I mix flaxseeds in with my ice cream, I'm all set.

Just joking...

But seriously, this is why I gave up juicing years ago.

ar

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:35:36 -0000, " " <melissabuhmeyer@...>

said:

> All this talk about not eating fruit, etc., when you have cancer got me

> thinking which, as usual, resulted in some Googling. Here's an

> article I found that made perfect sense to me ... cuz there are just too

> many good cancer fighters in fruit (and, of course, I'm a Budwig person)

> to throw that fruit baby out with the cancer bathwater:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/4lo9jb

>

> xxoo

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> This means that if I mix flaxseeds in with my ice cream, I'm all set.

> Just joking...

> But seriously, this is why I gave up juicing years ago.

>

Hey, now THERE'S a great idea!!!!! Flaxseed ice cream sundaes for everyone !

ROFL!

I do juice, IAW Budwig, but I don't do fruit juice. I juice veggies and add 1/4

of an apple for flavor. As for the required fruit juice ... well, I eat the

pineapple instead of juicing it, for

these same reasons. And I eat flaxseed in some hemp milk at the same time.

xxoo

[Guest guest]

Personally,

I've tried raw 100% fruitarian for 2 months.

Also 100% raw Wai Diet which is fruitarian + raw egg yolks and raw fish.

I live in the Philippines, a tropical country where fruits grow wild and

organic. Fruits that are exported or those we import are the ones to

watch out for. They are sprayed, irradiated, injected, non-organic,

etc, etc.

Plus I don't eat sweet fruits throughout the day. There are some sweet

fruits, some non sweet fruits, some fatty fruits. Fatty fruits are

coconuts, pili nuts, avocados and consume extra virgin olive oil for

more fats.

I teach people who use the fruitarian approach for some diseases to eat

as much of the fatty stuff above as that will satisfy their hunger.

Tools people can use against cancer are fruity tools:

Virgin Coconut Oil Detox and Orange Juice Fasting

wrote:

>

> All this talk about not eating fruit, etc., when you have cancer got

> me thinking which, as usual, resulted in some Googling. Here's an

> article I found that made perfect sense to me ... cuz there are just

> too many good cancer fighters in fruit (and, of course, I'm a Budwig

> person) to throw that fruit baby out with the cancer bathwater:

>

> http://tinyurl.com/4lo9jb <http://tinyurl.com/4lo9jb>

>

> xxoo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You got that logic right,

In the WAI diet which is fruitarian + egg yolks and raw fish.

They instruct you to eat your sweet fruit with extra virgin olive oil or

egg yolks or raw fish.

It works.

Edwin

Arlyn Grant wrote:

> ,

> That was a very good article. Thanks for posting it. I copied this

> part to comment:

> " If you eat sugar with some protein, some fat, or some fiber, your body won’t

produce as much insulin. Eating this other food helps your body process sugar

more slowly, and this means that your body does not

> overproduce insulin. In short, protein, fat, and fiber help your body process

sugar in a more healthful way. "

> This means that if I mix flaxseeds in with my ice cream, I'm all set. Just

joking...

> But seriously, this is why I gave up juicing years ago.

>

> " " said:

> > All this talk about not eating fruit, etc., when you have cancer got me

thinking which, as usual, resulted in some Googling. Here's an article I

found that made perfect sense to me ... cuz there are just too many good cancer

fighters in fruit (and, of course, I'm a Budwig person) to throw that fruit baby

out with the cancer bathwater:

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/4lo9jb <http://tinyurl.com/4lo9jb>

[Guest guest]

Glycemic INDEX of a food is the rise in blood sugar level divided by

the number of carbs in the food.

The glycemic LOAD is the glycemic index multiplied by the number of

carbs--thus it is the actual rise in blood sugar produced, which is

highly relevant, though the glycemic load of various foods varies from

person to person. And theoretically these are relevant only if the

food's eaten on an empty stomach. If many foods are eaten together,

the rise in blood sugar's determined primarily on the total number of

carbs.

Bottom line: Avoid eating large amounts of high-glycemic foods (e.g.,

dates, tropical fruit, white potatoes, fruit juice) on empty stomach,

and avoid eating a huge amount of carbs at a single meal, especially

if one has cancer, diabetes, or heart disease.

Edwin Casimero <eesc@...> wrote:

> Tools people can use against cancer are fruity tools:

> Virgin Coconut Oil Detox

Could you say more about this. I know coconut oil's very healthy and

therapeutic and is the best oil to cook in. Do you know of evidence of

its having any cancer-healing properties?

>and Orange Juice Fasting

Could you say more? I've never heard of this, and oranges have several

potential problems and thus as a general guideline I don't recommend

them (much less orange juice, which I think is harmful to cancer

patients because of its high glycemic load).

Re: IP6, it's somewhat effective, but there are so many supplements

that are more effective, I wouldn't bother w/it.

[Guest guest]

" jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@...> wrote:

> the real issue is not the sugar you eat,

> but rather the glucose and insulin levels in your blood.

Exactly.

> So -- maybe we should focus on glycemic indices.

to some degree, if the food's being eaten in substantial quantity on

empty stomach; see my recent post on the subject.

>what is the glycemic indices of:

> [white/red] potatoes

Very high. For this and other reasons, I would avoid them,

particularly on empty stomach.

> carrot juice

Medium (www.hacres.com/diet/research/carrot_juice_full.pdf).

The effects of carrots' retenoids are enhanced by the sugar, and

clinical experience has shown that carrot juice is highly effective in

healing cancer, particularly if taken on an empty stomach. If I had

cancer, I would juice up to 8oz 4 times a day, but never more than 8oz

at a time, and I would juice celery or greens along w/it to diminish

the glycemic response (and also juice an apple w/it for synergism).

[Guest guest]

VCO Detox description can be found here:

http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\

l-detox

Orange Juice Fasting can be found here:

http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/orange-juice-fast\

ing

Why these methods can help cure cancer can be found here:

http://www.curemanual.com/diseases-and-tweaks/cancer

Leonard wrote:

>

> Glycemic INDEX of a food is the rise in blood sugar level divided by

> the number of carbs in the food.

> The glycemic LOAD is the glycemic index multiplied by the number of

> carbs--thus it is the actual rise in blood sugar produced, which is

> highly relevant, though the glycemic load of various foods varies from

> person to person. And theoretically these are relevant only if the

> food's eaten on an empty stomach. If many foods are eaten together,

> the rise in blood sugar's determined primarily on the total number of

> carbs.

>

> Bottom line: Avoid eating large amounts of high-glycemic foods (e.g.,

> dates, tropical fruit, white potatoes, fruit juice) on empty stomach,

> and avoid eating a huge amount of carbs at a single meal, especially

> if one has cancer, diabetes, or heart disease.

>

> Edwin Casimero <eesc@...> wrote:

> > Tools people can use against cancer are fruity tools:

> > Virgin Coconut Oil Detox

>

> Could you say more about this. I know coconut oil's very healthy and

> therapeutic and is the best oil to cook in. Do you know of evidence of

> its having any cancer-healing properties?

>

> >and Orange Juice Fasting

> Could you say more? I've never heard of this, and oranges have several

> potential problems and thus as a general guideline I don't recommend

> them (much less orange juice, which I think is harmful to cancer

> patients because of its high glycemic load).

>

> Re: IP6, it's somewhat effective, but there are so many supplements

> that are more effective, I wouldn't bother w/it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If we eat our fruits and vegetables instead of juicing them, wont that be too

much load on our gut tract.

Thanks, Robyn

>Bottom line: Avoid eating large amounts of high-glycemic foods (e.g.,

> dates, tropical fruit, white potatoes, fruit juice) on empty stomach,

> and avoid eating a huge amount of carbs at a single meal, especially

> if one has cancer, diabetes, or heart disease.

[Guest guest]

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:35:15 -0700 (PDT), " robyn howell "

<robynehowell@...> said:

> If we eat our fruits and vegetables instead of juicing them, wont that be

> too much load on our gut tract.

> Thanks, Robyn

No, raw fruits and veggies are easy to digest and the fiber will clean

out your gut.

ar

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Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

[Guest guest]

Edwin Casimero <eesc@...> wrote:

> Orange Juice Fasting can be found here:

http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/orange-juice-fast\

ing

I'm doubtful that orange offers much advantages over other juices. If

doing a fruit-juice fast (which I wouldn't recommend), I'd choose

another fruit.

> Why these methods can help cure cancer can be found here:

> http://www.curemanual.com/diseases-and-tweaks/cancer

Thanks for the info. I didn't see anything about orange juice.