RE: Re: Camel milk for cancer

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No, I get camel milk from the Amish. I enjoy giving talks on cancer to

Amish communities and I've acquired a connection for a number of such

products.

It is quite interesting that milk from humans, from mares, and from camels

is used to treat cancer, while cow's milk is so often strongly discouraged.

Humans, mares, and camels are rarely bred for dairy purposes as the primary

goal. Cows have been bred for dairy production for thousands of years and

the goal has most often been quantity over quality. You can make an

educated guess as to the quality of the milk, percentage butterfat, the

quality of the cow's genes and the cow's general health by examining the

escutcheon (the milk shield).

Similarly, hyperkeratinization of human pubic hair can indicate the presence

of the breast cancer and also it seems of the BRCA-1 gene in woman who don't

yet have cancer. There are many such small observations that can be made

that I should probably include in a practicum, but I have been too busy.

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of greatyoga

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:00 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Camel milk for cancer

Do you get this from your local Oasis? ))

GB

>

> At the Center we have made arrangements to obtain unpasteurized camel

milk,

> etc. for program participants. It usually takes me a couple of years

before

> I begin to get some idea of efficacy. Similar claims have been made about

> human milk vs cancer.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

and list,

After reading about the swedish studies on mother's milk and cancer, I have used

it with a couple of patients with advance cancer (along with other things).

Unfortunately it did not reverse their cancer. That, in and of itself, does not

say much about the

anti-neoplastic merit of human milk. It is still possible that in less advanced

cases or in other people it would have helped.

There is an internet list here in Israel (where i live), of mothers who

contribute their breast milk to other mothers, who may not have enough for their

babies. This is where we got the milk. We also have available frozen camels'

milk in health food stores.

Gubi

RE: [ ] Re: Camel milk for cancer

No, I get camel milk from the Amish. I enjoy giving talks on cancer to

Amish communities and I've acquired a connection for a number of such

products.

It is quite interesting that milk from humans, from mares, and from camels

is used to treat cancer, while cow's milk is so often strongly discouraged.

Humans, mares, and camels are rarely bred for dairy purposes as the primary

goal. Cows have been bred for dairy production for thousands of years and

the goal has most often been quantity over quality. You can make an

educated guess as to the quality of the milk, percentage butterfat, the

quality of the cow's genes and the cow's general health by examining the

escutcheon (the milk shield).

Similarly, hyperkeratinization of human pubic hair can indicate the presence

of the breast cancer and also it seems of the BRCA-1 gene in woman who don't

yet have cancer. There are many such small observations that can be made

that I should probably include in a practicum, but I have been too busy.

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I use colostrum. It is the first milk a mother cow produces after giving birth.

This milk contains all the antibodies and protections from disease so a calf can

survive until the calf's immune system matures enough to function on its own .

I

get mine from New Zealand as they do not use chemicals, antibiotics,

pasteurization, or hormones. These protections are easily transferred to a

human. A product called Transfer Factor is sometimes used in alternative

medicine and there are claims of success. The claim is it increases NK cell

activity 43%. I have not used this product myself and can offer no

recommendation, but I know of others who have had good results in combination

with other immune system boosting and detoxing foods and products. It is

colostrum with a few additions to boost the immune system.  I do not know about

humans but with dogs it takes about a year for the immune system to fully mature

and be able to fight disease fully on its own. For this reason it is critical

for the pups to get the mothers milks for as long as they will take it. Many top

breeders will not separate the pup from the mother until the pup no longer wants

the mother's milk, around 10 to16 weeks. The pups immune system is working quite

well after 6 months but takes a year to fully develop. The buzz word among these

top natural breeders is " all health comes from the intestines. "   These same

top

breeders are quite aware of the importance of a balanced gut flora.  They are

also quite aware of parasites damaging the gut flora. The good thing with dogs

is the breeder can have several generations of dogs and compare them side by

side for health. This is not feasible with humans and the knowledge learned is

applied to themselves and shared with others. Future generations of dogs as

well.  People too.

Shirleys wellness cafe has a great deal of info about colostrum for both humans

and animals. Alternate doctors and vets alike contribute their expertise.   

 Transfer Factor

http://transferfactor-4-life.com/4lifetransferfactorplustri-factorformula.aspx

New Zealand colstrum

http://www.colostrum.gen.nz/

A good health food store should have the NZ colostrum

Shirleys Wellness Cafe.

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/index.html

Vic

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From: Gubi <gubisara@...>

Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 12:43:10 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Camel milk for cancer

 

and list,

After reading about the swedish studies on mother's milk and cancer, I have used

it with a couple of patients with advance cancer (along with other things).

Unfortunately it did not reverse their cancer. That, in and of itself, does not

say much about the

anti-neoplastic merit of human milk. It is still possible that in less advanced

cases or in other people it would have helped.

There is an internet list here in Israel (where i live), of mothers who

contribute their breast milk to other mothers, who may not have enough for their

babies. This is where we got the milk. We also have available frozen camels'

milk in health food stores.

Gubi

RE: [ ] Re: Camel milk for cancer

No, I get camel milk from the Amish. I enjoy giving talks on cancer to

Amish communities and I've acquired a connection for a number of such

products.

It is quite interesting that milk from humans, from mares, and from camels

is used to treat cancer, while cow's milk is so often strongly discouraged.

Humans, mares, and camels are rarely bred for dairy purposes as the primary

goal. Cows have been bred for dairy production for thousands of years and

the goal has most often been quantity over quality. You can make an

educated guess as to the quality of the milk, percentage butterfat, the

quality of the cow's genes and the cow's general health by examining the

escutcheon (the milk shield).

Similarly, hyperkeratinization of human pubic hair can indicate the presence

of the breast cancer and also it seems of the BRCA-1 gene in woman who don't

yet have cancer. There are many such small observations that can be made

that I should probably include in a practicum, but I have been too busy.

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[Guest guest]

Gives information on different kinds of milk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJR0LXU-7PQ & feature= & p=0E2B9FDCF4B4F026 & index=0 & p\

laynext=1

Nil

[ ] Re: Camel milk for cancer

I also belong to an Ayurvedic group online. Many Ayurvedic docs insist that

some Indian cows give milk that will heal many things. I asked them why

American cows can't and they say that it is a certain kind of cow. They also

said that the cow (I don't remember what type of cow) eats grass that has small

quantities of gold and that gives the body immune properties. I do not know but

this is their thinking. They also have a system separate from Ayurveda called

panchgavya. It is using certain cow products - milk, yogurt, ghee, urine and

dung. The urine is used in many healing formulas. I do have the panchgavya

urine and it is healing from my perspective.

GB

[Guest guest]

The Amish can provide me with camel milk (it can be frozen as it doesn't

separate), colostrum, and urine. I don't use colostrum as this was a big

fad in the alternative cancer world about 10 years ago, but then its use

quickly petered out. I think we can infer that its value in cancer is

limited.

The Amish tell me that it is an expensive proposition to collect urine

because of all the waiting involved. I offered to catheterize with an

indwelling catheter. I figured I would need one Amishman positioned to

restrain each leg and a fifth to hold it's mouth shut. I thought that this

would be much more entertaining then hobbling it or tying it's feet to

stakes. We decided against it for fear of infection in an animal that cost

$15,000. Amish are very practical.

I don't use camel urine as I need to see more defining research. I don't

know the relative merits of camels with one or two humps; male, female, or

pregnant; choices of fodder, time of day collecting, etc. Even if the

research is quite convincing I still don't think I could recommend it. The

whole notion is quite unsettling.

GB, I would not even consider your suggestion of dung consumption for health

purposes. In the US, milk " Does a body good!! " is advertised by the use of

pretty women with a milk mustache. Such marketing would never work for

dung, no matter how fresh the dung, no matter how pretty the woman.

As to camel milk I will try to determine historical cancer rates among North

African and Middle Eastern cultures that depended on it.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of greatyoga

Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:27 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Camel milk for cancer

I also belong to an Ayurvedic group online. Many Ayurvedic docs insist that

some Indian cows give milk that will heal many things. I asked them why

American cows can't and they say that it is a certain kind of cow. They also

said that the cow (I don't remember what type of cow) eats grass that has

small quantities of gold and that gives the body immune properties. I do not

know but this is their thinking. They also have a system separate from

Ayurveda called panchgavya. It is using certain cow products - milk, yogurt,

ghee, urine and dung. The urine is used in many healing formulas. I do have

the panchgavya urine and it is healing from my perspective.

GB

>

> No, I get camel milk from the Amish. I enjoy giving talks on cancer to

> Amish communities and I've acquired a connection for a number of such

> products.

>

>

>

> It is quite interesting that milk from humans, from mares, and from camels

> is used to treat cancer, while cow's milk is so often strongly

discouraged.

> Humans, mares, and camels are rarely bred for dairy purposes as the

primary

> goal. Cows have been bred for dairy production for thousands of years and

> the goal has most often been quantity over quality. You can make an

> educated guess as to the quality of the milk, percentage butterfat, the

> quality of the cow's genes and the cow's general health by examining the

> escutcheon (the milk shield).

>

>

>

> Similarly, hyperkeratinization of human pubic hair can indicate the

presence

> of the breast cancer and also it seems of the BRCA-1 gene in woman who

don't

> yet have cancer. There are many such small observations that can be made

> that I should probably include in a practicum, but I have been too busy.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

GB,

There are evolutionary reasons that many mammals eat things that most humans

find disgusting (dung, placentas, etc.). I find this extremely

uninteresting, but what does draw my attention is our reaction of disgust.

Feral human children - those who have been reared by wolves, monkeys, or

whatever - show no sense of disgust when they are reclaimed by civilized

(domesticated ?) humans. These poor children never quite walk right nor

talk right, and they are capable of putting anything in their mouths thus

showing no sense of disgust. Perhaps being a finicky eater is more than a

benchmark of civilization, it may in itself have evolutionary value.

Consider frogs: they will let themselves die of thirst rather than drink

heavy water (deuterium oxide) and true enough, it would kill them. For us

the heavy water is odorless and tasteless.

Heavy water does have some anticancer properties proclaims Ahmadinejad in

justifying Iran's nuclear program. This is true, but it also has toxic

properties similar to chemotherapy, and like many chemotherapies, it can

kill the user faster than the cancer.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of greatyoga

Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 2:08 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Camel milk for cancer

,

I know the dung does not even sound appetizing to me. I know this is one of

the parts of panchgavya but have not run across any real medicines made from

dung. I think it is just a use of the " byproduct " from cows such as for

fuel, etc. I will check to see exactly what role it plays.

GB