are cleanses painful

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I was sitting at lunch at a Christmas get together and I noticed a

man talking to me about gallbladder cleansing even though none showed

up on an ultrasound(gallstones). This man has some problem with

psychosomatic illnesses. But what he told me about the cleanse he did

with the epson salts and grapefruit juice was portrayed as extremely

painful and it would be best if you had some sort of pain or sleep

meds to sleep it off. How painful is a cleanse? Please be honest

here.This man did not find anything afer his cleanse so it seems as

though he went through a lot of suffering for nothing.

Janice

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##### level-1 quote by Janice <woodfamily@...> (on) 14.12.02

(at) 11:45 +0000

>I was sitting at lunch at a Christmas get together and I noticed a

>man talking to me about gallbladder cleansing even though none showed

>up on an ultrasound(gallstones). This man has some problem with

>psychosomatic illnesses. But what he told me about the cleanse he did

>with the epson salts and grapefruit juice was portrayed as extremely

>painful and it would be best if you had some sort of pain or sleep

>meds to sleep it off. How painful is a cleanse? Please be honest

>here.This man did not find anything afer his cleanse so it seems as

>though he went through a lot of suffering for nothing.

>Janice

There is a difference between pain and feeling ill or nauseated. The

recipe you describe is basically the Hulda one, and she says in

" The Cure for All Disease " that it is safe and never painful, but it

can make you feel ill if the kidney and parasite programme is not

followed first. I also doubt that anyone would not pass something

detrimental, even if not lumpy stones. recommends Ornithine to

help you sleep through the night when you do it. Others here may have

first-hand experience to share. I have only done the Relfe cleanse,

the one is coming in a week or so.

Ray

[Guest guest]

I have done the flush 3 times. I had NO pain but I did have nausea. If you take

orthine with the olive oil you will probably sleep most of the night. I was a

little weak too but no real pain.

Deena

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From: Janice

Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:52 AM

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Subject: are cleanses painful

I was sitting at lunch at a Christmas get together and I noticed a

man talking to me about gallbladder cleansing even though none showed

up on an ultrasound(gallstones). This man has some problem with

psychosomatic illnesses. But what he told me about the cleanse he did

with the epson salts and grapefruit juice was portrayed as extremely

painful and it would be best if you had some sort of pain or sleep

meds to sleep it off. How painful is a cleanse? Please be honest

here.This man did not find anything afer his cleanse so it seems as

though he went through a lot of suffering for nothing.

Janice

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I was sitting at lunch at a Christmas get together and I noticed a

man talking to me about gallbladder cleansing even though none showed

up on an ultrasound(gallstones). This man has some problem with

psychosomatic illnesses. But what he told me about the cleanse he did

with the epson salts and grapefruit juice was portrayed as extremely

painful and it would be best if you had some sort of pain or sleep

meds to sleep it off. How painful is a cleanse? Please be honest

here.This man did not find anything afer his cleanse so it seems as

though he went through a lot of suffering for nothing.

Janice

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Janice;

There are very few reports of the gallbladder flush being a painful process. It

may not be comfortable but that is a bit different from painful. I have a

picture posted at the online site's Files that shows some fairly large stones I

passed quite painlessly.

The person of whom you are speaking sounds to me like someone that just talks to

hear himself talk and will talk out his........well ask me and I'll tell you no

lie...........to show some sort of educated pretense.

As for myself, I've not had a gallbladder, or liver, attack for over three years

now. I do a flush a bit different than most do on this group. I found that

taking around three to four ounces of oil mixed with the same amount of

grapefruit, two to three hours before a colonic will get out a good number of

stones without waiting out the night. I have often had a stone or two show up in

the next day's BM after doing this process as well as seeing them flow by

towards the end of a session. It's not too hard to distinguish the stones from

the fecal matter because of the way it rides high in the view tube while fecal

matter will be suspended or roll along the bottom.

It sounds to me like you got the wrong input of which can have a strong

psychological effect regarding the doing of a flush. It can be compared to the

adage of being told something about a law of which doesn't exist yet people

believe it does because they want it to exist or simply haven't checked it out

to find whether it does in fact exist. Fear mongering is a great tactic for

getting people to do or not to do what someone else wants. You will simply have

to make decisions for yourself as to the effectiveness and ease of doing a liver

and gallbladder flush. From my side of the street it has proven to be a

gallbladder saver.

Dale

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12/14/2002 11:25:21 AM, " Dale " <Da_@...> wrote:

>There are very few reports of the

>gallbladder flush being a painful

>process.

How about none? You're having to answer that same old baloney put out by the

Surgeon's Relief Society whereby they try to scare people. Don't you get sick

and tired of it?

>You will simply have to make decisions

>for yourself as to the effectiveness

>and ease of doing a liver and gallbladder

>flush. From my side of the street it

>has proven to be a gallbladder saver.

Actually, a flush can be a lifesaver. I wonder why people are afraid of taking

an amount of fat that is about equal to what they stuffed in their gut at the

Thanksgiving table. All that happens during a flush is that the oil comes all

at once and triggers a congested gallbladder into burping out some garbage

stones. I'm constantly amazed at the people who will let some chopper slice up

their insides---with FULL KNOWN risk of death---and who yet quivver with fear

about drinking some oil.

Keep up your good work, Dale.

Regards,

Rex Harrill (who narrowly escaped from 3 surgeons with his inflamed gallbladder

intact almost 5 years ago---thanks, Hulda!)

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Janice,

I was scheduled for surgery to remove my gallbladder a few weeks ago

when I heard about a method to flush the gallstones out. I have not

seen this method on this discussion board so far but I experienced no

pain and no nausea. I drank 1 quart of apple juice per day with 90

drops of ortho-phosphoric acid (sometimes sold as " Phosfood " in

health food type pharmacies) added to it for 5 days. on the fifth

day, before going to bed and 3 hours after eating, I drank a mixture

of 1 cup extra virgin olive oil, the juice from 1 lemon, and 1 cup of

Coca Cola. I stirred the concoction thoroughly, drank half of it,

stirred again and drank the rest. I went to bed immediately and lay

on my right side with knees held to chest for 30 minutes. I felt no

nausea or pain during the night and passed many gallstones the next

morning.

Byron

> I was sitting at lunch at a Christmas get together and I noticed a

> man talking to me about gallbladder cleansing even though none

showed

> up on an ultrasound(gallstones). This man has some problem with

> psychosomatic illnesses. But what he told me about the cleanse he

did

> with the epson salts and grapefruit juice was portrayed as

extremely

> painful and it would be best if you had some sort of pain or sleep

> meds to sleep it off. How painful is a cleanse? Please be honest

> here.This man did not find anything afer his cleanse so it seems as

> though he went through a lot of suffering for nothing.

> Janice

[Guest guest]

Interesting idea with the coca-cola, I may give

that one a go...will add to the flavor. It does

have caffeine, however, so may keep me awake,

but I'm one of those ones that usually has nausea

as stones are passing, so don't sleep well anyway.

Sounds almost yummy, but maybe that's a

bit of a stretch :-)

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

http://nutritionist.tripod.com ~ Journey to Health & Auctions

http://www.mynsp.com/web/meydrech

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

> I was scheduled for surgery to remove my gallbladder a few weeks ago

> when I heard about a method to flush the gallstones out. I have not

> seen this method on this discussion board so far but I experienced no

> pain and no nausea. I drank 1 quart of apple juice per day with 90

> drops of ortho-phosphoric acid (sometimes sold as " Phosfood " in

> health food type pharmacies) added to it for 5 days. on the fifth

> day, before going to bed and 3 hours after eating, I drank a mixture

> of 1 cup extra virgin olive oil, the juice from 1 lemon, and 1 cup of

> Coca Cola. I stirred the concoction thoroughly, drank half of it,

> stirred again and drank the rest. I went to bed immediately and lay

> on my right side with knees held to chest for 30 minutes. I felt no

> nausea or pain during the night and passed many gallstones the next

> morning.

>

> Byron

[Guest guest]

Byron,

where did you hear about this cleanse? I am looking for a gallbladder cleanse

to do this week. Would you recommend this?

in CA

[Guest guest]

Byron,

would this be considered a liver cleanse also??

in CA

<< I experienced no

pain and no nausea. I drank 1 quart of apple juice per day with 90

drops of ortho-phosphoric acid (sometimes sold as " Phosfood " in

health food type pharmacies) added to it for 5 days. on the fifth

day, before going to bed and 3 hours after eating, I drank a mixture

of 1 cup extra virgin olive oil, the juice from 1 lemon, and 1 cup of

Coca Cola. I stirred the concoction thoroughly, drank half of it,

stirred again and drank the rest. I went to bed immediately and lay

on my right side with knees held to chest for 30 minutes. I felt no

nausea or pain during the night and passed many gallstones the next

morning.

Byron >>

[Guest guest]

How often should cleanses be done? Do you ever have to do more than one right

after another to make sure that your gallbladder and liver are totally clean?

in CA

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" Beckwith " <Beckwith87@e...> wrote:

> Byron,

> where did you hear about this cleanse? I am looking for a

gallbladder cleanse to do this week. Would you recommend this?

>

> in CA

[Guest guest]

--- In gallstones , " Dale " <Da_@e...>

wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I found that taking around three to four ounces of oil mixed with

the same amount of grapefruit, two to three hours before a colonic

will get out a good number of stones without waiting out the night.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi Dale,

Could you share what a colonic is and specifically what you use for a

colonic.

Thanks so much!

Naomi

[Guest guest]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

--- In gallstones , " Dale " <Da_@e...>

wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I found that taking around three to four ounces of oil mixed with

the same amount of grapefruit, two to three hours before a colonic

will get out a good number of stones without waiting out the night.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi Dale,

Could you share what a colonic is and specifically what you use for a

colonic.

Thanks so much!

Naomi

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Naomi;

After spending some time putting together information for you we had a brownout

and I lost all the information, just after havind done my spellcheck. So, I " m

going to just get you more links from which to gleam information and if there

are any more questions I'll answer them then.

Colonic;

http://www.sheilas.com/faq1.html

http://www.dotoloresearch.com/main.cfm

This link shows using a speculum that's used for colonics in a colema fashion

http://www.dotoloresearch.com/main.cfm

Colema;

http://enema-equipment.com/store-best-enema-equipment.shtml

http://colonhyd.best.vwh.net/index.htm

Enema;

This should get you plenty of extra links from which to gleam more information.

http://www.curezone.com/art/2.asp?C0=818 & C1=8

Dale